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mvassilev
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posted August 04, 2013 05:54 AM |
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Suppose you have a coin. You flip it 1000 times and it lands on heads each. What do you expect the result will be on the 1001st flip? If you've flipped it a thousand times and it always gave the same result, you can expect that it's not a fair coin, because you update based on the evidence. You will expect it to land on heads, and you don't have any choice but to believe that, assuming your anticipated experiences are based on your prior experiences.
Or suppose you're a Christian who believes that everything in the Bible is literally true. You can't just decide to discard those beliefs - something has to change, such as you encountering evidence against it, or you reasoning about it and discovering some flaw, etc. You can't just snap your fingers and believe something different.
If you saw me right now, you would see that I'm wearing a green shirt. If you stared at me for an hour, focusing on my shirt color, you would remember that I'm wearing a green shirt even if you closed your eyes. Could you spontaneously decide to believe that I'm wearing a red shirt? I don't think so.
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artu
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posted August 04, 2013 06:04 AM |
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What you're saying is.. like.. you can't believe a dog is a duck. Why should I? And I still don't get your point, of course you CAN decide to disregard your beliefs. But you wont if there is no reason to. Just because something is the way it is, that doesn't mean it's inclined to be that way.
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mvassilev
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posted August 04, 2013 06:05 AM |
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What you're saying is.. like.. you can't believe a dog is a duck. Why should I?
That's an entirely separate question.Quote:
of course you CAN decide to disregard your beliefs
Give me an example.
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posted August 04, 2013 06:12 AM |
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Anytime we change our mind, we disregard our previous beliefs.
I used to think you were logical and now I don't
What I don't understand is, you talk like it should happen without a reason, and since it (surely) does not happen without a reason, it then turns into destiny???
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mvassilev
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posted August 04, 2013 06:17 AM |
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Anytime we change our mind, we disregard our previous beliefs.
Sure, but I didn't think we were talking about something like this. Also, you can't choose to change your mind, you either do or you don't, and in either case, you don't have any choice.
I'm saying it doesn't happen without a reason, something has to cause it - something other than simply thinking "I believe X. I believe X. I want to believe Y instead. I believe Y."
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posted August 04, 2013 06:27 AM |
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you can't choose to change your mind, you either do or you don't
I define changing the mind part itself as choosing. If that is not choosing, what is?
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mvassilev
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posted August 04, 2013 06:31 AM |
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It's not choosing because there's no element of choice involved. Choosing would be like "I can wear a green shirt or a red shirt today", but you can't make those kinds of choices with beliefs, you can't say "I can believe in God or not believe in God today". If something is convincing enough to change your mind, and you encounter it, you will change your mind, and you don't have any choice in the matter.
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posted August 04, 2013 06:43 AM |
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You use the word choose as selecting, I use it as deciding. Deciding things is to make choices.
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mvassilev
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posted August 04, 2013 06:58 AM |
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There's no decision involved. You don't choose to believe something any more than you can choose to wake up if someone is throwing water in your face.
Not that this has much to do with tattoos, of course.
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posted August 04, 2013 07:04 AM |
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That's like saying you dont choose to choose. It's a linguistic dilemma rather than practical if you ask me.
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baklava
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posted August 20, 2013 12:17 PM |
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I had this idea for a tattoo.
It'd go on my biceps and it'd be an illustration of me, flexing my biceps, with a tattooed me, flexing my biceps, on the biceps, so that when I flex my biceps, you can see the tattoo of me, flexing my biceps, with a tattoo of me flexing my biceps on the biceps of me that's flexing my biceps. Above it all, there'd be the word "biception" written in large letters.
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posted August 20, 2013 03:56 PM |
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have it done, then post pics. that should be funny, like the guy from jackass who got a tattoo of his own face on his chest(or was it his back?).
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