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Heroes Community > Library of Enlightenment > Thread: Worst/Best creature tier/level?
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DarkDXZ
DarkDXZ


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posted April 17, 2013 02:02 PM

Worst/Best creature tier/level?

We all talk about the best creatures of each tier, but let's take it from another side.

Which creature tier 1-7 offers the least useful units overall?

Level 1 - sure some units in that tier may be sub-par, but they're overall needed, and by a general rule are the most easily amassed units (see: Sprites, Skeletons)

Level 2 - my pick. Units in here aren't quite the easiest to get in large numbers and have somewhat bad abilities at times - yeah, ranged units, I know, but given there are such BS creatures like Zombies, Magogs (to an extent) or Lizardmen...Yeah.

Level 3 - second worst tier IN MY opinion. There might be a few decent units, but none of them are reliable enough to be a core part of any given army. (unless Castle, Fortress or Conflux)

Level 4 - far from bad, level 4 units have decent balance of stats, costs and growth to be viable (Vampire Lords just simply rock).

Level 5 - somewhat average. It might sound biased, since I don't really rely on lvl 5 units in my gameplay experience (mind you, not a lot of multiplayer apart from hot-seat). There are a few worthwhile units, though.

Level 6 - I have a bad tendency to underestimate this tier, especially when it comes to their stats (they're tougher than they look like), but the costs (and low growths) can kinda make them not worth it. (but then again, Necropolis)

Level 7 - at some point you're going to get them - as early as day 2 (Stronghold) or God knows when, you WILL need level 7 units. I kinda feel like I should write some more here, but I don't exactly know what.


This is just a one man's opinion, so feel free to hate it or agree with it.
Maybe your arguments will be more objective than mine.

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Nybbas
Nybbas

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posted June 13, 2013 07:55 PM

I would switch Level 2 and Level 6.

Level 2:

-Worst Creature by Tier BY FAR in the game : Zombie.

BUT this is balanced by:

-Best Creature by Tier BY FAR in the game: Air / Storm Elemental.

AE's and SE's are stronger than most Tier 3 and can even hold their own against some Tier 4.

Harpies, Gargoyles, and Wolf Raiders provide necessary scouting units to their respective towns. And Magogs, Archers, and Lizardman are all flawed but provide a ranging unit to towns lacking in that department. And don't even get me started on Dwarfs and BD's in a Mage vs. Mage early game fight.

Level 6:

Aside from D.Knights and Naga this tier is garbage.

Manti-Scorpies give Zombies a run for their money, Wyverns and Efreet Sultans can be effective but I've found always die the earliest in late game battles, Champions and War Unicorns are good but not as crucial to the town's performance as the scouters/archers aforementioned. Cyclops - I can't even. And M. Elementals, like all Flux units, are overpowered.

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Biobob
Biobob


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the Bobler
posted June 13, 2013 11:07 PM

In my opinion its Level 4 and 5.

Both Tiers only offer one decent unit (leaving magi and Pegasi out since they dont Change much in mp), the Tiers consist mostly of Slow asses with low numbers you cant work with. Level 2 is Very fine, I only say harpy hags.

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Buji
Buji


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posted June 14, 2013 02:46 PM

lvl 5 only one decent unit?
gorgons, minotaurs and to a lesser degree rocs and djinns
all very strong/important units

but other than that you are right, pretty much crap in tier 5

tier 4 is just a bunch of average units, nothing really good (except maybe for vampires) and nothing completely bad

I'll go for tier 2 too, nothing which shines out (some nice specials though like double strike, two shots or strike and return) and then there are zombies

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b0rsuk
b0rsuk


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posted June 15, 2013 10:06 AM

So, would you rather take level4 stack instead of level5 stack ? Can you give an example ?

Would you rather take level1 instead of level2 ? Skeletons don't count, they are a special case with a skill built around them.
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Drakon-Deus
Drakon-Deus


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posted June 15, 2013 05:01 PM

I'd take level 6 over the others.
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b0rsuk
b0rsuk


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posted June 15, 2013 05:54 PM

You mean level6 over level7 ? Because I'm not surprised you'd take level6 over level5 or level2.
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Drakon-Deus
Drakon-Deus


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posted June 16, 2013 05:50 AM
Edited by Drakon-Deus at 05:52, 16 Jun 2013.

Except level 7, they're much too powerful to refuse. But instead of all the other levels, yes.


As for worst, I don't really know, but I've never been a huge fan of most of the level 5 creatures, except Thunderbirds and Minos.  (I'm not taking demon farming into account)
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Anil
Anil


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posted May 12, 2016 12:38 AM

lvl 1

Best: Halberdier
Worst: Familiar

lvl 2

Best: Storm Ele
Worst: Zombe

lvl 3

Best: Ice Ele
Worst:Wraith

lvl 4

Best: Vampire Lord
Worst: Energy Ele.
lvl 5

Best: Mighty Gorgon
Worst: Magma Ele.

lvl 6

Best: Dread Knight
Worst: Wyvern Monarch

lvl 7

Best: Phoenix
Worst: Ghost Dragon
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The_green_drag
The_green_drag


Supreme Hero
posted May 12, 2016 01:37 AM

I'll fill in the rest later but lvl 5 units were always my favorites. Zealot is easily my favorite castle unit, genies rock, THUNDERBIRDS, mighty gorgons are awesome, Minotaur are boss, and the lich!

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TheThaumaturge
TheThaumaturge

Tavern Dweller
posted June 10, 2016 07:12 AM

In my opinion the worst level 1 creature is the pixie (not the sprite) because of how easily they are killed. In late game, they will be taken out instantly by pretty much any 6th or 7th level creature.

But the worst tier overall is 3rd, this does not go for the Elves in the Rampart town, those are quite good, but the rest are bad in my opinion, I always delay the 3rd creature creature dwellings in my town (except Rampart).
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batoonike
batoonike


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posted June 11, 2016 10:00 AM

Tier 3 looks bad but it has grand elves, beholders, dragon flies and ice elementals, which are useful. Tier 2 also get's excluded from the army often but it has marksmen, gogs and lizard warriors which are useful in the beginning. Also gargoyles and harpies and wolf raiders are crucial for scouts in the beginning. Tier 5 also looks kind of bad but pit lords and master genies and mighty gorgons and thunderbirds are amazing.

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zmudziak22
zmudziak22


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posted June 11, 2016 05:25 PM

Nah, Tier 6 is alright, yes both Dread Knight and Naga rocks on top, but Efreets with their Fire Immunity + Fire Shield are good to block shooters, Champions and Unicorns are both great in Offense and Defense, Cyclops can be used either as second shooter or help Bears in siege by destroying walls. Magic Elemental is Mini Black Dragon-Hydra Combo, No retallion, multi attack and immunity to spells is great.

Wyverns you can assable lots/horde on random, which helps a lot Fortress with getting powerstack.

Tier 4 - no doubt vampire lords rocks in their tier, next is Crusader.

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Anil
Anil


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posted June 18, 2016 06:22 PM

Lizard Warrior is most underrated creature in the game. This creature easily the 2.nd best lvl 2 creature.
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ebonheart
ebonheart


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Rush the rush
posted June 18, 2016 07:17 PM
Edited by ebonheart at 19:18, 18 Jun 2016.

Anil said:
Lizard Warrior is most underrated creature in the game. This creature easily the 2.nd best lvl 2 creature.

Yeah and Zombies are the 1st lv 2 creature. I mean they are so awesome! They are zombie like so they walk slowly like real zombies. They lost their brains so they do not think and so cannot hesitate to strike or feel remorse after. Oh and they are grey so they got camo on cursed ground. And arrows cannot kill them, only cut to the head can and that is hard to pull off! and they can spread diseases!!!
Last but not least they are extremely underrated because everyone on the HC forums thinks they are 99% useless!!!!!

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Salamandre
Salamandre


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posted June 18, 2016 08:27 PM

ebo goes frenzy.

Ebo, one advice for you, give up before you lose mind.
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LizardWarrior
LizardWarrior


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posted June 18, 2016 09:12 PM

ebonheart said:

Yeah and Zombies are the 1st lv 2 creature. I mean they are so awesome! They are zombie like so they walk slowly like real zombies. They lost their brains so they do not think and so cannot hesitate to strike or feel remorse after. Oh and they are grey so they got camo on cursed ground. And arrows cannot kill them, only cut to the head can and that is hard to pull off! and they can spread diseases!!!
Last but not least they are extremely underrated because everyone on the HC forums thinks they are 99% useless!!!!!


Lizard Warrior is the coolest lvl 10 creature
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Anil
Anil


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posted June 18, 2016 09:49 PM

Ok i understand. You don't know mathematic and the game.

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OhforfSake
OhforfSake


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posted June 18, 2016 09:57 PM

Look at his username.

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EnergyZ
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posted June 18, 2016 10:11 PM

Sarcasm is lost on this one.
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