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Salamandre
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posted August 28, 2018 11:25 PM
Edited by Salamandre at 01:08, 29 Aug 2018.

Technically it is very impressive, for that age, he knows the score like a mature conductor. But leading other people, inspiring and thrilling them when using gestures and eye contact requires more than technique, that's what I meant. Then I doubt this "something" can be realistically available at such young ages, yet we have Alma Deutcher, an amazing example of both spiritual and technical early achievement, but such complete geniuses are likely to reborn every 500 years.

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artu
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posted August 29, 2018 03:35 AM

Alma Deutcher: What's the point in making it uglier?

Is that "the point" or even the motivation though? They objected to Liszt the same way, you know the history. Not trying to justify relativism on an iditotic level but the premise of "idealizing ugliness since we're in modern times" is just shallow. She's a kid anyway, she has so many years to go deeper.
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posted August 29, 2018 05:29 AM

There is a saying: truth comes from children's mouth. I get your point but also there is such an strong push for specific and intolerant techniques, that is simply refreshing someone is still enough genuine to put it into very simple perspectives. Don't forget that Liszt, Wagner, Mahler, Stravinsky, Prokofiev and even Schoenberg and Berg at some level - to name some of the few considered as revolutionary, were perfectly able to express in any past language, both technically and structurally, they HAD every technique from before. This is where they choose to cut ties mainly because mastering techniques at such point allowed them to safely go farther and convey their message within unique layouts, but keep structures safe. This is no longer the case. Such composers spent a lot of time looking in the past to find what was working, what was good and what could serve them. Looking into the past nowadays is considered outdated, old-fashioned and moreover, unhealthy. This is very bad, especially when related to arts which are so long to master.

There is another girl on youtube, Nahre Sol, she has outstanding knowledge of classical techniques, which she will use to create her own music, at her own pace. I love this approach because it gives solid results. Compare a piece of her own, great dynamics, rhythm and structure, or THIS one working with modern sonorities, with the CRAP and CRAP bis our conservatories produce today. You don't need much study and work to write such things, as there is no judging criteria. As simple as that. Do you know that state culture departments are imposing contemporary (1995 - present) music as 1/5 of the season programming for philharmonics and universities? Modern music has lost its straightforward ability to reach people's hearts and souls, they now have to impose it otherwise no one is going to listen. So I am not surprised when a talented and uninhibited kid describes it as ugly, because most of it IS ugly.
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posted August 29, 2018 07:47 AM

CRAP bis

This is like 40 seconds, nothing sufficient enough to comment on but that 40 seconds didn't sound like crap, it's tense. I mean, it sounds like a promising intro, or is it just the whole work?
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Salamandre
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posted August 29, 2018 08:29 AM

Whole work here

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posted August 29, 2018 09:18 AM

Hmmm, yes, itís more like background sound for a horror film rather than an actual composition. It was a good 40 seconds they picked though.
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posted August 29, 2018 09:26 AM

And if feel melancholic today, this will heal your sorrow

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posted August 29, 2018 03:45 PM

Salamandre said:
Technically it is very impressive, for that age, he knows the score like a mature conductor. But leading other people, inspiring and thrilling them when using gestures and eye contact requires more than technique, that's what I meant. Then I doubt this "something" can be realistically available at such young ages, yet we have Alma Deutcher, an amazing example of both spiritual and technical early achievement, but such complete geniuses are likely to reborn every 500 years.

Truly extraordinary. Seeing the innocent child yet inside her was very refreshing.

Yet, I must add: my wife and I both came away with a cautious feeling towards her and her sister. (can't explain it)

Then, seeing that old man m/l analyzing her? made us both feel kinda creepy. We do have parental reasons for being naturally cautious with children no matter what child but in this case, we are too far distant to have any reasonable objection.  

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Salamandre
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posted August 29, 2018 05:19 PM

Well, she is at a critical moment of her life, as in 3-4 years there will be thousand of youngsters of same age which can equally play and compose as well. So she is clearly now going both carpe diem and carpe noctem, however we will be soon fixed on her fate. It's silly to see such lovely and young girls becoming the attraction center of creepy scholars, but thats also part of the game.

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posted August 29, 2018 06:36 PM
Edited by markkur at 18:39, 29 Aug 2018.

Salamandre said:
Well, she is at a critical moment of her life, as in 3-4 years there will be thousand of youngsters of same age which can equally play and compose as well. So she is clearly now going both carpe diem and carpe noctem, however we will be soon fixed on her fate. It's silly to see such lovely and young girls becoming the attraction center of creepy scholars, but thats also part of the game.

Agree with you.

Our caution of course is not founded on anything tangible but we are aware of the sweeping changes that are the "selfie culture" and I suppose we may both simply be concerned about the natural attention she merits, and on to a great many things behind the scenes that we cannot understand at great distance.

I probably should not have replied further really, because I am doing nothing here but "thinking out loud."

If I try to give form to our Caution, I suppose it should run like this:
1. It has been said that Genius often wrestles with strong personality disorders. i.e. Churchill possessed a brilliant mind (setting aside what he pursued)but he fought the "Black Dog" all his life and medicated himself with drink.

So, now looking at the difficult and often complex life many "Masters" led, iirc, sometimes to ruin in some form or another? Caution needed? IDK

My own experience with a "gifted" young 13-year old boy was something similar that got way out of hand. This kid was set-apart and even though many of we, his team-mates liked the guy, he was in a league of his own. He was a baseball pitcher, that at 13 years of age, threw an 88mph fastball and already had a working curveball. We played only 7 innings in our league (13 & 14 year olds) and when he pitched he was almost never hit by our team (in batting practice) or other teams in games. He could normally strike out 19 of 21 batters because if any kid got the bat on the ball, it seldom was more than a pop-up.

When his dad showed up, he would grill that incredible Star about any little thing he did wrong. None us understood that father and fled whenever he came around. His son...always remained silent.

Years later I looked for his name to surface in the major leagues, because there were many professional pitchers that could not throw as fast as Rex did at 13. He never surfaced to make millions and I can only guess what happened.

Now his story is different than this music-star; I simply hope all of this attention is something that she properly masters once she is a mature adult.

I'm sure you know about Parents living their dreams through their children; I suppose after we watched her parents actions in parts of the documentary and their explanations...that could be the Caution also. Again, just a view from the cheap-seats and I wish her AND "her younger sister" happiness and success.

Cheers mate

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