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emilsn91
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posted April 17, 2016 08:16 PM |
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Great card - But I need to know if it kills my Deathrattle minion???
New Druid card - A card that is pointing towards a C'thun druid .. 
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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted April 17, 2016 08:43 PM |
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Edited by blob2 at 20:44, 17 Apr 2016.
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Does this answer your question? Of course so far we've only seen a translation for Hurahan, but I doubt it would be any other way ("trigger" is the magic word here). She just screams mini Feign Death 
And the Druid card? Solid, but most importantly it's the first ever Arakkoa in Hearthstone
PS: Without going too much into spoilers, but based on the most recent lore, I wonder if we'll see an alternative Ysera in WotoG...
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emilsn91
Supreme Hero
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posted April 17, 2016 09:14 PM |
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Okay. Well, if it just triggers it. Then it is super amazing and I will be using it. 
The arrokoa is fine I guess. Again never a fan of that race either
Another version of Ysera; as in a corrupted version (The emerald nightmare)
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Minion
Legendary Hero
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posted April 18, 2016 09:04 PM |
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I think it is the first actually good Hunter Legendary
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"These friends probably started using condoms after having produced the most optimum amount of offsprings. Kudos to them for showing at least some restraint" - Tsar-ivor
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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted April 18, 2016 09:41 PM |
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Minion said:
I think it is the first actually good Hunter Legendary
Many people seem to think the same. At worst it's a Beast with good stat distribution. At best it will be a staple if Control/Deathrattle Hunter will be a thing ('Infest' and 'Call of the Wild' point into that direction).
Interesting fact: till now almost all classes got around 5 card reveals.
@emilsn91
Yeah, I meant Corrupted/Nightmare Ysera... she would fit really good into the theme, the problem is she's a part of WoW Legion lore and I don't know if they will release a card that predates the expansion.
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Minion
Legendary Hero
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posted April 18, 2016 09:55 PM |
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For the record, I hate Deathrattle minions. They are usually OP. Imagine Highmane - you get 10/9 worth stats for 6 mana! Shredder gives usually some 6/5 stats for 4 mana. Spider gives 3/4 stats for 2 mana. They are all OP. If you only look at the stats that is. They do come delayed but still.
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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted April 18, 2016 10:09 PM |
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Can anybody tell me how does this s*it work actually?
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Minion
Legendary Hero
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posted April 18, 2016 10:22 PM |
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"It changes every turn until you play it. It has a special glow on it and a tooltip if you mouse over it to remind you that it is Shifter Zerus."
I really like it, it is probably bad but if you have it in your hand at the start it will change into something decent in some time at least I think. But if you draw it late it sucks....
Interesting but I dunno. Probably a bad card.
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"These friends probably started using condoms after having produced the most optimum amount of offsprings. Kudos to them for showing at least some restraint" - Tsar-ivor
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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted April 18, 2016 10:40 PM |
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Ehh, I don't like cards like this one. RNG is frustrating by default, and how can you not feelbad if you're holding a Tirion turn 7 which turns into Angry Chicken turn 8? Sure it might save your butt sometimes, but usually it's not depandable. Another "for fun" card and seems we're getting a lot of them in this expansion...
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emilsn91
Supreme Hero
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posted April 19, 2016 10:41 AM |
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Oh do not hate me, but I love random cards and this one could be loads of fun. But yes in a more competetive format this is very useless..
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Minion
Legendary Hero
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posted April 19, 2016 12:11 PM |
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Edited by Minion at 12:12, 19 Apr 2016.
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I love RNG cards too, they are fun, when they aren't ridiculously strong. Cards like Burgle, Thoughtsteal, Beneath the Grounds etc are great. That's why I like this card also, it is unique fun. But in a sense of competitive play this is not very strong, that is what I meant.
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emilsn91
Supreme Hero
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posted April 19, 2016 03:04 PM |
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Minion said:
I love RNG cards too, they are fun, when they aren't ridiculously strong. Cards like Burgle, Thoughtsteal, Beneath the Grounds etc are great. That's why I like this card also, it is unique fun. But in a sense of competitive play this is not very strong, that is what I meant.
I understood it no worries.
What news do you think will be given this thursday for the live stream?
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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted April 19, 2016 04:43 PM |
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Edited by blob2 at 19:24, 19 Apr 2016.
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Card dump of course. I wonder if we'll still get some interesting reveals until stream hits.
Btw I've looked it up, and if you wonder, there's probably one new neutral Legendary left to reveal (but there might be a twist: GvG had 11, TGT had 10, but we don't know if C'Thun is acounted for). Plus 3 class Legendaries. There's risk that one of them (Mage?) might be a corrupted Nat Pagle (what looks like his art is posted on the oldgods site) which would suck cause I find him boring...
Why am I talking about it? Cause as you know Legendaries are my thing, and so far I'm pretty dissatisfied with the reveals. Aside from Old Gods and few others most simply suck or look boring. Oh well, more dust for Epics!
EDIT: Yo, it's official.
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emilsn91
Supreme Hero
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posted April 19, 2016 08:05 PM |
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Yeah Next week and I got a lot of gold
Nat pagle as a legendary? Where do you see those clues? And well I do believe that we all are a little disappointed.. :/
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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted April 19, 2016 08:13 PM |
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Edited by blob2 at 20:14, 19 Apr 2016.
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emilsn91 said:
Nat pagle as a legendary? Where do you see those clues? And well I do believe that we all are a little disappointed.. :/
There's a little icon on oldgods.com page which definately portraits some kind of corrupted version of him ('Your friends, Corrupted' section). Why Legendary? Cause his a classic Legendary and all "old friends" corrupted versions so far are Legendaries. Besides, aside from Legandaries no other minions are named after actual characters...
It might be a spell though...
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emilsn91
Supreme Hero
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posted April 20, 2016 09:38 AM |
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Found it and I believe you are correct, though it is difficult to see because of the icon's size - If it is Nat then that card would need a serious buff in order to be awesome..
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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted April 20, 2016 07:49 PM |
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Edited by blob2 at 20:02, 20 Apr 2016.
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NERFS!
It's surprising how many of them were correctly forseen by the fanbase...
As you probably guessed my 'favourite' one is the FoN nerf cause it will give me 1600 dust in return But aside of that I think it's a good nerf. The Treants are permanent, and although they lack Taunt as some people suggested, imo the card will still be useful (but I might be wrong here).
BGH was nerfed of course, but I wonder if it will be enough. Sure 5 mana is a big cost, but it still kills of every 7+ atk minion, and because removing a 7 atk minion is a late game thing this does not stop it from 'limiting design space'.It's 2 mana more for a removal and a minion. I wonder if some kind of a "deal X dmg" wasn't a better call here...
I wonder about Keeper of the Groove nerf, was it that powerful stat-wise that it needed a nerf? It was not teh easiest minions to remove, but I never would though that it was played for it's stats, only for the effect (what I mean is that the minion was "a bonus"). I think 2/3 would suffice, cause 2/2 for 4 mana is really underwhelming.
Arcane golem was irritating but its nerf might make it unplayable I'm afraid...
Master of Disguise is an interesting nerf. I don't remember the card played that much, it's probably a pre-empetive nerf
There are some really good nerfs though like Blade Flurry (though 4 mana might be too steep) or Ancient of Lore for instance.
What are your thoughts?
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emilsn91
Supreme Hero
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posted April 20, 2016 09:12 PM |
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My thoughts.. Oh dear..
I have no real opinion about the druid cards. I never really play druid, but the Keeper of the Groove has lost too much potential..
The owl is still playable, but one needs to rethink the curve for it to be good.
BgH is nerf enough. 5 mana and the stats makes it a worse card then it used too.. But still playable
Hunters mark is fair enough.
Blade Furry - I freaking hate that card and I am very pleased!
Knife juggler. It is still a threat..
Leper Gnome is still good.
Arcane GOlem sucks without charge..
Molten and MoDisguise - I guess it is a huge nerf for molten, but who plays MoD?!
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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted April 20, 2016 09:42 PM |
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Edited by blob2 at 22:48, 20 Apr 2016.
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emilsn91 said:
I have no real opinion about the druid cards. I never really play druid, but the Keeper of the Groove has lost too much potential..
Don't tell me you weren't at least a little bit annoyed with the ever-present FoN+SR combo? The problem with Druid is that Combo Druid completly took over all other Druid decks. Not so long ago there were like three different types of Druid decks, but recently all I ever face is Combo Druid which is not only irriatting but simply boring...
emilsn91 said:
MoDisguise - I guess it is a huge nerf for molten, but who plays MoD?!
A lot of people are mocking this nerf but Blizzard said the card was not OP in itself, but that it limited the design space... When you think about this the card might have been really strong in WotoG: vanilla stats plus potentialy strong exploitable effect. The card wasn't played only because of Rouge nature as a class. But it seems they're pushing for some kind of control Rouge and lot of players seem to dig the idea. Now just think about it: with the newly introduced Shadowcaster you could copy MoD and play it with Raganros on turn 9... how do you remove a Stealthed 8/8!?
Overall I think it's a really good move on Blizzards side.
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emilsn91
Supreme Hero
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posted April 20, 2016 10:44 PM |
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Edited by emilsn91 at 23:05, 20 Apr 2016.
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blob2 said:
emilsn91 said:
I have no real opinion about the druid cards. I never really play druid, but the Keeper of the Groove has lost too much potential..
Don't tell me you weren't at least a little bit annoyed with the ever-present FoN+SR combo? The problem with Druid is that Combo Druid completly took over all other Druid decks. Not so long ago there were like three different types of Druid decks, but recently all I ever face is Combo Druid which is not only irriatting but simply boring...
emilsn91 said:
MoDisguise - I guess it is a huge nerf for molten, but who plays MoD?!
A lot of people are mocking this nerf but Blizzard said the card was not OP in itself, but that it limited the design space... When you think about this the card might have been really strong in WotoG: vanilla stats plus potentialy strong exploitable effect. The card wasn't played only because of Rouge nature as a class. But it seems they're pushing for some kind of control Rouge and lot of players seem to dig the idea. Now just think about it: with the newly introduced Shadowcaster you could copy MoD and play it with Raganros on turn 9... how do you remove a Stealthed 8/8!?
Overall I think it's a really good move on Blizzards side.
Oh yeah I have faced those combo druids.. And yeah I see the nerf, I just never play druid.
I see the idea behind the MoD, and they are indeed nerfing the card because of the new combos. Because I have never seen it used
EDIT: What a lame brawl.. Same as Portals Portals.. just with Raven Idol.. and can we please change the reward from classic packs.. oor at least give me thse cards I need.. Sigh..
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