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emilsn91
emilsn91


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posted May 10, 2016 01:07 PM

blob2 said:

Oh, and because lately I've got a lot of missing Hunter cards from WotoG in packs I finally created that Rattle N'Zoth deck. It could use Hurahan and Call of the Wild (which I'll probably craft), but I have to make do with substitutes for now. Although this deck is supposedly wrecked by the aggro/zoo meta (what decks aren't :/) it's quite fun to play. And using Feign Death (oh how I wanted to finally make this card work ) on Sylvanas when my opponent had only Antonidas on board and conceded afterwards was pure win

PS: I'm seriously thinking of taking a break from this game. Two weeks is what it took for things to go back how they were before WotoG. Want to play for fun with experimental decks: "Who am I?"; "Everyone get in here!"; "Your soul shall suffer!"; "Need a light?". Rinse and repeat. 0-10. Need some wins? Grab a Zoo Warlock! Seriously opening packs is the only thing which still keeps me going...



Hunter decks! Now I can join in Well Feign death is actually a really good substitute for Huhuran. Though she is a good thing to craft. I must say that Deathrattle hunter is not as powerful as first imagined. The meta is just not favouring my kind.
Though I still get my wins and I still find it a really funny deck. You can also look for Sparklez deathrattle hunter. Good inspiration.

May I suggest intead of quitting, just play every second-third days - Then you have three quests to complete and then you can take a few day off again. Because I feel you there is not a lot of fun in this meta.. It is too shaky and if you lack those essential cards you are going to have a bad time.

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Blob-Ohmos the Second
posted May 10, 2016 06:17 PM
Edited by blob2 at 23:27, 10 May 2016.

@emilsn91
Yeah I've seen Sparklez deck, mine is similiar, but I prefer some other cards for now (sometimes it's so hard to decide, so many cards can potentially work and there's only 30 slots ). I think the biggest issue for my deck atm is that I lack Call of the Wild, cause it's a great finisher/comeback card. I'll probably craft it in the near future. And Feign Death is a unique card, especially with Sylvanas, who so far didn't quite fit in Hunter decks, but now with the Rattle Archetype(?) it's a great combo, more effective then Hurahan play.

And no, my problem is not that I lack essential cards (well maybe a few, but I could craft them). I could make decks like Patron Warrior or Freeze Mage. My problem is that I hate this netdeck over-populated meta. I know that some people like to pick effective decks and play competetively, but I'm more of a type that likes to play less conventional decks, and jump from one deck to another over the course of my single play session. It's fine to loose some games with those experimental decks, but when you consecutively loose game after game because your facing NOTHING but netdecks, which by definition are more succesfull, or loosing because opponent plays an OP card like Dr Overload 7/7 to whom you have no answer (so basically balancing issues, some cards will always be better then others), then you become frustrated like me. Yeah I'll probably need some longer breaks between play sessions, but unfortunately I'm addicted to opening packs so I need to open one at least every 1-2 days (it's possible cause I'm getting a lot of 60 gold dailies lately)

EDIT: Well, the game redeemed itself somewhat today. Won a game in which a Face Hunter was 1HP close of lethal, and another in which a f*cking Mill Rouge who spammed Deathlords like crazy (Shadowstepped them each time a reduced their life) lost in the end cause I had exact lethal . Zoo Warlock rulez Also a solid pack today with 4 cards for my collection (2 Rares and Commons, but finally got Evolve ).

EDIT 2: Hmm, I didn't know that C'Thun minions with the 10 health effect get their bonus multiplied for each 10 health. So if your C'Thun has 20 accumaulated health, a Klaxxi Amber-Weaver will be a 4/15 minion when played

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posted May 11, 2016 08:05 AM

blob2 said:
@emilsn91
EDIT 2: Hmm, I didn't know that C'Thun minions with the 10 health effect get their bonus multiplied for each 10 health. So if your C'Thun has 20 accumaulated health, a Klaxxi Amber-Weaver will be a 4/15 minion when played




 As far as I know this only happens with Brann on the field as he doubles the Battle Cry effects.  All C'Thun minions have Battle Cry.
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emilsn91


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posted May 11, 2016 01:23 PM

Grr.. I am at a loss here.. I only have good cards for a Hunter-Standard deck. I actually lack a lot of essential cards for C'thun, Divine Pala, Dragon decks and healadin..

I cannot figure out if I should spend dust on crafting rares, epics and legendaries .. It will take all my dust to complete C'thun priest + one pala deck..

I am just not getting the cards I need in packs.. It is annoying

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Blob-Ohmos the Second
posted May 11, 2016 06:00 PM

EvilLoynis said:
As far as I know this only happens with Brann on the field as he doubles the Battle Cry effects.  All C'Thun minions have Battle Cry.


Oh yeah, that's probably the cause. This guy might've had Brann on board at that time. Silly me

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Daddy Cool with a $90 smile
posted May 11, 2016 10:27 PM

So the new tavern brawl is here. Pick two cards, deck's full of them. Went with Nerubian Egg + Whirlwind, trounced some fools. Good times.
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emilsn91


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posted May 11, 2016 10:39 PM

Lord_Woock said:
So the new tavern brawl is here. Pick two cards, deck's full of them. Went with Nerubian Egg + Whirlwind, trounced some fools. Good times.


New brawl is fun. I saw the mage combo: Mirror Image + Mana wyrm. Pretty good combo.

I won my match with animal companion + Fiery Bat = Not a good combo

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Blob-Ohmos the Second
posted May 11, 2016 11:20 PM
Edited by blob2 at 20:11, 12 May 2016.

All right Boyz, sh*t just got epic after todays Brawl:



Meh competetive wise, but I really wanted King Krush since I first saw him, so I'm super happy. And Tinkmaster 'makes' Devilsaurs, so guess Blizzard made a little joke here

Oh and got the pack thanks to a Soulfire+Fist of Jaraxxus deck on my second try (first one lost to Mana Wyrm+Frostbolt Mage, cause Fist didn't hit face on lethal...)

EDIT: Btw this weeks Brawl is idiotic because of one single card: Ice Block. The Ice Block + Fireball combo is unbeatable, it's only two real weaknesses being: not drawing enough Ice Blocks to survive until finishing off your opponent with a Fireball or if you meet an opponent with the same combination of cards (the first one to concede or fatigue in this case wins ). No wonder my friend told me that it's fast (kinda) 30 wins I wonder why people even bother trying different combos...

Oh yeah, and I crafted Call of the Wild. OP as f*ck!

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emilsn91


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posted May 12, 2016 08:44 PM

Awesome pack! Not that I find those legendaries good or useful But  always awesome to get two legendaries.

The brawl is great. I have not tried that trick, but it sounds good. So you are basically farming brawl?

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Blob-Ohmos the Second
posted May 12, 2016 08:51 PM
Edited by blob2 at 13:40, 15 May 2016.

emilsn91 said:
The brawl is great. I have not tried that trick, but it sounds good. So you are basically farming brawl?


It took me around an hour to farm 90 gold (darn limit ) with the Ice Block + Fireball combo. I'm yet to even loose one game with it... but maybe I didn't meet a counter deck. Potentially that Innervate + Oracle combo would work maybe, cause if I lost all my Fireballs due to hand size I wouldn't have had the means to finish my opponent (and in consequence die due to fatigue without Ice Blocks).

EDIT: OK, so I've met the natural counter for my deck. Druid Innervate + Loatheb

EDIT: Hmm the brawl netted me a lot of gold, by far the most I ever had wit ha brawl. I also tried some other pairs and even managed to get some wins with them (Shaman with Evolve was quite fun) but at the end of the day the Ice Block + Fireball combo works the best. It's a good thing the brawl is ending though because Bolster Warrior and the said I+F Mage became dominant, so this is starting to become too tedious. Bolster W is winnible but it drags, and it comes down to how much Ice Blocks you draw. I've lost quite a few duels because I was getting only Fireballs (f*cking Armor Up! makes you draw a lot more of them). Mirror match I usually concede cause it drags far too long...

I'm dissapointed in some people though. I mean c'mon, they know you can't possibly win with Ice Block Mage with some decks, like Mana Wyrm for instance, so why not concede? And don't tell me they don't know what's going on when they see a secret played turn 3. So why the hell drag this? That's just BM are stupidity...  

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posted May 16, 2016 10:44 AM

Anyone watching Hearthstone Europe Spring championship? I am betting on Crane333 because he is danish.

Crafted Ragnaros today, the classic one. I have decided to focus more on standard legendaries as I am only buying Old Gods packs anyway and might get one of those legendaries from those packs.

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Blob-Ohmos the Second
posted May 16, 2016 06:10 PM

emilsn91 said:
Anyone watching Hearthstone Europe Spring championship? I am betting on Crane333 because he is danish.


No. Took a quick look on the decklists but it's netdecks, netdecks everywhere

emilsn91 said:
Crafted Ragnaros today, the classic one. I have decided to focus more on standard legendaries as I am only buying Old Gods packs anyway and might get one of those legendaries from those packs.


Correct choice. Good ol' Rag will never get old. There are still two more classic Legendaries high on my list: Al'Akir and Cairne. I think that I'll craft at least two more Legendaries from WotoG (Dragonlord and probably Xaril), and then maybe I'll proceed to crafting them... I would like to craft some more WotoG Legendaries, but figured they're less versatile then the classic ones.

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posted May 17, 2016 08:06 AM

I love Cairne I am so glad he is back with Standard. He was out of the loop for a year or so.. I suggest crafting him, he has been one of my best cards from the beginning.

And sure you could go ahead and craft some wotog, but as I wrote I came to the conclusion that I needed more classic legendaries and I only buy new packs anyway.

Any of you have a good warlock deck? I have 10 battles to win.. and I have no luck with netdecks (either missing cards or simply not my style of play)

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Blob-Ohmos the Second
posted May 17, 2016 07:02 PM
Edited by blob2 at 20:09, 17 May 2016.

Well I think Al'Akir will be the first one to craft. He was always this kind of in-and-out-of-the-meta Legendary, but I really could use his additional burst. Shaman has a hard time reclaiming the board, so if your opponent is down to low health you need to finish him quickly... Cairne is really solid and I love this character, but it's not that I lack 6 mana drops in decks

@emilsn91
Good Warlock deck? Well I'm playing a version of cancerous Zoo, but in Wild so it uses cards like Dark Bomb, N-Eggs or Imp-losion. I have the best results from my all my decks with it (like 70%?), but sometimes bad draw does not let me win (lack of finisher, PO to remove a threat etc). If you want I can give you a decklist, but I doubt it's that much different from decks that run around lately...

Yesterday I became really frustrated in Standard with Reno Handlock. I was playing Totem/Evolve Shaman and I lost two times in a row with very similiar decks and almost in the exact same style (though with different opponets)! A lot of removals like Hellfire, a mandatory Reno, followed by Twisting Nether (or Mountain Giant + Shadowflame :/) which crushed my board each time (and in the first duel I had a realy strong board with OTK even after Reno). One of them used some kind of Dragon hybrid deck, and countered my dr. 4 7/7 with the new +atk Drake (he became 8/4) He even had a teched-in Ooze to counter Doomhammers, which he did Who said Handlock was dead? Maybe you should try it, it's also really cancerous=effective.

PS: Oh dat Paladin, giving me so much hardships in Wild with his perfect curve (even if not Secret Pally). Btw I think in Wild I could really use that Eater of Secrets, which I don't have unfortunately... I wonder why he's not that popular, Secret Pally is all over the place still... I ought to craft him, even if only to troll those darn Secret Pallies   They deserve it!

PS 2: Unfortunately KK is as useful as everyone says. It's not a bad card, but like people say, he does not have a place in any Hunter deck atm. Hunter went into Deathrattle territory so he does not fit here because he lacks synergy (I would like to try him with Bestial Wrath which costs 1 mana, but I don't have it). But maybe I should try him in there?

Playing him in Face Hunter (which btw has become quite weak recently, at least from my experience) I'm yet to even play him from hand once. He's simply too slow for this deck, even as a finisher, cause the longer it takes Hunter to finish his opponent the bigger the chance you'll lose. The only time he won me a game is when he was fished out with a Deathlord from a Priest deck CotW is so much better. Of course that does not mean I'm not happy with getting him from a pack I still don't have any ideas for Overspark though...

EDIT: Got Hogger, Doom of Elwynn from a pack. Guess his not mind-blowing, but I think he'll find his uses. I crafted Dragonlord afterwards of course

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emilsn91
emilsn91


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posted May 18, 2016 08:48 AM

blob2 said:

@emilsn91
Good Warlock deck? Well I'm playing a version of cancerous Zoo, but in Wild so it uses cards like Dark Bomb, N-Eggs or Imp-losion. I have the best results from my all my decks with it (like 70%?), but sometimes bad draw does not let me win (lack of finisher, PO to remove a threat etc). If you want I can give you a decklist, but I doubt it's that much different from decks that run around lately...

Yesterday I became really frustrated in Standard with Reno Handlock. I was playing Totem/Evolve Shaman and I lost two times in a row with very similiar decks and almost in the exact same style (though with different opponets)! A lot of removals like Hellfire, a mandatory Reno, followed by Twisting Nether (or Mountain Giant + Shadowflame :/) which crushed my board each time (and in the first duel I had a realy strong board with OTK even after Reno). One of them used some kind of Dragon hybrid deck, and countered my dr. 4 7/7 with the new +atk Drake (he became 8/4) He even had a teched-in Ooze to counter Doomhammers, which he did Who said Handlock was dead? Maybe you should try it, it's also really cancerous=effective.

PS: Oh dat Paladin, giving me so much hardships in Wild with his perfect curve (even if not Secret Pally). Btw I think in Wild I could really use that Eater of Secrets, which I don't have unfortunately... I wonder why he's not that popular, Secret Pally is all over the place still... I ought to craft him, even if only to troll those darn Secret Pallies   They deserve it!

PS 2: Unfortunately KK is as useful as everyone says. It's not a bad card, but like people say, he does not have a place in any Hunter deck atm. Hunter went into Deathrattle territory so he does not fit here because he lacks synergy (I would like to try him with Bestial Wrath which costs 1 mana, but I don't have it). But maybe I should try him in there?

Playing him in Face Hunter (which btw has become quite weak recently, at least from my experience) I'm yet to even play him from hand once. He's simply too slow for this deck, even as a finisher, cause the longer it takes Hunter to finish his opponent the bigger the chance you'll lose. The only time he won me a game is when he was fished out with a Deathlord from a Priest deck CotW is so much better. Of course that does not mean I'm not happy with getting him from a pack I still don't have any ideas for Overspark though...

EDIT: Got Hogger, Doom of Elwynn from a pack. Guess his not mind-blowing, but I think he'll find his uses. I crafted Dragonlord afterwards of course


So much to comment on! I found a cheap zoo deck yesterday that got my quest done. I had tried a super budget one that just didn't do it for me, and I had tried this Reno-warlock, and I cannot figure out a renowarlock.. I am great at reno-mage.. but last deck I used worked fine. Swaming the board go for face.. (boring, yet effective). I guess my main reason for sucking at warlock is my lack of giants.. I have 1 .. and it is molten.

The paladin subject! Screw secret paladins! I had hoped standard would have removed them, but no they live on in wild as a plague.. Maybe eater of secrets weakness is the same as Kezan Mystique? To situational, and eater of secrets has a worse body..
The chance of meeting a secret-pala, mage or hunter might be limited and if the opponent does not run secrets, you just have a bad card.

KK is way too slow.. sadly.. And hunter in general is not so awesome atm. It is like something is missing..

Hogger is cool, but I would wanted the strong body, but with old effect instead. Do update us when you have tried dragon lord


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Blob-Ohmos the Second
posted May 18, 2016 05:46 PM

Sorry for the wall of text, but I usually have a lot to say about this game and always end up writing too much

On the subject of Warlock I figure it's always nice to have at least one cancer deck. In those days in which I simply can't win with any of my custom decks I switch cancer decks to earn a few wins (though sometimes even those decks have problems). I also dislike Reno-Warlock. Reno is a good deck when played on curve. You have answers for everything. Of course when I play it Reno either sits on the bottom of the deck or I lack removals. Also, not having Twisting Nether is also a problem for me, as it's probably the greatest removal for this type of deck.

Back to the subject of cancer decks. I figure most people use Secret Pally, a cancer deck, for the same reasons as me: to grind. I don't mind this, you can't criticize someone for doing the same thing as you, but what I (and most salty players) are angry about is that SP is simply so unfare. You can't win against it without a specific type of deck (or incredible curve).

In contradiction to your opinion @emil what I find good about Eater of Secrets is his 4 health which is better then Kezans 3 hp. Additionaly he 'eats up' all enemy secrets so he's the perfect counter for SP, cause mugging only one secret with Kezan is not enough for him. EoS not only destroys all secrets, but buffs up enough to kill off the remaining MC A card closest to EoS is Hunters Flare, but EoS has a body so when facing decks with no secrets at all he's at least that, whereas Flare is useless most of the time. If I'll get him in a pack I'll imidiately gonna test him in Wild.

I've finally split my Dragon Taunt Warrior into two decks: Taunt Warrior and Dragon Warrior Hogger and Dragonlord were the impulses for this Hoggers ability might not be that good but I'll try to combine him with Sparing Partner. Giving him Taunt just might work for the better.

Dragonlord is great! Well, there are times when I won't play him cause matches with aggro end sooner , but I can already tell he's badass. The thing I didn't take into account before is that his such a great tempo push. You see, what I assumed is that it's nice to have an Ysera or the first Deathwing played for free when the first one is killed (so you still keep the board). You know: one fat Dragon gets killed, another hops into his place. But what I didn't think about before is that he enables you to play Dragons which 'accumulate' in your hand. Because Dragons are pricey, you usually aren't able to play all of them through the course of the whole match cause you simply lack mana for it. But now I don't have to worry about it. What was Dragon decks biggest weakness (Dragons being too pricey) is, to some extent, not a problem anymore This of course has its downsides (mainly boardclears like Twisting Nether) but I guess you can't help them. It's such a tempo swing that I missed an OTK in the process and my opponent won (cause I wasn't prepared for the fact that I could do so much dmg )

PS: Turns out I made another wall of text

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posted May 18, 2016 07:11 PM

Quote:
I also dislike Reno-Warlock. Reno is a good deck when played on curve. You have answers for everything. Of course when I play it Reno either sits on the bottom of the deck or I lack removals. Also, not having Twisting Nether is also a problem for me, as it's probably the greatest removal for this type of deck.


I have all the cards needed (maybe I miss one or two, but no removals). The issue is that I can not last long enough due to drawing wrong cards or worse removals. Whereas when playing mage you have frost nova, blizzard, flamestrike and other single CC spells + iceblock. It just works better. Maybe it is my lack of experience or overall level as a player

Quote:
In contradiction to your opinion @emil what I find good about Eater of Secrets is his 4 health which is better then Kezans 3 hp. Additionaly he 'eats up' all enemy secrets so he's the perfect counter for SP, cause mugging only one secret with Kezan is not enough for him. EoS not only destroys all secrets, but buffs up enough to kill off the remaining MC   A card closest to EoS is Hunters Flare, but EoS has a body so when facing decks with no secrets at all he's at least that, whereas Flare is useless most of the time. If I'll get him in a pack I'll imidiately gonna test him in Wild.


I rest my case. You have a point. I could maybe try and make a deck with him. I have EoS already.

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What was Dragon decks biggest weakness (Dragons being too pricey) is, to some extent, not a problem anymore


True, and you might be right. But as far as I see it the dragondecks are still too slow? Or is all about early and midgame control, but if that is the case doesnt you miss out on something

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Blob-Ohmos the Second
posted May 18, 2016 11:21 PM
Edited by blob2 at 23:32, 18 May 2016.

blob2 said:
Also, not having Twisting Nether is also a problem for me, as it's probably the greatest removal for this type of deck.


Correction, got one from a pack today

emilsn91 said:
True, and you might be right. But as far as I see it the dragondecks are still too slow? Or is all about early and midgame control, but if that is the case doesnt you miss out on something


Unfortunately yes. I'm still tweaking early/midgame by trying out various low cost minions/spells. In case of Paladin 'A Light in Darkness' is a really nice spell, cause it's flexible. For instance, it won me one game cause I was able to pick a low cost Taunt minion so my opponent missed lethal. Great thing about this spell is that it adds +1/+1 so it might make even an otherwise useless minion quite effective. Also, 'Equality' + 'Consecration' is stronger then ever in todays meta, but it's obsolete with Dragons.

Dragons in general are really good, but I think they still miss some good effects. They have strong bodies, but it's not enough I'm afraid. It would be nice if there were more Dragons with various effects like healing (and I don't mean Alex type of healing) or dmg dealing (fire breath effect? like 'Flamecannon' )

Nevertheless I'm glad I crafted 'Dragonlord', I can try him in so many decks, and a Legendary is good when it can be used in many decks...

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posted May 19, 2016 09:38 AM

A light in the darkness is a really versatile card indeed. I have had a few good draws with it as well and that +1/+1 is insanely good, lower tier cards become as you say really useful.

Are you playing Pala or warrior? Because I still have this dream of making Yshaar working in a warrior deck..

I agree with you on the wish for more dragon cards with healing effects or dmg effects. It might sound boring, but it could boost a potential dragon themed deck. I like your idea with a random flamecannon dragon, or just a dragon version of Earthern Ring dude. And then more mid and early game dragons.

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posted May 19, 2016 06:15 PM

Dragon-wise I'm playing Paladin and Warrior, plus Priest to some extent. My Warrior deck faces the same problems as the Paladin one Too slow. Dragons would really use some anti-aggro low cost dragons. Or maybe a sticky deathrattle Dragon? Like an undead or corrupted Dragon? 'Faerie Dragon' is nice cause it's resistant to spells (no Frosbolt for you!) but that 2 HP is dreadful :/ Alex Ch is nice but it's a class card :/ And there's that Priest Taunt, but as with all synergy cards bad draw might make it useless... That's not enough, because of this we're forced to try some non-dragon minions with varying effects.  

Hmm, I thought about making Y'Shaarj work (even go as far as crafting him), but not until I've seen him in action. And he's not good I'm afraid. When my opponent played him in a C'Thun deck he summoned a minion that lost him the game (a C'Thun deck is a bad combo tbh, what if he summons your C'Thun?). He would be better if he had something like 'summon a random 7+ cost minion'. That would probably make him useful in control. I wonder what happened to that Y'Shaarj + Aviana ramp Druid concept? Didn't see even one.

Varian is better afterall. Not game winning most of the time, but his effect makes me at the least survive a turn of two more...

Still can make Hogger work. But yesterday was a bad day in Hearthstone for me (well excluding getting that Twisting Nether ). I've lost like 10 games in a row (mainly to troll decks like Priest) so it was bad for experimenting

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