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fred79
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posted July 26, 2013 11:24 AM |
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i'm not saying i wasn't amused by what you were posting, it was funny, gunfred. don't think i didn't appreciate it, it's just that i want this thread to be taken a little more serious. i don't want it to be jettisoned into the vw.
honestly, i was laughing out loud at what you were saying, gunfred, even if it was meant to be a poke at me. as long as it is funny, i couldn't care less how much fun you make of me. 
but, back on topic. has anyone else experienced anything that cannot be rationally explained? and, for all of those who have shared already, thanks. 
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markkur
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Once upon a time
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posted July 26, 2013 02:29 PM |
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I'll share one other incident that happened once in my life and it is more related to your experience than an unusual sound.
I've had many dreams while sleeping in my life but there was one that was truly amazing and unlike any other. While all others have been some varying mixture of emotion, experience, reality and nonsense, I've only had one that was perfectly constructed. It was no jumble of various thoughts stitched together; instead, it was a well-crafted movie designed for a specific purpose.
Everything in my life was going very well with the exception of a bad relationship with my father; we had been at war for too long a time and I was done with him and his belittling tirades. He had always been a dominating tyrant but his latest eruptions were the worst and his hateful venom had finally left me just like him...cold as Ice. He had disowned me so I disowned him and for once, I didn't care, there was nothing left between us to lose.
One evening I had had a telephone conversation explaining the recent events to my youngest brother. After I retold how I had been treated, he was angrier than I was about what had happened, because he was fresh from witnessing a very recent cruel-episode that I had not known about, involving our father blasting our middle brother. We were all sick of it and he would get what he deserved from us...nothing. Then the dream-thing happened.
I found myself standing in a glowing golden light. I felt perfectly warm on the outside and sweetly serene on the inside. It seemed I was in a room but there were no walls that I could make out in the light. I did not hear a voice but I knew to look out of "the window". As I said there were no walls so I had not seen any windows either but then a black hole opened inside the light and I knew to walk over and look through this spot.
The next part is hard to explain but it was like my eyes were one very powerful telescope and the magnifications and targets changed as each view zoomed-in further. First I saw the Earth, then North-America, then my local "4 state-region" then Missouri, then KC, then my neighborhood, then my house, then my living-room, then a baby lying on the floor...it was crying.
At that moment a movie began and I saw a baby born and watched the baby grow and become a small child, then a teen-ager and then on to be a man. This movie was amazing, because at each stage I was watching all sorts of heart-breaking events that came from all sorts of people that kept happening to this person as they grew from that little baby to sad adult; even though...it was still a baby.
I was crying at the end of this flick and I keep thinking let me hold the baby! Those cruel people!, give me the dang baby!; I'm not going to let anything happen to this baby!. It was only then that "I was informed" that the baby's life I had just watched... was my father;s.
I was never the same person after this powerful-dream and I was never the same towards people either. Long-story...short, I had tremendous acceptance of people as they were and from that time on I had an incredible amount of patience with dad as he aged and became even more difficult.
My brothers and I united in this understanding and even though as time passed we would still hurt from things from time to time, our bonds as father, sons and brothers became better and better over the years. By the end of his life our father laughed a whole lot more and he finally learned how to tell each of his sons that he loved us.
The truth is, I did not get what my heart wanted from him, he could not be that, but I know I did get the best he could give. This somewhat happy ending all began when that one unusual dream completely reversed my steps.
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fred79
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posted July 26, 2013 02:44 PM |
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thanks for that story, markkur. it is awesome that you were able to patch things up with your dad, when presented with a new perspective. my dad was a piece of **** growing up, but i have heard that he was the source of his ***holish-qualities, so i can't forgive him for what he has done. but i put it behind me anyway, and have some sort of relationship with him now. i could tell you, markkur, some horrible **** that i had to deal with from him, and you might be able to relate to, at least from your past.
again, thanks for your contribution.
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Drakon-Deus
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Qapla'
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posted July 26, 2013 10:00 PM |
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Bro, check out my story:
For 19 years, no girl wanted to go out with moi, only one who did it to make her bf jealous, so it don't count.
And now, a hot foxy 24-year old says she wants me and hopes for something serious.
How can you explain this? I can't.
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Horses don't die on a dog's wish.
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fred79
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posted July 27, 2013 07:56 AM |
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dd, don't get your hopes up. if something goes wrong, you will crash farther then where you were before.
just keep breathing, take it easy, and go with it. don't let your hopes destroy you, only enjoy the moments that come.
and, keep in mind, dd, that this isn't unexplainable. a female digging you is natural, there is a female type for every male type, somewhere out there. i have yet to find mine, yet. not that i'm really looking, i've just been enjoying the moments, moment by moment. it's much easier, as i am a lot more lazy than you, i suspect.
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Elvin
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Endless Revival
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posted August 03, 2013 11:00 PM |
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My father once escaped a near death accident, having seen it unfold in a dream before he set off on a trip. As he was on his way he passed through the place he had seen and things happened the same way, giving him time to react.
Now, I do not believe in destiny but I do believe in synchronicity. Everything we do, feel and think, has its way of reflecting on our environment and the people we meet so in a way we kind of push towards a certain direction, even if we cannot tell exactly where.
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Ghost
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Therefore I am
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posted August 04, 2013 12:10 AM |
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Ok I can't tell all so short version was one blind and old woman worker came my home with "father" (the God?). I said no! So thing was ok. I said get her visio back. "father" said can't, no yet. Next day in job place. Blind woman said "ok" me.
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Celfious
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From earth
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posted August 04, 2013 01:08 AM |
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there are many unexplained phenomenons. Regardless whatever skeptics will even think - things levitate without scientific explanation, and there is a wide variety of occurrences that we humans would classify under whatever sort of extrasensory, 6th sense, etc.
ON a serious note I can't relate to being able to predict things in any sense that I am aware of.
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fred79
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posted August 26, 2016 02:29 AM |
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i was going to post this in the random thread, but i felt it needed to be put here instead, for posterity. in case i go missing or turn up dead or something.
experienced something spooky while driving last night.
so i'm coming over this bridge, headed down it, and ahead, on the side of the road, i see what looks like the black silhouette of a child; just standing there on the sidewalk. now, this is way past bedtime for kids, so already, something isn't right. standing there unmoving on the side of the road, a squat little midget of a kid, in the dead of night.
but as i get closer, i see that it is a girl in shorts and a plaid shirt, squatting alongside the road, on a sidewalk. squatting, like she's one of those people in india, just taking a dump on the sidewalk. only thing is, she's wearing shorts with tight hems, so that nothing would be able to trickle out anyway. regardless, after the headlights hit her, she stands up; like she was waiting for someone, or just got interrupted while attempting to snow her pants in the middle of the night on a public sidewalk alongside a high-traffic road.
so, she stands up when my headlights hit her, and what looked like a kid, is now a young woman standing alongside the road, facing the opposite direction. her hair obscured her face as i drove by(i didn't see it at all), it was straight and slightly wet for some reason.
now, the part that weirded me out the most:
as i drove by her, she made this sound. it sounded like a cross between a scream and a whisper. like, a whisper that was loud as all hell? the only thing i can liken that sound to, is when the ghosts or whatever in jump-scare movies shriek when the person turns around and finds themself face-to-face with the creature/ghost.
now, tie all that together, and the fact that when i looked back and the girl was suddenly gone...
i tell you, i kept expecting her to suddenly appear in the passenger seat of the vehicle i was driving. like she was straight out of one of those stories of spirits that people pick up alongside the road, mistaking for hitchhikers; and the person who picked them up is never heard from again. like, urban-legend type snow.
my nerves are fine now, but last night it took me a while to get rid of the feeling that that gave me.
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Celfious
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From earth
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posted August 26, 2016 03:43 AM |
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Hmmm alien, ghost, or skeezer.
or a demon
Or maybe it's bat country
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fred79
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posted August 26, 2016 07:29 AM |
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lol, it wasn't bat country, i assure you. the only mind-altering substances i've had in the past year or so are caffeine and alcohol. mostly caffeine.
it's just strange to me, that the experience unfolded the way it did. it seemed like it was right out of a paranormal movie or something. for all i know, it IS part of some movie, somewhere.
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Elvin
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posted August 26, 2016 07:57 AM |
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You missed your chance to go ask her in person Well, I've personally experienced auditory hallucinations if rarely so who knows, it's possible.
So your lights hit her and she changed her facing direction or could you not see her face from the beginning? As for originally perceiving her like a girl, it was dark and she was squatting. It's not hard for your eyes to deceive you in the dark, especially if she had a petite bodytype. Unless her bodytype changed under your headlights ^^
That cross between a scream and a whisper.. I once made a sound like that in a dream. I remember I was feeling intimidated and it came out as an animalistic reaction, sounding equal parts horrifying and horrified.
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Minion
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posted August 26, 2016 01:28 PM |
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I've also experienced an auditory hallucination, and the only way to describe it is saying it was both a shout/scream and a whisper (of my name) at the same time. It was super freaky, I couldn't go to sleep for several hours after that. 
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PandaTar
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posted August 26, 2016 04:57 PM |
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I had also some 'on the mark' dreams.
But what I gather from what you said is that you might be a person who have 'normal' dreams more often than not.
I'm constantly have bizarre dreams in many levels, featuring 'impossible' things. Of course, if I sit down and try to wriggle meaning from there, I could fit here and there.
I believe that, the more you dream 'normal' things, the more bound you are to have them reproduce in real life, and it's all about the range of people you know. The more people you know, the higher is the possibility that your dreams will, one day or another, fit.
I am not saying that any unknown force might not be acting amongst us all either, for I think we are limited in our perception of the world, but I think it goes a bit more simple than we anticipate, and also depending on our interpretation. The dreams that came to be true, not in their plenty, but expressively, represented very strong and important moments. But even now I was never sure that it simply went because I 'felt it', or because after experiencing that I had what artu said: a deja vú feeling.
Either way, it's not important. It's not like we can prevent things from happening, because we only know that they happened after they happened. Dreams might as well be only dreams.
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GlaDOS – Portal 2
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fred79
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posted August 26, 2016 06:13 PM |
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the more i think about it, and the more people i talk to about it in real life, i think that almost(if not all) everyone has precognitive dreams. i think it's part of our makeup, and most people simply don't remember that they dreamt the event that happens irl(and just chalk it up to "deja vu").
i reason it like this: if people have what they experience as deja vu constantly, who's to say that they just don't remember having the dream?
maybe it's something that the powers that run things want kept a secret? because maybe, if the ability were scrutinized, studied, and honed, it could be used in a more proactive way. who's to say that there are people out there who have honed their ability, either as part of the powers that be or not, and are directing certain countries or entities towards profit?
i mean, you can speculate until the cows come home, but the simple fact remains: precognitive dreams are real. and because it is, then that raises some serious questions about our existence.
more than once, i've felt like either i or the people around me were being directed in a certain way. how things tend to fall together? almost like people or events were orchestrated. the questions and feelings that arise from this predestined knowledge is... very curious. it leaves me wondering about the validity of a LOT of things that humans take for granted. it leaves me wondering if any of our lives are truly free and genuine. but only because i haven't tried(nor know how to) refine the ability.
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Maurice
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Part of the furniture
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posted August 26, 2016 07:23 PM |
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Neural brain activity examinations seems to point out that deja-vu feelings might also be caused by the brain working multi-threaded, where one thread is overtaking the other. One such thread activates as you experience things, causing your brain to store that information for future use. Another thread retrieves that information to compare it with events as you experience them. In the case of deja-vu, so they explain, the thread that stores the experience overtakes the thread that recalls a previous experience and thereby the calling stack turns up with the information that the other thread just deposited there, creating an echo of the current events so to speak.
However, I myself have experienced one that voided that explanation. It was years ago, I was sitting at home, playing some game (don't remember what, I was looking for a job and solliciting for job openings left and right anyway) when a woman called in response to one of my messages. As we started talking I remembered having dreamt about this particular conversation - and as I did, I also immediately remembered a question she was going to ask, that she yet hadn't.
I can assure you that's a weird sensation! It's as if you've seen a movie scene in a trailer and while watching the movie in full for the first time, you realise the trailer scene is about to come and you anticipate it. My mind was running two threads at the same time for sure: one was focussed on the conversation as it unfolded, the other was examining the dream I had, the answer I gave to her question and the opportunity to "break" the predicting dream.
Sure enough, within moments the question I already dreamt about was asked and I seriously had to consider giving a nonsense answer, but I realised that if I wanted to be taken seriously, I only could give the answer I had given in my dreams too. Mind you, the time frame between realisation and recollection of the predicting dream and the actual question was maybe a handful of seconds, where I was trying to focus on the conversation too, so I just didn't have much time if at all to think this through. In hindsight, I came up with a thousand things I could have said without turning myself into a raving lunatic, but I ended up giving the exact answer I had already given in my dreams.
It was a short moment, one that had just about zero direct influence on my life (let alone the universe as a whole), but a very remarkable one that I still remember. I had more other predicting dreams throughout my life, but they're relatively rare, about insignificant things which I usually only remember during or shortly after the event in question happened.
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Ghost
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Therefore I am
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posted August 26, 2016 07:37 PM |
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artu
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My BS sensor is tingling again
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posted August 26, 2016 09:39 PM |
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Guys, this is really easy, it is either a neurological illusion (deja vu or something similar) or your brain can travel to the future, which btw, must be predetermined in such a case. That is, no matter what action you choose, some things will happen just the same with the exact details you "remember" them. That, of course, means there is literally a destiny operating at the level of tiny details such as you'll have pork on Tuesday at 15:48 while a blue Ford will pass by the window and Let It Be is playing on the radio.
Which one do you think is more probable?
When you dream things, simply note them down with all the detail available and you will see that the ones you took notes of will never come true with such precision.
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Are you pretty? This is my occasion. - Ghost
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Maurice
Hero of Order
Part of the furniture
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posted August 27, 2016 01:41 AM |
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Edited by Maurice at 01:45, 27 Aug 2016.
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artu said:
or your brain can travel to the future
Not necessarily; it could also be that an external source is providing you the information, like a guardian spirit - even if the information isn't provided in the form of whispering in your ear, it could act as a conduit. Of course, that means you'll have to accept that such entities exist in the first place.
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which btw, must be predetermined in such a case.
Actually I strongly believe it is. Basically, you can do a thought experiment on this one:
- Make a snapshot of the universe;
- Allow it to evolve the most smallest possible timestep possible, such that making a new snapshot will show a delta of just 1 elementary state transition of any one elementary particle anywhere in the universe;
- Make a second snapshot of the universe;
The difference between the two snapshots is just the state transition of the one particle. What drives this state transition? If you'd be able to reload the initial snapshot and let it evolve again for that one state transition, it should result in the same next snapshot as everything that drove the transition is caught in the first snapshot. By extrapolation, every step that follows is predetermined then as well.
Or you can look at it in another way: we live in the present, which is a singularity between the past and the future. The present is defined as the smallest timestep possible before the universe evolves to the next snapshot as detailed above. While time is fluctuating across the universe, we can still define a smallest timestep this way; the "speed of time" varies depending on matter density within a given region of space, but is never zero.
With the past we know how it has occured, what happened and why. Even now, we still know of the conquests of Caesar for instance, or the rise of the ancient Greeks. It's not like tomorrow we wake up to find those events never happened, even if we don't know every little intricate detail of how those events came to be. The past happened in one way and one way only. For every infinitessimal time stap that ever was in existence, they all evolved in one way only.
As we live in the present, we see freedom of will and free choice out of all of the possibilities that seem to be presented to us, but in reality all those choices and possibilities are abstract and virtual. Out of all of those choices and possibilities, only one will ever manifest itself, to subsequently become anchored into history until the end of time. But since all the other choices and possibilities of any given moment never came to be, being virtual and non-existant, they were never a true possibility to begin with. The only one that mattered was the one that eventually happened. All the others are abstract concepts that only existed in our minds; you can't go back in time to make another choice instead.
Given that each moment can only happen in one way only, the future behaves exactly the same as the past, which happened in one way only. And just like the past is untangible (we can't go back to it), so is the future until the future passes through the singularity of the present to become the past. The key difference between how we perceive the past and the future is that our mind is locked within the singularity of the present, being driven towards the future by the direction of time's arrow; the future appears untangible, presenting a myriad of options and choices, but that's just our brain fooling us because it lacks knowledge of the future. The past is just as untangible, as we can't go back to it to reconsider our choices. Even watching a recording of the events in the past doesn't change that, as the watching happens in the present.
The scary conclusion of considering the future to be just as determined as the past is that free will doesn't exist (as every choice immediately invalidates all other choices as being virtual and imaginary only) - while free will is just about one of the most precious things life has to offer. It's fools' gold, a figment of our imagination, but one that is embedded in the very core of our being - which makes it damn scary to let go of. Heck, in my every day life I am still locked in the mindset of having a free will, despite the above consideration.
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fred79
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posted August 27, 2016 06:48 AM |
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glad to hear that yet another person remembers they dreamt the event. and funny to see that artu still doubts. i understand your hesitation to believe, artu; i really do. just know that, when it happens to you, you'll understand. i hope it does, man. i'd love to know what you'd have going through your brain from that point on.
i'd imagine your brain would snap, sadly; since you seem hell-bent on disbelieving. you might not be able to handle the knowledge that something that doesn't make logical sense, actually exists. 
anyway, i wonder if the ability is something left over from humans' past(like a psychic version of the appendix), or if it the next step in our evolution?
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