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anti-victor
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posted May 06, 2016 08:06 AM |
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blob2 said:
What the f*ck is WRONG with this game!? Winning games in casual was never this f*cking irritating and rough! For a couple of days straight I have this long streaks of loosing game after game via topdecking opponents (f*ck you Warlocks and Mages, no seriously F*CK YOU!) with whichever deck I choose. I'm thinking of crafting the most cancerous deck possible just to give those f*ckers a reason to hate their lives. This game is supposed to be fun but the RNG ruins everything. RNG and those f*cking aggro/burst/trolling decks...
Sorry had to let it out...
Yeah I feel the same, holy fk today I had 60g rogue daily, I like playing rogue so I chose to go to casual. Gues what, I met 2 fkin agro shamans in a row I just had to concide, cuz this doomhammer is so stupid..(you know 2 pyroblast on turn 6/7)
After that I was so angry(I don't play face decks btw)so I pick shaman too. This time my oponent was mage with new skin. You know what happend? He concede right after muligan I didn't do anything besides picking shaman  , so gg Blizzard xD.
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markmasters
Famous Hero
Dragon of justice
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posted May 06, 2016 09:28 AM |
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If you keep meeting shamans tech in harrison jones (or an ooze).
It's also good vs warriors gorehowl and theres use versus rogues and hunter. But if you draw 6 cards from doomhammer they insta concede 
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emilsn91
Supreme Hero
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posted May 06, 2016 11:34 AM |
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The meta (if you could even talk about there being one) is so random..  I love it and hate it. Nothing is predictable and the only decks that work with great succes is the shamans 
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anti-victor
Adventuring Hero
Disciples 2 Map Creator
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posted May 06, 2016 11:41 AM |
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markmasters said:
If you keep meeting shamans tech in harrison jones (or an ooze).
It's also good vs warriors gorehowl and theres use versus rogues and hunter. But if you draw 6 cards from doomhammer they insta concede
Yeah maybe even both for all the hate xD. But sometimes i feel like I'm dead anyway or didn't draw my weapon removal. Need to try it tho, cuz like every two games its shaman now for me at least.
Also not only gorehowl, this "face is the place" pirate warrior..
In general it seems to me ppl like to win fast thats all x)
And I like slower games, I like to relax when I'm playing sth, yeah thats why I enjoy this forum/H3/Disciples 2/Age of Wonders 3 when heartstone trying to piss me off 
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Minion
Legendary Hero
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posted May 06, 2016 12:28 PM |
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markmasters said:
Countless of fun decks around! But What are the deck you guys succeeded and cimbing ladder with?
I am laddering with N'Zoth Paladin mostly, because I crafted Tirion and N'Zoth as my last 2 Legendaries So have to try them out.
In addition I play some C'thun Zoo and Dragon-Elize Priest.
I am not really aiming high at the moment though, I usually wait for the last weeks on season to push it over the top (to rank 5 in my case)
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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted May 06, 2016 06:51 PM |
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Edited by blob2 at 20:08, 06 May 2016.
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I know all too well that I've had a lot of luck in many games (like Secret Pally not drawing his MC through entire game, or winning with 1HP left etc), but it's just unreal how some decks have the upper hand over others. I think Zoo is the best example: the only way to stop their onslaught as a Control player is through boardclears. So what? Forbidden Summoning or Implosion with Warlock and his board is reclaimed. And there's Power Overwhelming (or that f* Abusive Seargeant!) which is always the trump card either for removing your Taunt or finishing you off, because the dmg done to you (even if healing) through all those turns (via spammed minions) in which your trying to estabilish your board is enough. 5HP left for him? He plays Defender of Argus and because you've used up all your boardclears you can't push through his Taunts (and that Fireball sits on the bottom of your deck). Why not play Warlock then? Because I want to play something new, and Zoo is the the epitome of boring cause it's all over the place... same with Aggro Shaman or Tempo Mage (though at least Mage is somehow always fun to play). Yeah, beating your opponent with ease can be fun in its own way (or at least effective), but this entire game is so based on luck and on certain patterns (for example faster deck will beat slower ones like 3:1 imo) that it can destroy any fun you have with it in an instant. It's so irritating when the worst case scenario plays exactly how you have forseen it (you have board control, and opponent has one card left? Yeah "must be" Flamestrike :/), yet because your not certain you try to struggle. The rule of this game is to always assume the worst case scenario, but doing nothing (like holding those minions) might also lead you to a loss...
For now, despite all those people playing easy-to-win decks (even in Casual for fs!), I'm trying to use some original decks, but because grinding takes so much time (gotta have those packs ) I'm leaning more and more towards building some cancer decks (the ghost of that Secret Pala which I didn't "craft" still lingers )... though lately I have no luck with any type of decks: when aggro opponent shots me with a topdecked spell, when Control a Freeze Mage makes an OTK with his iffin' combo-wombo!
Some people play Dark Souls III for it, I play this game to get my daily need of salt
PS: Oh, and the guy who invented the concept of mill decks should rot in hell!
PS 2: Thanks community, now you've made me play Zoo Warlock myself. With great effect of course...
PS 3: Why does the game queue me up with the same opponents over and over again? There's nothing more irritating then facing the same Aggro Shaman twice in a row...
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emilsn91
Supreme Hero
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posted May 06, 2016 10:29 PM |
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To be honest Blob, I think that Zoo has changed or at least been given new minions that make the decks seem more fresh. Yes, they are impossible to stop and I got wrecked pretty badly today as well. But the aggro shaman is still the worst. I had one of them for half a game, but then he just overpowered me with those stupid 7/7 and flame-totem..
The shaman is cancer now.. And I must say the new deathrattle-healadin with Ragnaros and N'zoth is annoying as hell, but I find it fascinating and I am thinking of making one myself. The deck is on hearthpwn, some dude has really made a great deck that can control a game for a very long time.
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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted May 07, 2016 10:40 AM |
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Edited by blob2 at 11:37, 07 May 2016.
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I know Zoo changed (a bit), but the problem is it's so all-over-the-place. It's the same situation as with the last pre-wotog months. Same decks over and over again cause after a (short) period of experimenting figured taht cancer decks work better...
So now we have an abundance of Secret Pallies, Aggro Shamans, Zoo Warlocks and Face Hunters (which lost a few tools in Standard but it's all well thanks to Call of the Wild :/) in Wild. These past few days I haven't seen any of the "new" archetypes like C'Thun Priest or N'Zoth Rouge...
But how can I be surprised if my gold grinding sped up so much more after I switched to Zoo Warlock myself...
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anti-victor
Adventuring Hero
Disciples 2 Map Creator
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posted May 07, 2016 01:04 PM |
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blob2 said:
I know Zoo changed (a bit), but the problem is it's so all-over-the-place.
Yeah, since on reddit you can go to metasnapshot, where zoo is tier one deck, not suprise its "all over the place"
Btw guys I now play Dragon Warrior, with ooze tech like markmasters said. And didn't see any shamans xD Like what the heck
But I also tech in ghoul in my deck and destroy zoo. ASTONISHING!!! xD
Have to admit alextrasza champion and ghoul MVP of the deck, especialy early Tempo mage easy when they fireball my twilight guardian
Even priest who entomb my dragonlord deathwing, then right after play him, then mindcontrol my chromagus(yes im using him cuz i dont have grom yet ;p but its dragon and 8 mana curve) had to concede when my real deathwing came to board xD
C'tun druid destroyd on turn 7 lol..even double klaxxi didn't stop my alex champion
So I feel sth like playing rogue, so much tempo, boarcontrol and presence Ofcourse its only couple of games cuz you know not anough time today..Or maybe I'm just lucky with draws but with my greedy keep azure drake every game idk..
5-0 games win streak
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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted May 07, 2016 01:46 PM |
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@anti-victor
Can you post your Dragon Warrior deck here? I myself have been playing a Dragon Taunt hybrid Warrior since TGT came out. It's been evolving ever since with various effects (I'm still using Varian in it ), but I'm thinking of creating a strictly Dragon Warrior deck. Alex Champion is one of the best two drops (if not the best) in Dragon decks so Warrior just screams Dragons Another Dragon deck would justify crafting Dragonlord even more (I'm already playing D Paladin and D Priest and the said D Taunt deck). My understanding is that your quite satisfied with him?
From what I've seen, aside from some really cancerous decks, Dragons have quite a strong position in nowadays meta...
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anti-victor
Adventuring Hero
Disciples 2 Map Creator
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posted May 07, 2016 05:24 PM |
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blob2 said:
@anti-victor Can you post your Dragon Warrior deck here?
Hey Blob
Funny thing is Lifecoach had same idea as me, I mean to - stand against shamans and he was trying to build dragon warrior deck. He also mention that shamans minions got 3 HP and waraxe, alex champ, corruptor, monkey etc. are good for that. And same as me he didin't que up into any shaman hahaha xD (never lucky xD). So I think you probably run sth similar to him as you mention about Warian.
Here you go its his list and above my:
2x Blood to ichor
2x Execute
2x Fiery War Axe
2x Alex Champ
2x Armorsmith
1x King's Defender
2x Fierce monkey
1x Raveging Ghoul
2x Bloodhoof
2x Twilight Guardian
1x Brawl
2x Azure Drake
2x Blackwing Corruptor
1x Emperor Thaurissan
1x Obsidian Destroyer
1x Ragnaros
1x Alextrasza
1x Onyxia
1x Ysera
1x Warian Wryn
He also mention that he sometimes run out of cards, I saw this only in mirror match (warrior vs warrior) so don't know how often it happends.
And here is my list:
2x Blood to ichor
2x Execute
2x Fiery War Axe
2x Slam
2x Alex Champ
1x Cruel Task
1x Ooze (tech by markmasters)
2x Bash
2x Acolyte of Pain
1x Blackwing Technician
1x Raveging Ghoul (my tech)
2x Twilight Guardian
2x Azure Drake
2x Blackwing Corruptor
1x Drakonid Crusher (maybe thaurissan/sylvanas would be ok, need tests)
1x Chillmaw (love this dragon, the art, ability - my fav thats why he is here)
1x Chromagus but (making dust for Grom here ;p)
1x Nefarian
1x Dragonlord
1x Deathwing
About last dragons you can easy swap them, I'm just testing those Deathwings. Dragonlord doing not much for me at least for now, also get 2 copies from packs and one of them give me good value of dust, too bad we don't have some trading in heartstone I would give you one haha Onyxia/Alex/Ysera are probably good for replace.
Also as you can see my deck has more card draw than Lifecoach, for those "lucky top d*cks" but his deck is more taunt oriented.
I must say I was amazed how smooth my deck was played for me (didn't test Lifecoach version yet cuz just watch it), I'm not warrior player tho, you know my golden Valeera would be jealous a bit ;p but overall yeah it was rly cool to play, my lucky day I guess cuz no shamans haha
Edit: Was thinking about new warrior legendary (aka curse blade xD) but since I don't have Grom, probably won't craft Malkorok anyway, but do you guys think it could even work here?
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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted May 07, 2016 08:42 PM |
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Edited by blob2 at 09:45, 08 May 2016.
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anti-victor said:
Edit: Was thinking about new warrior legendary (aka curse blade xD) but since I don't have Grom, probably won't craft Malkorok anyway, but do you guys think it could even work here?
Thanks for the decklist. Craft Gromm don't even think about those other Legendaries. He works in any possible Warrior deck as a finisher (great value with Varian ). Malkorok is pure RNG whereas Gromm with Inner Rage or even Cruel Taskmaster is a game winner. I crafted him myself and never regreted it...
EDIT: Malkorok is one of those "nice to have in pack but not crafting material" Legendaries. I'm yet to even see him in the actual game...
Sigh, getting that Legendary in a pack is taking so long. Nothing but crap packs lately (fortunately with some cards that I've missed, I already have one of all the new Hunter Rares - N'Zoth Hunter is getting closer ).
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emilsn91
Supreme Hero
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posted May 08, 2016 11:22 AM |
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Hmm... I just lack almost all of the big dragons.. So annoying but the decklist looks pretty cool. Could Y'sharr work in the deck? ( I know he sucks, but I just wanna see him in play).
Things got a little funny in Wild today. Playing my Reno-Mage and I had a Sylvanas (I had it dublicated) which got hold of the Paletress and then I just started making golden Legendaries.
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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted May 08, 2016 12:35 PM |
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I've seen Y'Shaarj just once. In a kind of Ancestor Call Shaman deck. Of course he pulled him with the said spell, followed by a Ragnaros. GG turn 5
I also see a Thermaplugg on the screen which reminds me of a game I lost when an opponent Druid played him late game. I was ahead but he made so many Lepper Gnomes that I couldn't deal with them (especially those Deathrattles). This shows that experimenting with decks can be interesting, and that's what Wild should be about. I'm not salty about these kind of losses. In contradiction to those f*cking Secret Paladins...
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anti-victor
Adventuring Hero
Disciples 2 Map Creator
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posted May 08, 2016 01:54 PM |
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blob2 said:
EDIT: Malkorok is one of those "nice to have in pack but not crafting material" Legendaries. I'm yet to even see him in the actual game...
Thought the same. Grom is all day long first to go for sure
emilsn91 said:
I just lack almost all of the big dragons.. So annoying but the decklist looks pretty cool.
Thanks Emilsn91, I think you have to like and enjoy dragons to make decks with them. I also don't have some of them like ysera/nozdormu, but when I start this game my first legendary from pack was Onyxia, so I stayed with dragons from that point ^^
I'm now at 11-1 with my deck, met 3 c'thun druids, one guy was lucky with fast ramp he was 3 mana crystals ahead. But if his klaxxi and Ragnaros(12 dmg) didn't hit my face over Dragonlord I should win that cuz Deathwing would came without battlecry and I will be able to play other cards to stop klaxxi . Also guy topdeck Azure drake into swipe leathal..
Warlock game also was funny 7 tentacles vs Dragonlord when Warlock was at 12 HP and I was over 20 Luckerdog tap into taunt. I had Chroamgus in hand, so if this would be mentioned Grom - easy game over for him. I also get some luck and draw Blackwing corruptor who get rid of voidwalker thanks to dragon synergy, and I could atack with sweet Dragonlord
Priest games always intense need to always play around cabal/death/entombs. After I dealt with his 17dmg C'thun, he played my Deathwing from thoughtsteal (I feel like my big dragons always betray me in this match up). Priest already was at 6HP so Blood Ichor into execute and droping Chillmaw made him concede
Also get some C'thun warrior and kind of midrage hunter but games didn't go long (thx to early Alex champ )
emilsn91 said:
Could Y'sharr work in the deck? ( I know he sucks, but I just wanna see him in play).
Idk for sure as you can read my stories I'm currently able to play 10 mana stuff. I dont own Old Gods besides C'thun, I cant test that ;( Also would't be better to put Varian in warrior for his effect?
Best place is probably in druid deck where you can ramp up or play with Naga/Aviana.
Still no shamans
Edit: Btw Blob are you using Rend/Rag Lightlord in your D Paladin deck? I'm curious
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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted May 08, 2016 05:47 PM |
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Edited by blob2 at 17:50, 08 May 2016.
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anti-victor said:
Also would't be better to put Varian in warrior for his effect?
Varians weakness is that you don't you know what he will draw, for instance he can only draw spells or a weak minion which isn't very useful late game. Y'Shaarj is guaranteed 10 mana minion so his better I think. I only made D Taunt Warrior with a lot of Taunts around Varian cause the idea was that he'll summon at least one, so if I'd survived I could counter next turn. Usually he works, but even so such a board is prone to bordclears. I believe Sogoth would fit very well into this deck btw
anti-victor said:
Edit: Btw Blob are you using Rend/Rag Lightlord in your D Paladin deck? I'm curious
My Dragon Paldin is a bit different. For a lack of better name, I would call it a tempo/on curve deck. It's more about overpowering opponents with an unstoppable flood of fat minions (they simply cannot keep up with removing all those high stat Dragons). And surely the deck works that way, all thanks to one of my favorite cards in the game: Dragon Consort (boy if she was a neutral, Dragons would rule the meta ). Of course it has a hard time with zoo decks but I still manage to grab some wins against them. On to your question: Rend would be too situational in this deck, I'm using him in my Dragon Priest which is a more controlish deck. I don't have Lightlord, maybe he would work here, but he would take one of the Dragons spot so that would mean less synergy... but I'm running Tirion his much better I think.
Also, Scaled Nightmare is as good as I expected him to be (I'm running him in my every Dragon deck now). His cheaper with Consort, and his only "Cabal" weakness can be overcomed with a cheap buff (that's why I'm using Divine Strenght atm). That 8 health of his works wonders for his survivability, and even if he gets removed, he's like a bait, makes it safer for other Dragons to come out
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markmasters
Famous Hero
Dragon of justice
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posted May 08, 2016 06:17 PM |
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Nice dragon warrior list! I think acoloyte is a good addition i'm gonna try as well.
I'll post my list and experiences soon. Also tried out an dragon warrior
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emilsn91
Supreme Hero
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posted May 09, 2016 09:15 AM |
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Quote:
Varians weakness is that you don't you know what he will draw, for instance he can only draw spells or a weak minion which isn't very useful late game. Y'Shaarj is guaranteed 10 mana minion so his better I think
Have not thought of that, because I would also argue that Varian is a better choice. Sadly I believe that Ysharr would just be removed within one round.
Blob I am glad to hear that Scaled nightmare is working out for you. I had my doubts with that one. Have any of you tried Midnight Dragon?
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markmasters
Famous Hero
Dragon of justice
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posted May 09, 2016 06:15 PM |
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I tried midnight dragon but I rather run twilight since it's a kinda controllish deck after all and even he did not make the cut for me.
Also I want to emphisize, either though Varian draws random stuff, He is a good addition to the deck. He would draw a big dragon sealing the game often (I kinda run a greedy list).
Here's my (definitive) list:
Decklist dragon warrior
Currently at rank 9 and slowly rising
Why I did add certain cards:
Deathwing, simply the biggest thread your dragonlord can bring onto the field and an insane pull by varian too. It also helps as a last reserve
Ysera: Not sure about her, but she is so sturdy and powerfull but so slow, It's simply the best entomb bait for a priest btw and if they already stole something they will not be able to get rid of your next turn deathwing dragonlord.
Taunts for early presence and favorable trading, blood to Icchor seems to be a very neat card in the expansion for either bringing something with 4 hp into range of your war axe (and creating a 2/2) or you can even ping your own acoloyte for a card draw and adding a minion
The azure drakes are kinda lackluster since except for blood to ichor there are no damaging spells, but I don't know a better option to get card draws :/
Edit: I removed the blackwing corruptor and added Baron Geddon for some more board clear presence vs pesty classes as zoo and spammadin.
Although I think blackwing corruptor is a very powerfull card, it's main goal was to kill off something with 3 hp for which you this deck has plenty of taunts already
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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted May 09, 2016 09:21 PM |
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Edited by blob2 at 22:43, 09 May 2016.
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@markmasters
Your deck seems interesting, I'll soon think of something myself, cause ultimately I'll probably craft that Dragonlord (still waiting for a Legendary in pack :/). My Taunt Warrior deck is solid, but unfortunately for a Dragon deck to work I need more Dragons, and too much slots are taken by Taunt minions. I quite often face a situation in which I don't have a Dragon in my hand and thus my early game suffers (Alex Champions :/).
Btw I never said Varian is bad. He's the first Legendary I crafted from TgT and never regretted it.
Oh, and because lately I've got a lot of missing Hunter cards from WotoG in packs I finally created that Rattle N'Zoth deck. It could use Hurahan and Call of the Wild (which I'll probably craft), but I have to make do with substitutes for now. Although this deck is supposedly wrecked by the aggro/zoo meta (what decks aren't :/) it's quite fun to play. And using Feign Death (oh how I wanted to finally make this card work ) on Sylvanas when my opponent had only Antonidas on board and conceded afterwards was pure win
PS: I'm seriously thinking of taking a break from this game. Two weeks is what it took for things to go back how they were before WotoG. Want to play for fun with experimental decks: "Who am I?"; "Everyone get in here!"; "Your soul shall suffer!"; "Need a light?". Rinse and repeat. 0-10. Need some wins? Grab a Zoo Warlock! Seriously opening packs is the only thing which still keeps me going...
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