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Vindicator
Vindicator


Supreme Hero
Right Back Extraordinaire
posted December 03, 2014 08:57 PM

How do you guys feel about the Iron Juggernaut card (the one that shuffles the mine into opponent's deck)? I really don't like it, there's no way to play around it and it's a 6/5 for 6 and a mech, which are good stats, seems like it's way too strong. Also it's just not fun to play against, you just have to hope it's at the bottom of your deck and you don't randomly take ten damage.

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DagothGares
DagothGares


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Undefeatable Hero
No gods or kings
posted December 03, 2014 09:42 PM

Lord of the arena that has a random chance to double mind blast you that is a mech. Well, I never got scared when people play lord of the arena, it's a card for 6 mana that is three cards worth 10 mana. The other half of this thing, however, is the random chance. It's not a play that affects the field and I think if they just want to do 10 to face, they can play Grommash.

Frankly, it's bassically a rag that get silenced after it's first shot and that shot hits face, but less cost efficient stats. Not anymore OP than any other particular legendary in my book.
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Minion
Minion


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posted December 03, 2014 09:59 PM
Edited by Minion at 22:04, 03 Dec 2014.

Does it deny a card draw, do you guys know?
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DagothGares
DagothGares


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No gods or kings
posted December 03, 2014 10:15 PM

nope, the mine says "take 10 damage, draw a card."
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Vindicator
Vindicator


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posted December 03, 2014 10:16 PM

Minion, it does not, here's the mine

Dagoth, the problem with the card is how much it constricts your play and how you have to calculate lethal even at 20+. At any point, you can draw it and then get burst down by Grommash next turn, and 6/5 for 6 won't really make them lose too much tempo

Compare it to Cairne. Juggernaut's initial body is better (difference is quite significant, can one shot belcher/yeti/etc) and he gives a free pyroblast to the face (10 mana worth of effect) while Cairne gives a free 4/5 (4 mana worth of effect). Sure, there are many situations where you'd much rather have a 4/5, but control warrior can afford to occasionally lose value to often win the game, and aggro warrior will be much scarier

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DagothGares
DagothGares


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No gods or kings
posted December 03, 2014 10:46 PM

I'll be glad if aggro warrior shows up. My suspicion is that warriors  of the control variety will still prefermore consistently good cards and I also suspect more people will veer towards cards that can deal better with sludge belcher, who will also be able to trade 1 for 1 with lord of the arena or better. I think it's gonna make people rage, but I'm not convinced people in higher echelons of play will use it.
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Minion
Minion


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posted December 03, 2014 11:12 PM

This card is super amazing in a Control vs Control match-up, there is no doubt about it. Just absolutely insane. I wish they gave other Warrior decks something too ;/
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DagothGares
DagothGares


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No gods or kings
posted December 04, 2014 10:25 AM

Quote:
Dagoth, the problem with the card is how much it constricts your play and how you have to calculate lethal even at 20+.
There's a limit to what you can play against. This is just random chance really. And consider what warrior has to remove if he wants to add this.

If he wants to remove Cairne, Sylvanas or Ysera, then I can take it. I feel like I can't stress this enough. The body isn't that scary. I'm assuming he wouldn't remove alex or grommash with that type of deck. But that's fine with me! Wallet warrior is a battle of attrition and if he chooses to make his damage better, but sacrifices his capability to withstand rush or to fight me in long-term, then more power to him.
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blob2
blob2


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Blob-Ohmos the Second
posted December 04, 2014 12:09 PM
Edited by blob2 at 12:26, 04 Dec 2014.

Nice! I see that aside from introducing said Gnomes and Goblins, they're also introducing various other creatures, and I'm not talking about Mechs. I thought it will only be about humanoids and robots... I just might give this expansion a go afterall...

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Minion
Minion


Legendary Hero
posted December 04, 2014 12:27 PM

New balance patch before GvG :

Soulfire now costs 1 (up from 0)
Gadgetzan Auctioneer now costs 6 (up from 5)
Flare now costs 2 (up from 1)

I'm doubtful about Gadgetzan but because of the Spare Part mechanic in the upcoming expansion, maybe they know what they are doing.
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DagothGares
DagothGares


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No gods or kings
posted December 04, 2014 01:47 PM

The thing that made miracle ridiculous wasn't leeroy, but gadgetzan's draw engine. Any move that could be repeated infinitely or could be used to kill you with just the right cards would form in miracle and kill you. So Gadgetzan needed to get the nerf bat. If only blizzard realised sooner.
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emilsn91
emilsn91


Supreme Hero
posted December 05, 2014 02:20 PM

Free Arena up. Only got one battle before work and I got a horrible deck with horrible new cards :S

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Minion
Minion


Legendary Hero
posted December 05, 2014 03:05 PM

I made a horrible deck and went 4-3 too, Shaman with getting almost no spells. ;/ Already have a love/hate relationship with the 4/4 ogre that hits whatever lol
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DagothGares
DagothGares


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No gods or kings
posted December 05, 2014 03:08 PM

het hit my patient assassin. good times.
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emilsn91
emilsn91


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posted December 09, 2014 05:44 PM

Anyone know why the GvsG aint available in EU?

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DagothGares
DagothGares


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No gods or kings
posted December 09, 2014 05:51 PM

blizzard was flooded by support tickets of people asking refunds, because the americans accidentally bought en masse classic packs instead of gvg packs. This meant they had to pull technicians from europe and delay the europen release. The americans were literally so stupid they delayed our release.
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blob2
blob2


Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
posted December 09, 2014 07:21 PM

Ha ha!

Own one of the biggest servers in the world. Have stoopid Americans overload it because of their mistake

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Minion
Minion


Legendary Hero
posted December 09, 2014 11:00 PM

Americans ruining the lives of the rest of the world, nothing new really ;D

jk/ for all ye americans
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emilsn91
emilsn91


Supreme Hero
posted December 10, 2014 09:20 AM

omg...

well thank you for the answer

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veco
veco


Legendary Hero
who am I?
posted December 10, 2014 11:20 AM
Edited by veco at 11:59, 10 Dec 2014.

Got the new Warlock legendary in the second free pack

Also, I'm now running a shaman murlock arena - first pick neptulon (draw 4 murlocs), got a bluegill and a warleader along the way
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