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RMZ1989
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posted November 26, 2013 01:34 PM |
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RedEmperor30 said:
i have not dabbled in crag, and have decided to test this puppy out, to stampede or not to stampede, thats the question
From my experience, it is much better with Stampede. When I was trying Crag without Stampede, I have difficult time in a lot of games, but when I've added 3 Stampedes, I've been winning a lot of games just because of them. It happened a lot of times that I manage to bring opponent to 3-9 HP, and he block all lanes, or just my creatures, and then I use 1-2 Paos + 1-2 Stampedes and finish the game.
I was thinking quite a lot how some games I've won would be sure loses without Stampede.
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RedEmperor30
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posted November 26, 2013 02:44 PM |
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agreed RMZ, stampeded i think is a must in very tricky situations 
another question... what is the point of collecting premium forgotten war cards, i am talking specifically swiss win packs?
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DoubleDeck
Promising
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posted November 26, 2013 05:46 PM |
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Stampede is a MUST with Crag, you need that reach when going post turn 5/6...
Lol on FoW premium cards 
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Dave_Jame
Promising
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posted November 27, 2013 12:44 PM |
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So I decided to compare two very similar cards just for fun: Sahaar Harpy and Jaguar warrior
 
Both have 1-0-3 states, cost 3 res. both have Quick attack and are uncommo.
So what makes one better then the other???
While JW needs 3 might he comes with an additional Charge abilitie
The Harpy on the other hand needs only 2 might and returns to your hand at the beginnig of your turn.
Eather would will rarely live longer then 2 turns, and since they lack No-rataliation they are more likely to be killed by it (with only 3 hp)
The first advantage of the Harpy is, that she is a flyer, which makes her more flexible in the tight front line of orcs. Also she has the potential to attack multiple times thanks to her abilte, whyle the jaguar is most likely going to get killed in his fist turn.
So if you were ever to think about adding any of them to a deck, or even creating a deck based on any of them... I think you should go for the harpy 11 out of 10 times :-P
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DoubleDeck
Promising
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posted November 27, 2013 04:22 PM |
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Nice analysis Dave, they are still both useless cards though 
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Dave_Jame
Promising
Legendary Hero
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posted November 27, 2013 05:12 PM |
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I still think the Harpy has potential and would love to use it somehow...
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DoubleDeck
Promising
Legendary Hero
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posted November 27, 2013 08:44 PM |
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Maybe in a Crag deck for late reach...
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watcher83
Supreme Hero
Child of Malassa
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posted November 28, 2013 07:11 AM |
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DoubleDeck said:
Maybe in a Crag deck for late reach...
use shredders, they only cost 1r more and do 2 damage+ swift
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DoubleDeck
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posted November 28, 2013 12:13 PM |
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Yes, shredders are a must on crag deck, but adding harps would give more probability for reach...
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RedEmperor30
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posted November 28, 2013 12:26 PM |
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double you are the stat guy, can you send me a list of creature abilities, eg: swift, phased etc etc? you don;t have to list creatures just abilities... if you had the time though would be nice to have creature cost
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DoubleDeck
Promising
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posted November 28, 2013 12:43 PM |
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RedEmperor30
Famous Hero
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posted November 28, 2013 01:20 PM |
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okay guys i have a hair ball theory.... read the game review where DoC was rated 3 [nice going] and there was mention of the lack of being able to customize cards, got me thinking.... would it not add a crazy dynamic to the game if we were able to create cards combining current abilities - where abilities will have either a might/ magic or fortune cost for eg: no retail costs +1 might cost.
the creatures stats and current abilities of card like a DA would remain 4 0 2 with -1 to hero with attack, HOWEVER if you want to customize this with say for instance swift, then perhaps this will cost you 21 wild cards to change original card and will increase might requirement by +1 or fortune requirement by +1.
OBV this poses some serious balancing issues, but i believe given the right costing for additional benefits, it could revolutionise the game and break away from "5 deck builds" dominate the meta??
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watcher83
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Child of Malassa
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posted November 28, 2013 01:41 PM |
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Just wanted to share something on the good/weak hero theory.
Today I made a sanctuary Akane deck ( my own creation - 4\4\0) to try it out. I managed to preserve my elo (1250-1350) with no real difficulty. As a side note I lost almost all games vs Crag HAck and won all vs Ishuma.
It seems in my case that I can preserve my elo with almost any hero but I can't go up from here on the ladder no matter what I play ( I have cards for almost all decks).
Thoughts?
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RedEmperor30
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posted November 28, 2013 03:27 PM |
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watcher83 said:
Just wanted to share something on the good/weak hero theory.
Today I made a sanctuary Akane deck ( my own creation - 4\4\0) to try it out. I managed to preserve my elo (1250-1350) with no real difficulty. As a side note I lost almost all games vs Crag HAck and won all vs Ishuma.
It seems in my case that I can preserve my elo with almost any hero but I can't go up from here on the ladder no matter what I play ( I have cards for almost all decks).
Thoughts?
I hate suggesting looking at the top tier 1 decks at the moment - purely because i don't really like copying  - but have you done this?
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watcher83
Supreme Hero
Child of Malassa
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posted November 28, 2013 03:38 PM |
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I look at all decks, if there's one I like I try it but usually each game brings new ideas so I modify them quite a bit, but 60% of the decks I play are my own, I mean at first for a long time ( months) I played a spell Cassandra and got to around 1100, then switched to Sandal, and for the last three months (as I started to have more and more cards) tried pretty much all decks that I can make ( my own or from the pros with some modifications).
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RedEmperor30
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posted November 28, 2013 03:50 PM |
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watcher83 said:
I look at all decks, if there's one I like I try it but usually each game brings new ideas so I modify them quite a bit, but 60% of the decks I play are my own, I mean at first for a long time ( months) I played a spell Cassandra and got to around 1100, then switched to Sandal, and for the last three months (as I started to have more and more cards) tried pretty much all decks that I can make ( my own or from the pros with some modifications).
IMHO cass fort has to be the most adaptable deck in the current meta, played in different ways to counter the current strong decks.
I know that some top 20 players remain adamant that it is easy to get to 1501 - my personal climb was hectic and stressful and NOT easy!!!! in saying that - loved every minute of it!!
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Elvin
Admirable
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Endless Revival
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posted November 28, 2013 03:51 PM |
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Well, not all decks can consistently stay at 1400+. The thing I would first check is how each deck fares vs the majority of popular decks, whether in low or high elo. If it lacks answers against more than a few of them, I'd recommend switching.
But perhaps the deck is not your problem and you have not specialized enough in those you are best at. At first, I felt that Sandal was not a consistently winning deck and especially vs necro when my rushes failed. After some more games and advice from better players, I saw that my playstyle could use some improvement. Challenging a stronger player or watching his stream could give you a few ideas and even more questions  "Why is he doing that? Would I have done the same? Did he prevent something this way? Should he have?" Etc.
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I know that some top 20 players remain adamant that it is easy to get to 1501
Yeah, no  I had to make a freaking 32 win streak on ladder and often disconnections lost me 25 points like that. One badly timed loss can wreck your ascent and you must play as good as possible in every single game. The biggest mistake you can make is playing with any less than full concentration, often one silly mistake can cost you the game. Or not seeing a possibility that you should totally have played. Casual or average play is bad for 1500 unless you have some cheesy op deck like Nergal slowpoke used to be
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watcher83
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Child of Malassa
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posted November 28, 2013 04:03 PM |
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Thanks for the replies guys. I watch the streams when I can, and I will try to specialize. I suck at Cassandra fortune, my best ones are Kelthor and Takana. I do well with Sandal but I always lose to Adar-Maliks that can play,with ishuma I do ok, I will never play Crag or Hakeem mill cause I hate those decks
To be honest I think this is my skill level atm, and I think I need to improve my playstyle overall.
P.S. About losing streaks, last week I tried to get Gazal hotv by winning swisses with all factions( already had won with 5), so I played 10 swisses with varying academy decks, I came close one time with Akane but I failed so hard especially with the troll Asalah otk, at the end of the day lost about 220 elo
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Elvin
Admirable
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Endless Revival
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posted November 28, 2013 05:07 PM |
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watcher83 said:
I do well with Sandal but I always lose to Adar-Maliks that can play
Like me when I was on my way to 1500 They became an easy matchup after I included 2 griffin knights plus 4 angels of mercy and I started playing more aggressively. After I realized what I should do, I no longer needed monsoon.
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DoubleDeck
Promising
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posted November 28, 2013 05:50 PM |
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watcher83 said:
I will never play Crag or Hakeem mill cause I hate those decks
It's often the decks you hate the most which are the good ones you should try!
Same goes for spells, for example, I hate seeing wasp swarm played by opponent so much, but it's a great card!
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