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artu
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posted November 05, 2017 05:22 PM
Edited by artu at 17:26, 05 Nov 2017.

JollyJoker said:
We don't KNOW nothing of that sort that we as a species will die as well as the solar system eventually. It's too much time until the end of the natural life cycle of this solar system to predict what will ACTUALLY happen. We may all die unspectacularly from some viral disaster, from a collision with a bigger object, from mutual nuclear or more sophisticated destruction, from a hickup in solar activity, from a visit of some superior alien race or any number of comparable events - or nothing of that sort may happen, and instead we find the way into space, to a longer life and eventually to a way to transcend this way of life.
Who knows?

I didnt mean that we know our species will die simultaneously with the solar sytem but not only we are a species aware of our individual death (I, Artu, will die someday) but similarly, we also know the solar system will someday vanish. So a man trying to do some work (art, charity, monument, etc.) with the intention to leave behind a legacy, and sending Beethoven or Chuck Berry to outer space are similar in motive.
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posted November 05, 2017 09:49 PM

artu said:

I didnt mean that we know our species will die simultaneously with the solar sytem but not only we are a species aware of our individual death (I, Artu, will die someday) but similarly, we also know the solar system will someday vanish. So a man trying to do some work (art, charity, monument, etc.) with the intention to leave behind a legacy, and sending Beethoven or Chuck Berry to outer space are similar in motive.
I disagree with that. You know that you will probably end your personal life one day in relation to the life spann of the planet in the not so far future, but the life span of the planet, the solar system or the universe is completely beyond the horizon of individual experience and utterly and completely meaningless. That some people pick stuff to send it to outer space is probably an act of vanity, but at best an act of defiance in the face of the vastness of the universe and the time spans involved in comparison with the insignificance and tininess of the individual and the human race as a whole.
The individual may hope that they might be remembered by the future generations of their race - sending Beethoven into space is just, well, meaningless.

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posted November 05, 2017 10:02 PM

We don't even know if they have ears.

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posted November 05, 2017 11:32 PM
Edited by artu at 23:56, 05 Nov 2017.

JollyJoker said:
artu said:

I didnt mean that we know our species will die simultaneously with the solar sytem but not only we are a species aware of our individual death (I, Artu, will die someday) but similarly, we also know the solar system will someday vanish. So a man trying to do some work (art, charity, monument, etc.) with the intention to leave behind a legacy, and sending Beethoven or Chuck Berry to outer space are similar in motive.
I disagree with that. You know that you will probably end your personal life one day in relation to the life spann of the planet in the not so far future, but the life span of the planet, the solar system or the universe is completely beyond the horizon of individual experience and utterly and completely meaningless. That some people pick stuff to send it to outer space is probably an act of vanity, but at best an act of defiance in the face of the vastness of the universe and the time spans involved in comparison with the insignificance and tininess of the individual and the human race as a whole.
The individual may hope that they might be remembered by the future generations of their race - sending Beethoven into space is just, well, meaningless.

If you pick the nihilist stance, anything is meaningless. However, although different in magnitude, a person trying to be remembered for a few hundred or thousand years and a species sending out Beethoven to outer space still have the same MOTIVE. The difference is quantitative. The prehistoric man who left the hand print on a cave and Beethoven are the same if our perspective is cosmic. But then again, when our perspective is cosmic, what distinguishes being remembered for 100 years or 100.000.000 years? It's all dust in the wind compared to infinity. Rather than vanity, I interpret that as a desperate reaction caused by our awareness of insignificance. It's a rebellion. A tiger is also insignificant but is not aware of it, we are, so we react, in order to not feel so helpless about it: This
Salamandre said:
We don't even know if they have ears.

We don't even know if they exist at all. Umberto Eco sums it up quite neat: All artists assume an audience, some just assume an ideal one, even if they know for a fact such audience doesn't exist in their daily reality.
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posted November 06, 2017 04:51 AM

Btw JJ, I told you Dylan knew about it:

Inside the museums, Infinity goes up on trial
Voices echo, "This is what salvation must be like after awhile"
But Mona Lisa must have had the highway blues
You can tell by the way she smiles
See the primitive wallflower freeze
When the jelly-faced women all sneeze
Hear the one with the mustache say, "Jeez
I can't find my knees"
Oh, jewels and binoculars hang from the head of the mule
But these visions of Johanna, they make it all seem so cruel

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posted November 06, 2017 08:27 AM

Well, I said, it's difiance at best, in the face of the insignificance  of us, individually and as a whole - but there is a difference between a person who creates something out of an artistic ability and desire and then is remembered due to the impression they made (and I doubt that this is what motivates an artist when they create), and someone who wants to be remembered, no matter what, killing a public person, for example, and some people sending a message into infinity, containing a chosen piece of music as an example of what we as a species can do.

You know, it*s like an internet dating profile, in which someone says, "I like Beethoven", but fails to mention that he's a bald, fat clerk mobbing his subordinates, evades taxes, and has a cocaine habit and 3 children from two prior marriages.

That's why I say it might just as well be simple vanity.

And all that aside, I still disagree with the choice (the reasons for which I explained above).

And Dylan, well, it would seem Dylan agrees with me.

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posted November 29, 2017 12:40 PM
Edited by artu at 12:41, 29 Nov 2017.

Habanera, Maria Callas or Agnes Baltsa

After comparing some versions, I decided I liked these two the best. Which do you prefer?
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posted December 28, 2017 11:52 AM

If you people like folk/pagan folk/medival music:

Faun - a German band which I recently discovered. Beautiful voices, climatic and catchy tunes, of course if you don't dislike german language (which some people find bad for singing ). They also make pretty damn good music videos:

Faun - Federkleid

Faun - Walpurgisnacht

I recommend their newest album - Midgard. Aside from "Federkleid", "Odin" (feat. Wardruna, the Norwegian band which I also recommend, they made music for History's Vikings TV series), "Alba II" and "Raven" are great pieces.

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posted December 30, 2017 12:30 AM
Edited by artu at 00:31, 30 Dec 2017.

Salamandre said:
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Such performances by child prodigies kind of deconstruct the Romantic myth, dont they? I mean, there is no way, a person at that age will go through the emotional depth of such a tune, yet, here she is imitating it perfectly with technical accuracy. It's like a ten year old memorizing, say, Henley's Invictus and reading it with flawless pronounciation and intonation. It's impossible for her to truly experience what the words speak about, yet the performance remains intact.
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posted December 30, 2017 12:42 AM
Edited by Salamandre at 00:47, 30 Dec 2017.

Biology, competence, hard work, genetics, yes there are many ways we barely explored or too shy to go deeper. I am usually skeptical at wonder-kids but sometimes you just have to admit there are things we don't understand yet. Then there was Kissin.

Thankfully.


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