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Heroes Community > Library of Enlightenment > Thread: HoMM 2 Price of Loyalty
Thread: HoMM 2 Price of Loyalty
Drakon-Deus
Drakon-Deus


Undefeatable Hero
Qapla'
posted May 03, 2013 11:33 AM
Edited by Drakon-Deus at 11:33, 03 May 2013.

HoMM 2 Price of Loyalty

I am currently playing the exapnsion campaigns, and they're not half bad, some scenarios better than the Roland & Archibald ones. Still a better story than Homm5/MM: H6

Currently on 2nd map of Descendents.
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DarkDXZ
DarkDXZ


Known Hero
Haiku sensei
posted May 03, 2013 06:06 PM
Edited by DarkDXZ at 18:13, 03 May 2013.

Not to sound cocky or anything, but the point of this thread is...?
Regardless, good luck. I haven't played the first two games, but I guess I should at some point.

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Drakon-Deus
Drakon-Deus


Undefeatable Hero
Qapla'
posted May 03, 2013 07:00 PM

The point?Discussion on HoMM 2 PoL, of course.

Right now I'm on the third scenario, the second was a little tricky but I didn't have any major issues.
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Drakon-Deus
Drakon-Deus


Undefeatable Hero
Qapla'
posted May 20, 2013 11:26 AM

Third was tricky as well, the solution was to build up a powerful magic hero.

Now I'm on the 4th.
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Eliteleader
Eliteleader


Adventuring Hero
posted May 28, 2013 04:00 AM

Quote:
Not to sound cocky or anything, but the point of this thread is...?
Regardless, good luck. I haven't played the first two games, but I guess I should at some point.


You definitely should!

Re-played the campaigns of both the original and the expansion about 6 months ago, it's pretty challenging and really fun in my opinion.
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b0rsuk
b0rsuk


Promising
Famous Hero
DooM prophet
posted May 28, 2013 01:32 PM

The first HOMM is simple, charming in a fun way. It makes you realize where did the stuff like "Bless overrides Curse" came from.

After playing Heroes I-II you realize Heroes III was by far the least innovative game in the serries. It added a lot of units and spells and repositioned some (many for the worse, like Mass Haste level 3 -> level 1, Mass Slow level 4 -> level 1). But it added few new systems.

Heroes II added mana (magic points), secondary skills, creature upgrades.
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Eliteleader
Eliteleader


Adventuring Hero
posted May 31, 2013 04:06 AM
Edited by Eliteleader at 04:07, 31 May 2013.

Personally I think I prefer II just a tiny bit over III, I just love the aesthetics and atmosphere so much, and I feel like the campaign structure was a bit easier to follow as well.

However I think you underestimate how many things were added or changed in III, major things like underground, element based magic specialty skills, random map generator, increased combat complexity(by adding "wait"), hero specialties, the new artifact system, being able to press "space" to revisit the dwelling/object your hero is standing on(no more getting stuck in 2-way monoliths because there's a pack of red dragons on the other side yay!)

And then smaller things like variety in the movement range of flying creatures, seer's hut quests, border guards, one-way monoliths, and a lot more things I can't think of off the top of my head right now

Either way, they are both amazing games obviously .
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Evaline
Evaline


Known Hero
posted May 31, 2013 07:00 AM

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However I think you underestimate how many things were added or changed in III, ..., increased combat complexity(by adding "wait")...

Incorrect. "Wait" was first implemented in HoMM II, not III. More info here.

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The_Polyglot
The_Polyglot


Promising
Supreme Hero
Nuttier than squirrel poo
posted May 31, 2013 07:06 AM

@EliteLeader: Border guards were implemented in PoL.

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Drakon-Deus
Drakon-Deus


Undefeatable Hero
Qapla'
posted May 31, 2013 07:33 AM

Since you have to modify the game to make it work, I don't think Wait was actually impelemented in H2.
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Evaline
Evaline


Known Hero
posted May 31, 2013 07:45 AM
Edited by Evaline at 18:43, 31 May 2013.

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Since you have to modify the game to make it work, I don't think Wait was actually impelemented in H2.

Incorrect again. Look carefully at the official HoMM II trailer with the beautiful Wait button: here.

Update: A quote from HoMM II: TSW original exe (Nov. 4 1996)
Quote:
{Wait} Have the current creature wait to take its turn until all the other creatures have gone.  The creature does not lose its turn.


P.S. I'm just reported the facts: "Wait" was first implemented in HoMM II. I've already brought enough evidence. The programmer can verify this
by yourself. I'm not going to persuade anyone else.

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Drakon-Deus
Drakon-Deus


Undefeatable Hero
Qapla'
posted May 31, 2013 03:34 PM

Ok, show me exactly how can I use the Wait button without modifying the exe and I'll agree.
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Eliteleader
Eliteleader


Adventuring Hero
posted May 31, 2013 05:55 PM

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@EliteLeader: Border guards were implemented in PoL.


Oh I'm sorry, didn't play PoL that much to be honest .

I personally prefer vanilla HoMM II.
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nnonn
nnonn

Tavern Dweller
posted August 04, 2013 05:22 PM

I saw this post and I thought it will be perfect for my question
It is a little bit off topic but ....
So I play the original campaign - with the Roland side.
I reached to mission 9 and for now i don't have a lot of problems.
When you complete mission 6 you have a chance to choose between 2 missions : 7.The Gauntlet or 8.The Crown
so I choose mission 7 and at the end of the battle i got like 40 champions , 70 Veteran pikemans , 50 master sword mans and 2 Genies. With this army I will start the final battle.
My other choice is mission 8 when the price is Ultimate Crown witch give 4 to all stats.

So i want some advice form some old school players, witch completed the game - What to choose???

Thank you

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MadHatter
MadHatter


Hired Hero
3d graphics and game programme
posted September 21, 2013 01:48 PM

I like Heroes II for its simplicity and for the corps that is more in character than can command.
Wish there have this thought in other parts of the heroes

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