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Geny
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What if Elvin was female?
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posted March 19, 2019 12:33 PM |
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blob2 said:
"Kickback" (pay more for bigger effect) would be hard to implement in H, but a "summon from discard pile", or "enchantment" effect would be big and possible. They are probably holding with all their ideas and release them few at a time. We usually get two keywords + one mechanic each expansion (not accounting unique effects of cards).
Wait, is 'Scheme' a mechanic actually?
"Echo" is HS's version of "Kickback" I suppose.
Summon from discard pile exists already - be it different resurrect effects or Warlock's bring back discarded cards. They just don't have a keyword, but the mechanic is there.
Enchantment, however, is something many people wanted and haven't got yet. Maybe even global enchantments.
I think that "Scheme" is the new mechanic. While "Twinspell" and "Lackeys" are the new keywords.
But yeah, this specific expansion seems a bit short on innovation.
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blob2
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posted March 19, 2019 01:08 PM |
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Edited by blob2 at 13:17, 19 Mar 2019.
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Geny said:
"Echo" is HS's version of "Kickback" I suppose.
For me Twinspell is a bit lazy expansion on the Echo concept.
Another wording mistake on my end, I've meant Kicker in MtG, which works like this that if you pay additional cost, you for example summon a stronger version of a minion or spell, or you can play both of it's "choose one" effects. Which actually fits perfectly for Druid. Maybe the devs don't want more "unoriginal MtG ripoff" comments?
Kickback is not an MtG keyword to that matter, I don't know from where I got it 
Geny said:
Summon from discard pile exists already - be it different resurrect effects or Warlock's bring back discarded cards.
I want them to expand on this concept: cards that affect your deck while in discard pile or cards that are stronger the more cards in your discard pile... this was actually a perfect fit for an Undead tribe (gets stronger with each 5 cards in discard pile or "eats" your discard pile are some of the ideas I can give right off the bat), but they missed a chance already with KotFT...
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Geny
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posted March 19, 2019 01:40 PM |
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cards that are stronger the more cards in your discard pile
Blood Queen Lanathel?
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blob2
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posted March 19, 2019 02:09 PM |
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Edited by blob2 at 14:15, 19 Mar 2019.
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Geny said:
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cards that are stronger the more cards in your discard pile
Blood Queen Lanathel?
Nah, this card is actually based on "Discard" mechanic and it needs a solid build-up to be actually useful (plus she has no immediate effect). Discard pile = graveyard, so the sum of all "used cards" like spells or dead minions. We all know that even with the recent boost Discard is still unreliable, because Discard RNG "burns" cards that might be useful to you. A Discard pile or however it is named in Hearthstone (need to check) are cards you've used up already... that is a huge difference cus you would be able to control a minions strength based on the phase of the game: for instance you could vomit your hand in preparation for playing a boosted minion next turn. That would add an interesting strategic layer to the game...
But hey, I know the games limitations plus that is only one idea of many possible ones, like adding a new class for instance (which is highly unlikely, but would give them a lot of design space)...
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blob2
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posted March 19, 2019 04:27 PM |
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Edited by blob2 at 19:06, 20 Mar 2019.
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emilsn91
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posted March 22, 2019 03:48 PM |
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Wauw the three new cards are ... yawn..
The idea of a year long story is so awesome, but thinking about how the mechanics will keep coming back all year makes me feel a little bored..
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blob2
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posted March 22, 2019 06:02 PM |
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Three new cards seem boring and unimaginitive. I kinda dislike the idea that whenever there's a rotation they basically reprint some cards to fill the space (ex. Rafaam Scheme which is Imp-losion, Forbidden Ritual or Fiendish Cicle all over again). I know MtG does the same, but they have zounds of cards already...
I say, gimmie a few Dragons and I'll be content...
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emilsn91
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posted March 22, 2019 06:58 PM |
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You are right. It is just reprints. Boring.
Yes, more dragons. Though it is hard to see any dragons on the reveal schedule.
Madame Lazul is a great card. That's it.
I have to say this: Why the **** is she in this expansion?! Imo she was not a character of that expansion.. it was about C'thun and the old gods.. Geez!
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blob2
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posted March 22, 2019 07:10 PM |
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Edited by blob2 at 19:12, 22 Mar 2019.
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emilsn91 said:
I have to say this: Why the **** is she in this expansion?! Imo she was not a character of that expansion.. it was about C'thun and the old gods.. Geez!
Well, they probably created her to build some kind of WotOG trailer around her and at some point figured they'll use her. Hearthstone doesn't exactly have more evil characters, aside from the monster bosses which would be silly. She just fitted an evil Priest vibe and was featured in one of the expansions of old (they mentioned "Shadows" is like a "bring back old stuff" style of expansion). I suppose they didn't plan to make her more influental later on. Or they did? Probably there will be some trivia in the Year of the Kraken Artbook
Oh, and there seems to actually be one Bronze Dragonflight teaser in the schedule...
PS: Speaking of the she-devil, Madame Lazul was revealed. A 3/2 Priest Legendary for 3 mana that has the Drakonid Operative ability. So unimaginative, but definately flexible and will see play, might even be staple like the Operative...
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emilsn91
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posted March 23, 2019 11:01 AM |
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She is pretty solid for a 3 drop. She is almost an auto include in every deck, because she is so good.
But as I said she is Meh
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Geny
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What if Elvin was female?
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posted March 23, 2019 03:14 PM |
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A mix of Drakonid Operative and Chameleos actually. You discover from the hand. In other words you learn 3 cards from your opponent's hand and then pick the most suited to your needs. That sounds great in theory.
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posted March 23, 2019 03:19 PM |
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Edited by blob2 at 15:25, 23 Mar 2019.
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I don't play competitively, I judge a card by its flexibility, in how many decks I will be able to play it, not if Priest "needs it". You can play it on curve, for cheap and in any Priest deck actually. Has various strategic usages. That's a good enough Legendary in my book. Chameleos was overhyped, but didn't see play. Bad on it's own and while it did spy on your opponents hand you didn't have any control on this so the card mostly stayed dead in your hand. Now, not only you can spy on few cards at a time, you can actually pick which of the three will suit you the most. And because Priest relies on being mostly counteractive, spying and the card itself is a perfect fit for the class...
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emilsn91
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posted March 25, 2019 09:13 PM |
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Bomb-Warrior
Minion mage
What is this expansion?
I am not sold yet
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blob2
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posted March 26, 2019 12:03 AM |
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Some cards are strong and all, but...
Somehow I feel this expansion is really unoriginal. Like we've all seen this stuff somewhere. Question is "how long they can go on"...
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emilsn91
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posted March 26, 2019 05:00 PM |
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Totally unoriginal 
And they made a total underwhelming Khadgar  He is like what the third most powerful mage and here he is a pushover? His effect is cool, but give him more stats or a more mage-like battlecry
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blob2
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posted March 28, 2019 09:42 AM |
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Edited by blob2 at 09:44, 28 Mar 2019.
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Khadgar as a card seems interesting, but I know what you mean, looks underwhelming. It should have been a Rhonin/Medivh level Legendary in terms of stats. They should've just picked a different character for this card.
Unfortunately the more cards are revealed the more this xpac seems like a rehash of previous expansions. And they still didn't learn a thing with the powerlevel, cus things like Jepetto look oppressive, while some seem too slow to even be played.
That said I like that Paladin is getting some Dragon love, those two new cards will fit nicely into my all time favorite Dragon Paladin deck. I'm starting to think that that bronze Dragonflight in reveal schedule might be Paladins Legendary. Maybe Chromie?
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Minion
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posted March 28, 2019 10:06 AM |
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Edited by Minion at 10:07, 28 Mar 2019.
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So cute ;P
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blob2
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Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted March 28, 2019 06:46 PM |
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Bleh, what a snowty Legendary (in terms of character, effect is good).
Hope the second one is a Dragon.
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emilsn91
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posted March 28, 2019 09:09 PM |
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There is a dragon reveal in 12 hours  A bronze looking one. Would be great to see another legendary dragon! I dont know a lot of Bronze dragons. But let's have a great dragon paladin.
I do like the Command Rhyssa. Mostly because of the artwork! I cannot remember seeing the Mecha-mount on artwork before.
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blob2
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posted March 28, 2019 09:56 PM |
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Edited by blob2 at 09:16, 29 Mar 2019.
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There are a few notable members of Bronze Dragonflight:
Nozdromu - well, we have him already, but it doesn't mean we won't get another version of him,
Chromie - keeper of time and HotS character,
Anachronos - son and heir of Nozdromu,
...and a few others like Grakkarond or various "Keepers of Time" agents.
Yay, Elementals are getting more love. Oh and there's a Dirty Rat 2.0 That is a mech
EDIT: Despite me criticizing the xpac of not being creative enough, it's not that I'm not interested. It's just... missing something. The hype, the bling. I see there are more opinions like that. Like I said, either the formula stopped working or something else is amiss. They will need to add freshness that shakes the game in the long run. And I'm talking "new hero class" level of shaking things up...
EDIT 2: So the Dragon Paladin Legendary Nozari is a Tree of Life with a body. I don't know what to think, never was a fan of the "heal your enemy" mechanic but if it can work somewhere then definitely it will be in Paladin. Cool art. The character is pretty random lore-wise. I mean she is the Co-leader of Keepers of Time but her role in Warcraft lore isn't that prominent.
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