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posted November 28, 2013 05:56 PM |
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Punishment is the authoritative imposition of something undesirable or unpleasant upon an individual or group, in response to behaviour that an authority deems unacceptable or a violation of some norm.
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JollyJoker
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posted November 28, 2013 08:26 PM |
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That's the definition of GOD'S punishment.
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posted November 28, 2013 10:19 PM |
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Not, it's the general definition 
It at best contains God's punishment(or like some call it God's wraith).
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posted November 28, 2013 10:42 PM |
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There is no authority except God.
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posted November 28, 2013 11:14 PM |
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http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/authority
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posted November 28, 2013 11:55 PM |
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posted November 29, 2013 12:28 AM |
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Anything that pleases god is good, anything that doesn't please god is not so good, not necessarily "bad".
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posted November 30, 2013 06:36 AM |
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JollyJoker said:
That's the definition of GOD'S punishment.
It can be a judge in a court of law sending someone to life imprisonment. It can be a teacher sending a pupil to detention. etc
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posted December 07, 2013 07:00 PM |
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Corribus said:
[...]thread killing, spamming and posting insults are not allowed here.[...]
Since killing threads aint allowed here, i gonna revive it.
Please don't try to define "authority" if you aren't one.
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posted December 07, 2013 11:25 PM |
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Edited by yogi at 23:40, 07 Dec 2013.
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energy is never made nor lost (expanded or contracted), it is only transferred. energy is the one true immortal constant which when in temporary kinetic forms is referred to as space/time, matter, mother earth etc. ; and when in potential form is referred to as God, Big Bang, Singularity, Nirvana, Silent Consciousness, Father Sky etc.
Intelligence (imagination/creativity/curiosity) is the potential energy which willfully propels nature into all her higher complex kinetic forms. This relationship is commonly conceptualized as compliments: mind and body / yin and yang / time and space / spirituality and science / might and magic / energy and matter / positive and negative / law and chaos, etc.
potential energy is generally associated with the masculine side of this equation, and the top half of the spine with the organs of creation (the unstoppable force), and kinetic energy is generally associated with the feminine, and the bottom half of the spine with the organs of digestion and procreation (the immovable object).
however, the symmetry of our experience - from within our own bodies to our position on the sphere - is solely up to us. while one side of the planet is generally more masculine, the opposing side will generally be more feminine; while one is more "religious", the other will be more "political". these relationships spiral around the planet through time, always maintaining equality, and creating areas of balance along the mid-way points.
actions can very easily be determined to be either good or bad simply by whether or not they breed balance and tranquility. when in doubt, truth > false.
If you quote this elsewhere, please give credit where it is due and provide a link to my post.
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posted December 08, 2013 12:15 AM |
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That's pseudoscientific nonsense. That's not how energy works at all.
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posted December 08, 2013 01:14 AM |
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yes, it is.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservation_of_energy
if you care to elaborate, i will as well.
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posted December 08, 2013 01:20 AM |
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I mean intelligence doesn't have the connection to potential energy that you think it does, and potential energy certainly doesn't have anything to do with mystical concepts like "yin and yang". Or with "the masculine side of the equation", whatever that means. The whole post reads almost like a parody of all those Eastern-religion-for-hipster-westerners sites.
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posted December 08, 2013 02:40 AM |
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Once you publicly state "every religion must be respected"-as our beloved political correctness requires- you can't anymore accuse any opinion as pseudo scientific nonsense. Is out there more evidence that god exist than "the masculine side of the equation" or "yin and yang" thing?
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posted December 08, 2013 03:10 AM |
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Edited by yogi at 03:13, 08 Dec 2013.
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mvassilev said:
I mean intelligence doesn't have the connection to potential energy that you think it does,
there is no question that consciousness is energy; there is no question that everything is some form of energy. for the sake of keeping this conversation relatively simple, energy is generally found in one of 5 states, of increasing excitement and complexity - potential > gas > plasma > liquid > solid: the last four states of energy generally being referred to as kinetic, or matter. when awareness is focused on any of these states, you are indeed correct, intelligence is a form of kinetic energy. however, when awareness is focused on itself, or on the timeless potential state, no energy cascades down into the senses, or space/time. awareness is an inherent aspect of nature - a law present within our own bodies. learning to control it so that one may ignore all kinetic thoughts and distractions, and experience the potential state, is called meditation, and millions of people throughout history have mastered this practice and verified these claims. the absence of space/time is not nothing, it is potential energy. the absence of thought or external awareness allows us to actually experience and feel this. time ceases, and accordingly, so does space. however, consciousness remains, potential. potential energy is pure consciousness. i should add that this experience can require decades of purifying the body and mind of kinetic desires and distractions in order to experience.
mvassilev said:
and potential energy certainly doesn't have anything to do with mystical concepts like "yin and yang".
i highly recommend researching Taoism a bit more before making such a statement.
mvassilev said:
Or with "the masculine side of the equation", whatever that means.
masculine and feminine as synonyms for the congruent, complimentary, opposing forces that comprise kinetic existence. this was denoted in the previous line. stars and black-holes in the astrophysical sense if you will.
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The whole post reads almost like a parody of all those Eastern-religion-for-hipster-westerners sites.
not sure what you're referring to.
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posted December 08, 2013 03:18 AM |
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As I said, pseudoscience. Not much to talk about, really - it's no different from when Christian conservatives say the world was created in 6 days 6000 years ago.
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posted December 08, 2013 03:34 AM |
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mvassilev said:
As I said, pseudoscience.
you continually use that word as if you are about to follow it up with some "true" science, but you don't. i would appreciate specifics, you are coming across as extremely uninformed and dispassionate.
mvassilev said:
Not much to talk about, really
then stop depreciating the thread.
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- it's no different from when Christian conservatives say the world was created in 6 days 6000 years ago.
your analogies are the unjustifiable pseudo-science here.
i have both studied physics and meditated for almost 2 decades now; and am more than prepared to discuss this subject from any angle. however, i have much better things to do with my time than play tennis with one-liners.
if these lines of thought truly intrigue you, i highly recommend the works of Amit Goswami, PHD, or the books Tertium Organum or The Tao of Physics.
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posted December 08, 2013 03:43 AM |
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Edited by artu at 03:47, 08 Dec 2013.
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Salamandre said:
Once you publicly state "every religion must be respected"-as our beloved political correctness requires- you can't anymore accuse any opinion as pseudo scientific nonsense. Is out there more evidence that god exist than "the masculine side of the equation" or "yin and yang" thing?
He's not claiming the abrahamic God is the only one worthy of respect though. "Every religion must be respected" is a statement of secular law based on the principle that the state should treat all of its citizens equally and not discriminate the minorities. It does not mean you should take all of their content seriously. In this case, we know mvass doesnt take any of them seriously, anyway.
And the pseudo-scientific language of astrology or creationism or some guru is another matter, because they are not just mythology or ancient philosophy (which can be valuable by itself) but a hybrid that is neither science or religion. It imitates a terminology to pass itself more sophisticated than it actually is, think of it like a pianist playing the cheapest, most ordinary pop song but doing this with a tuxedo in an opera house. The biggest problem is using a symbolical terminology that once was consistent and coherent by itself and arbitrarily assemble it to modern science. When stars were known as gods, it made sense for them to decide the fate of men, wars, cities, celestial objects designating our character or the score of a football game makes no sense though. Story of Adam and Eve was at least coherent when God magically created them, dropping them in the middle of evolution is pointless and eclectic. Ying and yang makes sense in a dualistic cosmology in which matter and soul are separate entities, it's just an arbitrary pick of any symbol when you attribute them to stars and black holes. He could have said stars and planets as far as we can tell, on which basis one symbolism is more coherent than the other? It's a forced compatibility.
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posted December 08, 2013 03:48 AM |
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since when is spending decades purifying the mind and body to ensure the clearest possible interpretation of any data gathered from any experiments pseudoscience?
pseudoscience is not bothering to understand the inner workings of the human body before attempting to understand the external universe - like looking through a smudged microscope; ie. most modern positivistic "scientists".
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posted December 08, 2013 03:55 AM |
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artu said:
He could have said stars and planets as far as we can tell,
no, i couldn't have, as it would have denoted a different energetic relationship. stars and black-holes is exactly what i meant when discussing the complimentary forces that kinetic existence is comprised of. stars and planets is more connotative of the relationship between parent and child entities/forces.
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