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master_learn
master_learn


Legendary Hero
walking to the library
posted June 22, 2013 09:56 AM

Corribus,do you think you will get now mountains of HCMs or do you expect ammounts just slightly bigger than usual?
My question is related to the effectiveness of the new way.
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del_diablo
del_diablo


Legendary Hero
Manifest
posted June 23, 2013 02:52 AM
Edited by del_diablo at 02:56, 23 Jun 2013.

&Zenofex
Quote:
If an user repeatedly ignores the points made by someone else regarding that user's posts in a particular thread; or obviously twists the meaning of other user's posts just to fit his/her own line of thought; or repeatedly posts the same point which has already been discussed in the same thread and arguments have been provided against it but they have not received a response from the user who re-posts the same thing for the third, fourth, etc. time; or an user generally repeatedly fails............. *snipet*


More or less, I agree. I have already seems several forums fallen apart and spoiled to rot by mods not doing anything to fix this issue.


&Corribus:
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While I am a moderator, I do not view my role as being to force people to respond to your questions.  I cannot enforce "good debating techniques".  My role is to keep the discussion on topic and to ensure people are treated respecfully.  If you feel a person is failing to live up to your standard of debate, I encourage you (all) to exercise a sort of self regulation.  Which means - nobody is forcing you to discuss a topic with someone else.  If you feel that another poster is not addressing your arguments, or is not supplying satisfactory responses, or whatever, you have every right to ignore them.  Someone who is being constantly ignored, will likely either change their posting style or simply leave.


Opinion on repost bombing the person refusing to answer, by doing it as a collective?

Example:
Person 1
Quote:
Why A? I don't get it.

Offended
Quote:
Because you do not get it

Person 1
Quote:
Why A? I don't get it.

Person 2
Quote:
Why A? I don't get it.

Person 3
Quote:
Why A? I don't get it.

Offended:
Quote:
*posts fallancy to avoid answering*, *quotes persons 2 post and twists it*

Person 1
Quote:
Why A? I don't get it.

Person 2
Quote:
Why A? I don't get it.

Person 3
Quote:
Why A? I don't get it.

Person 4
Quote:
Why A? I don't get it.

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Corribus
Corribus

Hero of Order
The Abyss Staring Back at You
posted June 23, 2013 05:41 PM

@master
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Corribus,do you think you will get now mountains of HCMs or do you expect ammounts just slightly bigger than usual?
My question is related to the effectiveness of the new way.

I have no idea.  I think however you can agree that the old way of doing things was not particularly effective.  So, the new way cannot be much worse.

@mvass
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I can't think of a context in which such a comment should be tolerated. Even if it's not a one-line response and is part of a longer post, it should be edited out and the member should be at least given a warning. It's a clear insult in any context. To say something like "stop playing stupid" is completely disrespectful.

I'm not going to play "what if".  There's no sense to it.  I will be dealing with every alleged rule infraction on a case-by-case basis, and only after the infraction has occurred.  

If you see a rule infraction that you feel went unpunished, there is a mechanism now by which you may report it, and the Mod Squad will give it due consideration.

That said, I consider everyone to have a "clean slate" at the point the new guidelines were posted, so I will not issue warnings for alleged infractions that occurred before this time.
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Corribus
Corribus

Hero of Order
The Abyss Staring Back at You
posted June 24, 2013 01:33 PM

This is not a general feedback thread.  If you have complaints, please HCM them to a moderator.  Please stick to the allowed topic of discussion.
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Corribus
Corribus

Hero of Order
The Abyss Staring Back at You
posted June 27, 2013 04:02 AM

Public discussion on this topic is now closed.  If you have additional comments or suggestions on this topic, or any other topic, please HCM a moderator.

Thanks to everyone for your participation.
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Corribus
Corribus

Hero of Order
The Abyss Staring Back at You
posted March 07, 2015 08:37 PM
Edited by Corribus at 21:37, 13 Mar 2015.

Discussion Open: Saturday, March 7, 2015
Discussion will Close: Saturday, March 14, 2015

Current topic of discussion:

Thread of the Month

A few notes:

The OSM has an extensive history of excellent posts (and posters), and current active posters may be unaware of some of this history. For a while I've toyed with the idea of bringing some of these old threads or posts to life by highlighting them in a sort of "Thread of the Month" feature. However rather than just decreeing what this will entail, I thought I would invite other OSM posters to share any ideas they might have related to how this could work, or even if there is any interest in it. Some things to consider are:

Should threads or posts be highlighted?
How should they be highlighted, or nominated?
What criteria should guide what threads are chosen?
How old should a thread or post be before it can be nominated?
How frequently should posts or threads be features (i.e., should this be a "thread of the month", a "thread of the week", and "thread of the year", or what?

And so on.

Any thoughts on this are welcome. Please be aware of the rules of this thread, which are described in the thread's opening post. Because I wish this to be a brainstorming session, however, I'm relaxing the 1-post-per-day rule. Post as much as you want on this particular topic, provided it is constructive.
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OhforfSake
OhforfSake


Promising
Legendary Hero
Initiate
posted March 07, 2015 08:59 PM

Do I understand it correctly that the idea is that once a month any thread that hasn't already been part of "thread of the month" can potentially be highlighted? I.e. the thread itself doesn't necessarily have to have anything to do with the particular month it is highlighted?
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Corribus
Corribus

Hero of Order
The Abyss Staring Back at You
posted March 07, 2015 09:04 PM

Correct. The idea is to highlight old threads or posts that have high quality and may deserve another read, but which are lost amongst the many pages of threads in this forum.  Other than that, feel free to propose any ideas that you have.
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mvassilev
mvassilev


Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
HC SUPPORTER
posted March 07, 2015 09:22 PM
Edited by mvassilev at 21:22, 07 Mar 2015.

Thread of the Week sounds best, though it's more work for the mods.
As for how it should be chosen, I don't think we need too formal of a process - it'd be reasonable to have it work similarly to QP nominations: members message the mods with suggestions for Thread of the Month/Week, and the mod picks whichever got the most suggestions, or if there's a tie, whichever one he likes best. The thread should probably be beyond the second page (or, if it's a post, it shouldn't be on the last two pages of the thread, unless the thread is inactive), but I think that should be the only criterion.
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OhforfSake
OhforfSake


Promising
Legendary Hero
Initiate
posted March 07, 2015 09:50 PM

Quote:

1. Should threads or posts be highlighted?

2. How should they be highlighted, or nominated?

3. What criteria should guide what threads are chosen?

4. How old should a thread or post be before it can be nominated?

5. How frequently should posts or threads be features (i.e., should this be a "thread of the month", a "thread of the week", and "thread of the year", or what?



In regard to points 1, 2 and 5, how big of a work burden would it be if the suggested "thread of the week" was chosen under the circumstances an entire thread were to be highlighted? I may be a slow reader at HC, but imagine if we've 3 weeks in succession with 20+ pages long threads? I'd really dislike for such an interesting idea to become "sour" for those who've to do the hard work with such short time. But I am really not sure exactly how the highlighting process will be and perhaps it won't be a lot of work? I guess in that sense points 2 and 5 shouldn't be considered separately.
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artu
artu


Promising
Undefeatable Hero
My BS sensor is tingling again
posted March 07, 2015 09:54 PM

A monthly circulation seems more realistic to me or it will dry out and get old quite fast. I agree the process shouldnt be too formal and suggestions will do okay. Real old threads may stay unnoticed that way though, so some of you old guns will have to do some digging.
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Corribus
Corribus

Hero of Order
The Abyss Staring Back at You
posted March 07, 2015 10:11 PM

Would it be better to highlight threads or posts?
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artu
artu


Promising
Undefeatable Hero
My BS sensor is tingling again
posted March 07, 2015 10:17 PM

Mainly threads but in cases where a shinning post gets it going after page 6 etc, we can have exceptions. This can be a situational decision.
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OhforfSake
OhforfSake


Promising
Legendary Hero
Initiate
posted March 07, 2015 10:40 PM

If it won't be too much work, then I agree with artu in highlighting threads as the main objective would be preferred, with exceptions when deemed prudent.

Also perhaps "thread of the month" could be more in the general sense that any particular highlighting doesn't have to be within a certain time frame, but that's what it'll be in average? So sometimes it'll be more than a month, sometimes a little less, depending on work load and mood?
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markkur
markkur


Responsible
Legendary Hero
Once upon a time
posted March 08, 2015 05:48 PM

Corribus said:
Would it be better to highlight threads or posts?


My first thought is Posts only, since the QPs are often surrounded by jokes, stabs, etc. but it really then depends on purpose. For a debate, one post will likely not do, no matter how good.

I prefer something laid-back. Debates unfolded real-time and idk might not be as good to retrace much later; I'm not anyway, it's more a time and interest thing.


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Corribus
Corribus

Hero of Order
The Abyss Staring Back at You
posted March 13, 2015 09:38 PM

Any other thoughts on this before the week closes?

Another thing to consider is whether this should be an HC wide activity or restricted only to OSM.
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markkur
markkur


Responsible
Legendary Hero
Once upon a time
posted March 14, 2015 01:17 PM

Corribus said:
Another thing to consider is whether this should be an HC wide activity or restricted only to OSM.


Since not many venture "behind the chicken-wire" I'd broaden the scope and use themes.

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Corribus
Corribus

Hero of Order
The Abyss Staring Back at You
posted March 14, 2015 06:20 PM

Hi Markkur. Could you elaborate?
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mvassilev
mvassilev


Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
HC SUPPORTER
posted March 14, 2015 07:11 PM

Corribus said:
Would it be better to highlight threads or posts?
Both should be valid candidates. I think it'd be worthwhile to highlight some forgotten posts in 20+ page threads.
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markkur
markkur


Responsible
Legendary Hero
Once upon a time
posted March 14, 2015 10:34 PM

Corribus said:
Hi Markkur. Could you elaborate?


Nothing too elaborate, a few broad categories.  I just had a flash about  Gaming & Travels, Love & Relationships, Politics & Law, Art & Science...general life-stuff like that we all encounter at one time or another.

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