|
|
Geny
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
What if Elvin was female?
|
posted March 17, 2020 08:03 PM |
|
|
And it's all coming out in the next three weeks. I'm not used to expansions being so close to their announcements.
____________
DON'T BE A NOOB, JOIN A.D.V.E.N.T.U.R.E.
|
|
emilsn91
Supreme Hero
|
|
posted March 18, 2020 02:58 AM |
|
|
Imo this is the biggest game changer in Hearthstone history.
This is actually pretty big. Story wise last year was a peak, the scope was big. But looking at this year, they acutally have a lot of different stuff coming up.
A new class is really AWESOME. Finally, it will change a lot. I am actually psyched! 
|
|
blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
|
|
posted March 18, 2020 07:05 PM |
|
Edited by blob2 at 19:07, 18 Mar 2020.
|
emilsn91 said:
A new class is really AWESOME. Finally, it will change a lot. I am actually psyched!
And the MOST important question is... how will they change the class selection screen now that we have 10 slots 
Btw there is already a steady flow of new cards revealed daily.
Speaking of cards I like that they are going with Outland: the expansion is lore heavy, my favourite kind of thing, and a lot of cult characters and minions seem to be making their way into the game (Keal'thas is already in, and was it Maiev I've seen in the trailer?).
People say they are giving a lot of free stuff because their rivals are stronger then ever (MtG Arena, Runterra etc). But players are the winners of this, no duplicate rule for all cards is for me the biggest change in the game economy to date, kinda makes you sad for all those times I was really unlucky with openings that could've been better ANd the best part is: you don't even need to worry if you'll craft a card and get a copy in your next pack opening, which happened to yours truly more times then I can remember
|
|
Geny
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
What if Elvin was female?
|
|
posted March 19, 2020 06:16 AM |
|
|
I looked at the roadmap for 2020 and yet another game mode is planned for the summer. Also, achievements are planned for the end of the year. The team is gaining speed and doesn't show any signs of slowing down.
____________
DON'T BE A NOOB, JOIN A.D.V.E.N.T.U.R.E.
|
|
blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
|
|
posted March 20, 2020 07:11 PM |
|
|
YES!
FU Resurrect Priest! Shame it's only for Demon Hunter...
|
|
Geny
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
What if Elvin was female?
|
|
posted March 21, 2020 07:49 AM |
|
|
If it was neutral, it would be banned along with Leeroy.
But I agree, a way to circumvent taunts was a long time coming.
____________
DON'T BE A NOOB, JOIN A.D.V.E.N.T.U.R.E.
|
|
blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
|
|
posted March 21, 2020 01:02 PM |
|
Edited by blob2 at 13:12, 21 Mar 2020.
|
Imo this card shows that people behind Hearthstone, despite various opinions on them, do think what they are doing.
Sure, Team 5 likes to change their approach at times, sometimes even straight-on denying what they were claiming before (class identities, balancing, nerfing philosophy etc). Example: on many occasions devs pushed the idea that RNG cards are fun and make the game great for casual players, yet now they straight-on admit they want to reduce the random element in games. And there are balancing issues. And we gotta remember many decisions are business related, like flashy "awesome" cards to draw in players. But at the same they constantly adapt this game, try to surprise players or at least keep things fresh. I think it's the last Blizzard game that, despite all the money-making philosophy behind it, is still a product of passion (you can see it in their videos, like the "garage" one, which was a bit cringy, but I still enjoyed it). They are still having fun with this, and it's good they have their creative freedom, a core philosophy Blizzard is forgetting nowadays...
Back to the card and the whole point of my post:
Kayn has good stats (a Charge minion is always handy, and it's 8 points of stats for 4 mana which is not undewhelming). His ability is super-powerful and annoying, but limited to one class so it won't go overboard. I think Demon Hunter will need a lot more balancing still, but with this card not only do they push for class identity, strike fast and hard (which is good design), they simply created a unique, versitile and useful card.
That said, for what's it worth, this is probably the one game I've been playing the longest without break, so it means something...
PS: Maiev revealed
I think the cards battlecry is a cool way to express her "prisoner" characteristic (and I belive she has an imprisonment ability in HotS). That said, a powerful and versatile card that will be played. As a Legendary card should be.
|
|
emilsn91
Supreme Hero
|
|
posted March 24, 2020 12:08 PM |
|
Edited by emilsn91 at 20:33, 24 Mar 2020.
|
This expansion is shaping up to be quite amazing.
I am so psyched (and bored due to Corona) that I am thinking about buying cards..
EDIT: Time to rant a little. All paladin cards revealed. Libram package and a murloc package is was they get this time around. I liked the Libram theme. Cool, no worries. But Team5 is still on the murloc thing.. Why? Why not go for dragons, healadin or only-pala. Too many archtypes for pala atm. Less is more.
|
|
blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
|
|
posted April 02, 2020 09:28 PM |
|
|
I think the prologue for Demon Hunter was really solid. Not only it didn't have the usual Hearthstone quirkiness (though devs did mention they want to keep Illidan's tone serious), it was also pretty lore heavy.
Judging by what I've seen the class might be pretty strong, especially the Warglaves of Azzinoth + Satyr Overseer combo looks decent.
|
|
Geny
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
What if Elvin was female?
|
|
posted April 03, 2020 09:18 AM |
|
|
Huh, didn't notice that they reskinned Illidan's original card... until I got him randomly during a match.
Also, my opponent got the upgraded demon hunter hero power with Finley.
I love that time just before an expansion hits, when random effects give you a preview of things to come.
____________
DON'T BE A NOOB, JOIN A.D.V.E.N.T.U.R.E.
|
|
blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
|
|
posted April 03, 2020 01:34 PM |
|
Edited by blob2 at 13:37, 03 Apr 2020.
|
Geny said:
Huh, didn't notice that they reskinned Illidan's original card... until I got him randomly during a match.
I knew about it somewhat as I heard it mentioned somewhere. But I did notice only after browsing my collection. I got him Golden in a pack and decided to keep him so I immediately noticed the card is Xavius now.
But it's actually pretty unfortunate, because Illidan had a very cool entrance animation, which they even visually upgraded at some point, but now it was cast off, Xavius doesn't have any entrance animation atm.
Additionally it's not only art, his effect was changed a bit: previous card read "whenever you play a card". Now it's "after you play a card". I don't know if this is a mechanic change or simply some wording clean up. Also Flame of Azzinoth tokens belonged to Elemental tribe (it was added at some point). Now the tokens are Demons...
Doesn't change much as the card wasn't popular, people are probably more happy with getting a full-blown Demon Hunter class, but it should be noted nevertheless.
|
|
blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
|
|
posted April 07, 2020 07:54 PM |
|
Edited by blob2 at 19:56, 07 Apr 2020.
|
24 packs and Archspore Msshi'fn.
So a standard forgetable pack opening for me.
I honestly don't know what to craft, maybe Kayn for Demon Hunter?
Speaking of DH, that Wrathscale Naga + Command the Illidari combo is outrageous, it's 6 Rush dmg + 18 (random enemy targets) additional damage...
|
|
Minion
Legendary Hero
|
|
posted April 07, 2020 08:56 PM |
|
|
60 packs, I really saved up the gold for this expansion. Got 3 Legendaries, pretty fine with that. But...
Ysiel Windsinger - I have no idea what to do with her. Unfortunately only potential I see for her is in some OTK combo deck... pass.
Teron Gorefiend - wtf is this crap, lol. Not even Zoo wants to destroy their own board! Worst. legendary. ever.
But luckily last one:
Maiev Shadowsong - Perfect in my highlander Demon Hunter, but she fits elsewhere for sure. Great neutral legendary.
Magtheridon will probably be my first craft, probably same time with Kayn Sunfury. Taunts can be a problem for Demonhunter, I am noticing
|
|
blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
|
|
posted April 08, 2020 09:04 AM |
|
Edited by blob2 at 09:12, 08 Apr 2020.
|
I'm noticing an influx of comments from players being unhappy with Demon Hunter power level. While it is typical for people to whine just a week into whenever something big appears in the game (let's take Galakrond mechanics from previous expansion), I think they really went overboard with some of the DH cards. For example Priestess of Fury or Imprisoned Antaen are cards that are very hard to deal with: good stats and immediate effects, they are threats that need to be instantly addressed. I played a few matches against them and it does feel something is wrong here. It just feels like the power level of some cards is too much, even if DH is supposed to be this "glass cannon" type of class.
I suppose we will get nerfs, and some hard counter decks made by the community, but it's pretty suspicious their in-house balance testers didn't see this coming. I think Team 5 says one thing about how they want to balance the game, but then get orders to bring something "flashy" into the game to make players "feel good" with winning and bring more of them into the game. Yeah it's business I know, it's a type of "bait" strategy. I am not saying they weren't generous lately, there are some really good changes to the economy (probably also a part of strategy to bring in/back some players), but we're having balancing issues in the game all-over-again.
I don't know if you guys feel the same.
|
|
Geny
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
What if Elvin was female?
|
|
posted April 08, 2020 09:43 AM |
|
Edited by Geny at 13:04, 08 Apr 2020.
|
Quote:
Teron Gorefiend - wtf is this crap, lol. Not even Zoo wants to destroy their own board! Worst. legendary. ever.
I got him too (along with Hanar. 2 legendaries in 40 packs...) and at first I thought the same thing. Then I saw that there is a good number of new deathrattle cards that summon powerful minions. Might be worth a try.
Edit: tried making a sort of deathrattle resurrect priest. It's still a work in progress, but Teron is useful there. By no means is he a corner stone of the deck, but he fits in nicely. Shadowy figure especially sinergizes well with him, because you can have 2 minions with a small army stored in their deathrattle.
____________
DON'T BE A NOOB, JOIN A.D.V.E.N.T.U.R.E.
|
|
Minion
Legendary Hero
|
|
posted April 09, 2020 12:30 PM |
|
|
@Blob. Well they nerfed the class already, wow, that was fast. But sure I thought Skull of Guldan was the worst offender, so OP. My second complaint would have been the lifesteal weapon. It was so easy to do 9 damage, and heal for 9 when combined with just the heropower. That is a lot for a single card. Add the other attack buffing cards and suddenly everyone had to run 2 Oozes in their decks. But it looks better now.. almost bad though? But again maybe too early to tell.
I hit Legend for the first time btw. Sacrificial Pact. Nuff said. That card has got to change to "destroy a friendly minion", it is just rediculous as it is now against Demon Hunter.
@Geny. Hmm, now that the most aggressive decks have fallen off, maybe there is a change for a priest like that. But in my experience, unless you can cheat minions out for free, there is no use in sacrificing them for later gains. It just loses too much tempo. But interesting to know that it might work 
____________
"These friends probably started using condoms after having produced the most optimum amount of offsprings. Kudos to them for showing at least some restraint" - Tsar-ivor
|
|
emilsn91
Supreme Hero
|
|
posted April 12, 2020 03:29 PM |
|
|
Soooo new expansion. New nerfs within minutes almost
As with previous expansions, I play wild because I got NONE of the good stuff
Legendary wise:
Ysiel
Both Paladin ones
Lady Vashj
And of course Kael Thas.
So well yeah.. I got must paladin stuff, but those decks does not seem to cut it atm.
I suppose a good idea would be just to craft all DH cards? Then you can perform well in the meta for the rest of the year
|
|
blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
|
|
posted April 15, 2020 12:03 AM |
|
Edited by blob2 at 00:05, 15 Apr 2020.
|
Nice, another wave of nerfs, this time it seems to be tech cards that abuse DH (Sacrificial Pack, Albatross which counteres highlander), which is straaange, cus weren't the previous nerfs suppose to stop DH in it's tracks? That said it seems they really changed their approach, they are handing out nerfs more often now.
In other news I got Kargath in a pack which is cool as I still enjoy and play Galakrond Rush Warrior and he fits into the deck just right.
PS: You guys might remember I'm a bit of an artbook collector. So I recently bought Year of Kraken artbook and I must say that while the game itself had it's ups and downs gameplay wise (mostly ups though ), the level of art and actual original content that went into it over the years is really great. It's highly enjoyable to see things like Whispers of the Old Gods or MSoG (let's not forget Karazhan which also had tons of original content) all over again and reminescent those bygone times  I'm looking forward to the next book, vol 3 Year of the Mammoth, which will contain not only Knights of the FT, K&K, but most importantly: Journey to Un'Goro.
|
|
Minion
Legendary Hero
|
|
posted April 15, 2020 12:19 AM |
|
Edited by Minion at 10:28, 15 Apr 2020.
|
Funnily enough, I do agree with all of these changes. I personally made it to Legend first time ever, because of the easier way there and also because of Sacrificial Pact. That card was ok as long as it was only against CRAPPY minions. Demons used to be crap. But now they are super strong. No way is that card ok anymore.
My change: 0 mana -> detroy friendly demon
Albatross imho is only problematic with Priest. Turn 3 Albatross means that either you kill it and they Rez it next turn, or you don't kill it and they cast Grave Rune on it. Either way your whole deck is filled with Albatrosses  And although it sounds like fun, it sadly is not.
My change: Battlecry: Gain Deathrattle: Shuffle two albatrosses in your opponents deck.
Kael'thas is OP though. It can't exist like it is. TBH if Blizzard had done what their earlier philosophy was, that 0 cost cards are limiting design space, the card wouldn't be a problem. But as they can't undo half of the expansion...
My change: Once per turn, reduce the cost of your 3rd spell to 0. It should probably get a HP buff in addition, a 4/8 for 6 mana.
Frenzied Felwing, who could have seen that another 0 mana card is problematic, and an aggro card for that matter? Answer, everyone but Blizzard, lol.
My change: Cost can't be reduced below 1 mana.
Demon Hunter could become a problem again though after these changes, so it should be looked at as well. Personally I have always hated cards that scale up in attack already from turn 1, it is absurd that Demon Hunters Battlefiend which is a 1 drop, attacks for 3 on turn 2 and for 4 on turn 3. Either it should be a 2 drop (which would kill the card lol, so no) or just cap the frigging attack at 3. A 3/2 for 1 mana is good enough. But enough ranting for now 
|
|
Geny
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
What if Elvin was female?
|
|
posted April 25, 2020 08:37 AM |
|
|
So back to Teron. If you haven't dusted him yet, there is apparently a top 10 deck that uses him - Egg Warrior. I tried it and it seems to have potential. And it's aggressive, so it matches pretty well against Demon Hunter.
____________
DON'T BE A NOOB, JOIN A.D.V.E.N.T.U.R.E.
|
| |
|
|
This Popular Thread is pages long: 
