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evilsausage
evilsausage


Hired Hero
posted September 25, 2013 10:22 PM

DoubleDeck said:
evilsausage said:
Most importantly I want it to captivate me and make exploring the map fun, something H6 failed at.


H6 had good graphics and animations, so I thought exploring the map was cool, it was just the monotonous skill system that made battles really boring...where you used the same skill over and over (like pressed attack)...



For me the graphics wheren't enough to make up for its flaws. Yes the skill system was bad.
But the 3 tiers of monsters usually made creeping boring. It also felt like there was very little to do on the map. Few buildings to visit etc..
Don't really see any reason why i should bother with H6, its a slightly better looking then H5 but in return has less content and a flawed/boring gameplay.



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Avirosb
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posted September 26, 2013 08:20 AM

We should make a new, subject-changing topic where we discuss a single aspect of the game every week,
what we think of it and/or how it could have been done differently.

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Storm-Giant
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posted September 26, 2013 01:16 PM

Avirosb said:
We should make a new, subject-changing topic where we discuss a single aspect of the game every week,
what we think of it and/or how it could have been done differently.

You could start it
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evilsausage
evilsausage


Hired Hero
posted September 26, 2013 02:34 PM

Yes feel free!

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Hippox89
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Famous Hero
posted September 26, 2013 07:00 PM
Edited by Hippox89 at 19:03, 26 Sep 2013.

evilsausage said:
Avirosb said:
evilsausage said:
The HoMM 7 needs a good leader that really cares and knows what the franchise needs.

HoMM 7 needs good backers as well.
AFAIK, M&MH:6 had fairly low priority compared to some of the more popular Ubisoft franchises.


Yes turnbased games has a low priority because they usually don't please the big crowd. I guess thats why they went towards more competative gameplay.
Ubisoft better shape up or the will run the HoMM franchise to the ground. they need to care about their product and not just make changes because it might please the mainstream crowd.
But even with a mediocre budget could be enough to make great HoMM game, aslong as they have clue of what makes a good Heroes game.


I just hope they'll ruin the HoMM franchise so much that they'll consider selling it off to *perhaps* at more deserving developer/publisher. It's extremely unlikely that I'd consider buying games from corporations with bad business practices today. Like, EA, Ubisoft, Activision, Microsoft, and so on. Screw them. The Kickstarter concept are the way of the future. It'll help start up new dev teams that'll actually bring new/old concepts into the mainstream stagnation/degeneration. VCMI is HMM best bet, though.

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Storm-Giant
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posted September 26, 2013 07:20 PM

Hippox89 said:
I just hope they'll ruin the HoMM franchise so much that they'll consider selling it off to *perhaps* at more deserving developer/publisher.

That won't happen any time soon, though. Ubisoft is very committed to Ashan and developing it as the "Fantasy universe" of Ubisoft (that's why they keep making spin offs of M&M).

We have to live with Ubi vision of Heroes or...
Hippox89 said:
It's extremely unlikely that I'd consider buying games from corporations with bad business practices today. Like, EA, Ubisoft, Activision, Microsoft, and so on. Screw them. The Kickstarter concept are the way of the future. It'll help start up new dev teams that'll actually bring new/old concepts into the mainstream stagnation/degeneration. VCMI is HMM best bet, though.

...or look back at modding of older Heroes like VCMI
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Fraudatio
Fraudatio


Famous Hero
posted September 26, 2013 07:54 PM

With the H5 skill tree i would be completely locked in to this game. With the current world of warcraft-skill-tree its just no magic there to be found. Such a shame shame shame.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPY0mbBZv-4

I am in constant fear that it is myself growing too old for this, but still my conclusion is that its the games fault, its not me. Yet...

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evilsausage
evilsausage


Hired Hero
posted September 26, 2013 09:13 PM

Fraudatio said:
With the H5 skill tree i would be completely locked in to this game. With the current world of warcraft-skill-tree its just no magic there to be found. Such a shame shame shame.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPY0mbBZv-4

I am in constant fear that it is myself growing too old for this, but still my conclusion is that its the games fault, its not me. Yet...


Don't worry your not. Its the game.
I thought the same about hacknslash games when I couldn't enjoy Diablo 3.
But then I tried Path of exile and just realized it was just that Diablo 3 sucked.

Like Storm Giant said we have to live with Ubisofts Heroes products. To be fair H5 wasn't that bad. I just hope that future Heroes games struggles to be top notch and they make changes for the sake of good gameplay and not for the sake of reaching out to the casual crowd.

And please god get a new art style that doesn't look like a mix of warhammer and Warcraft.

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hippox89
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posted September 26, 2013 10:54 PM
Edited by hippox89 at 22:56, 26 Sep 2013.

evilsausage said:
And please god get a new art style that doesn't look like a mix of warhammer and Warcraft.


This so much. I'm sooo tired of graphics like this. I call it 'teen graphics'. Maybe that's not fair to teens, maybe it is. lol. It's definitely mainstream graphics, though.


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evilsausage
evilsausage


Hired Hero
posted September 28, 2013 12:38 PM

Yup so many fantasy games has a similar art style. Makes them all look too the same.
There is no bold thinking from ubisoft to experiment with the look. Sadly alot games do this.

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Storm-Giant
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posted September 28, 2013 01:58 PM

I think we aren't going to see big changes on the art of Ashan for the next years. Ubisoft team spent a lot of time & resources on stablishing some rules and basis, as it can be seen in the Ashan Compendium. They won't throw away all that effort.

For me it isn't a big issue, I can live with the current art.
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araedros
araedros

Tavern Dweller
posted September 30, 2013 10:08 AM

I only got in the game, playing v 2.1.1 and still have issues.
Leaving the fundamental falws of the game aside I just can't believe they issued the game all this time ago only to treat initial buyers as betta testers and actually claim their money for a product that is barely semi decent (from a technological perspective) one year later

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Storm-Giant
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posted September 30, 2013 12:38 PM

araedros said:
I only got in the game, playing v 2.1.1 and still have issues.
Leaving the fundamental falws of the game aside I just can't believe they issued the game all this time ago only to treat initial buyers as betta testers and actually claim their money for a product that is barely semi decent (from a technological perspective) one year later

That's how Ubilol works!

On a more serious note, the situation wasn't perfect. Have in mind originally Nival was supposed to develop H6 - but they rejected it, so Ubisoft had to find a studio to make H6 with not that many time left - and something (or maybe a lot of things) went wrong in the relationship between Ubisoft and Black Hole (don't forget BH employee post).

I think BH is also to blame of the low quality of the game.
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araedros
araedros

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posted September 30, 2013 01:18 PM

No doubt BH is to blame for all this also but when this game brings your stamp on it you have the definite accountability.
anyway, Ubi officially abandoned the game so there is no need to discuss anything further.
Saddly this may be more than a failed instalation of the franchise.
Let's wait abd see

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The_Polyglot
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posted September 30, 2013 08:20 PM

The franchise survived H4, I'm confident it can weather H6.
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Storm-Giant
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posted September 30, 2013 08:30 PM
Edited by Storm-Giant at 20:32, 30 Sep 2013.

The_Polyglot said:
The franchise survived H4, I'm confident it can weather H6.

While I agree the franchise will survive, I rate H6 under H4 any day. H6 is wooorse
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DoubleDeck
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Look into my eyes...
posted September 30, 2013 09:32 PM

The_Polyglot said:
The franchise survived H4, I'm confident it can weather H6.

Agreed!
And let's call H7 : Heroes of Might & Magic 7

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zaio-baio
zaio-baio


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Famous Hero
posted September 30, 2013 10:10 PM
Edited by zaio-baio at 22:25, 30 Sep 2013.

The_Polyglot said:
The franchise survived H4, I'm confident it can weather H6.


It wont survive another h6.

Havent played h6 at all (only the demo), wont bother if h7 is the same snow. Also i dont trust ubisoft anymore, dont know how did they managed to do that. Heroes was my favourite franchise.
Those guys may actually "cure" my gaming hobby .


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evilsausage
evilsausage


Hired Hero
posted September 30, 2013 10:20 PM

Both H4 and H6 where really bad. The big question is what Ubisoft will do now.
Will they just make another lazy sequal? Or get serious and try to give us something great.

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Storm-Giant
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posted October 01, 2013 12:06 AM

zaio-baio said:
The_Polyglot said:
The franchise survived H4, I'm confident it can weather H6.

It wont survive another h6.

Havent played h6 at all (only the demo), wont bother if h7 is the same snow. Also i dont trust ubisoft anymore, dont know how did they managed to do that. Heroes was my favourite franchise.

I agree on this. A lot of the "true" fans are very angry towars Ubisoft after H6. The community will be very cautious towards any game developed by Ubi from now on. And some won't care at all.

To me eyes, anything but a continuation/improvement of H3 or H5 would be a suicide
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