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Heroes Community > Tavern of the Rising Sun > Thread: Are myths truly just ledgends?
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Sir_Stiven
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posted April 07, 2002 11:58 PM

my stomach hurts
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arachnid
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posted April 08, 2002 12:22 AM

questions questions questions

Can anyone answer these questions for me as they are really troubling me......


"is it ok to laugh at people in hell when you are up in heaven?"

"wouldn't eternal bliss get boring after awhile?"

"If you were a masochist in life, wouldn't it be a reward to be sent to hell and punishment to be sent to heaven?"

"could god create a corn dog so big that even god couldn't eat it all?"

"If i spent all my time praying instead of studying,would i get better grades?"

"If money is the root of all evil, then how come we have to have jobs?"

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posted April 08, 2002 12:24 AM

The correct quote is "Love of money is the root of all evil".  which makes more sense.
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arachnid
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posted April 08, 2002 12:29 AM

how does cat no what the correct quote is if she does not know where i quoted it from?

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posted April 08, 2002 12:32 AM

It's the oldest saying in the book (and it's coz my mummy gets upset if I ever make a mistake and yells the correct one at me.. lool!!)
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Sir_Stiven
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posted April 08, 2002 12:34 AM

I think that Andi is the root of all evil...
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posted April 09, 2002 01:45 AM

Jeez, I didn't know this thread would turn out to be a big battle of the religions and stuff, I just posted it for fun.  I'm sorry.  Now here are some answers to your questions.

Quote:
Can anyone answer these questions for me as they are really troubling me......


"is it ok to laugh at people in hell when you are up in heaven?"
Sure, why not.  What else are you going to do for all eternity?

"wouldn't eternal bliss get boring after awhile?"
Well an old saying goes you can never have too much of a good thing but I suppose it all depends on what exactly that good thing is.

"If you were a masochist in life, wouldn't it be a reward to be sent to hell and punishment to be sent to heaven?"
Not really a reward.  A masochist is somone who gets pleasure from being offended, dominated, or mistreated.  Hell is supposed to be the ultimate punishment so if you were a masochist I suppose they would go without any sort of mistreatment for all eternity.

"could God create a corn dog so big that even God couldn't eat it all?"
God is all powerful, all mighty, and perfect.  I guess he could if he wanted to but why would he want to and if he did, wouldn't he have done it already?

"If i spent all my time praying instead of studying,would i get better grades?"
No.  There is never a guarantee that God will say yes to your prayers if they have to do with earthly blessings.Matthew 6:5-8

5. "And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full. 6. But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you. 7. And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. 8. Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him.

"If the love of money is the root of all evil, then how come we have to have jobs?"
Ecclesiastes 5:12

The sleep of a laborer is sweet, whether he eats little or much, but the abundance of a rich man permits him no sleep.

Genesis 3:17-19

17. "Cursed is the ground because of you; through painful toil you will eat of it all the days of your life. 18. It will produce thorns and thistles for you, and you will eat the plants of the field. 19. By the sweat of your brow you will eat your food until you return to the ground, since from it you were taken; for dust you are and to dust you will return."

Gen 3:23

So the LORD God banished him from the Garden of Eden to work the ground from which he had been taken.



Hope that answers your questions.
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arachnid
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posted April 09, 2002 01:47 PM
Edited By: arachnid on 9 Apr 2002

sweet
just a few more...........

"If i told a really,really good jokw,would it make god laugh?"
"once you're in heaven,do you get stuck wearing the clothes you were buried in for eternity?"

"If theres life on other planets,are there aliens in heaven too?"

"Is neanderthal man in heaven?"

"Do dinosaurs have souls?"

"If someones been decapitated, are they still headless in heaven?"

"Can the spirits of your dead relatives watch you when you're going to the bathroom?"

"Why did got create tape worms and dung beetles?"

"Is there yodeling in hell?"

"If heavens so great for everbody, then who scrubs the toilets up there?"

"When the three little pigs kept saying " not by the hair on my chinny-chin-chin what the hell are they talking about?"

Isn't the answer to any question, no matter how profound thoughtful, or cosmic merley "Who cares?"

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MightyMage
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posted April 10, 2002 12:03 AM

Quote:
sweet
just a few more...........

"If i told a really,really good jokw,would it make god laugh?"
Who really knows.  I guess you'll have to ask him when you get there.

"once you're in heaven,do you get stuck wearing the clothes you were buried in for eternity?"
No.  It's our spirits that go to heaven, not our bodies.    

"If theres life on other planets,are there aliens in heaven too?"
God only granted souls to humans because they were his special creation.

"Is neanderthal man in heaven?"
sure, If they believed in God.
John 3:16
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only son, that whoever believes in him will not perish but have eternal life(in other words, go to heaven).

"Do dinosaurs have souls?"
No they do not.  Again, only humans.

"If someones been decapitated, are they still headless in heaven?"
That's where that soul thing comes in again.  Our bodies don't go to heaven, our souls do and all who are in heaven are perfact.

"Can the spirits of your dead relatives watch you when you're going to the bathroom?"
There is no need to go to the bathroom in heaven.  You don't eat or drink or do any of the imperfact things we as humans had to do to live.
"Why did got create tape worms and dung beetles?"
Why not?  He must have had a good reason, like maybe somthing feeds on these creatures.

"Is there yodeling in hell?"
Only the weeping and crying of the tortured souls.

"If heavens so great for everbody, then who scrubs the toilets up there?"
No toilets, No Scrubbing.

"When the three little pigs kept saying " not by the hair on my chinny-chin-chin what the hell are they talking about?"
I guess they were talking about the hair on their chins.

Isn't the answer to any question, no matter how profound thoughtful, or cosmic merley "Who cares?"


There ya go.
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Moose
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posted April 10, 2002 07:09 PM

Cat, they does not say that creationism or Darwinism are true, because they can`t prove them surely. Now scientist have have found some reasons why the evolution theory can`t be true. Still evolution theory supporters have hardly truthful theories why Bible`s theory can`t be true.
Im a creationism supporter, I could tell some good discorveries why the evolution can`t be true, but im a Finn and as you see my English is quite bad

Mighty Mage, Noah couldn`t forgot any animals. Because God send them to the ark. There had not rained before the deluge. If you read faithfully you will notice that there was water layer over the atmosphere. This way the warmth did not "escape" to the space and this way the dino`s might live. Dinosaurs were cold-blooded and because there was that "water layer" warmth divide evenly.
I wish you blessing good brother/sister(?)

Arachnid, nice question`s, funny. But only God can answer your deepest questions. And He can fill empty hole in your heart.
Don`t say now that converting you, im not. Im just.. nevermind



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Wesley
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posted April 10, 2002 07:25 PM

No

It's dinosaurs or god.

They can't live in both.

They have found enough evidence of dinosaurs and only a silly old bible from the christian believe thingy.

I go with the NON god way, because I don't believe in fairytailes(Howmuch I want it to be trough tough)

I don't hate people who believe and stuff, it's their own choise, I just don't marry/fall in love with them for my own reasons. I have a couple of friends that believe in god, we just don't talk about that subject.
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posted April 10, 2002 07:26 PM

The Big Debate on where we came from and why is completely irrelevant in my opinion. Throughout the ages we have studied history... and the farther is gets away from us the less we know about it.. Which is why creation and evolutionary theorys can be supported by anybody with half a brain because nobody can prove them completely false outright. Because like lord of the rings says.. Tales become legends, legends become myths and then even myths are fogotten. I think their is some truth to this just because we don't know wether jesus was stolen or ressurected. We don't know wether man evolved or was created. We don't know what colors dinorsaurs were.. All these things have become dilluted with time. And as time passed we lost more and more of it.  So.. me personally i'm an anti-creationist and an anti-evolutionist..

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Wesley
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posted April 10, 2002 07:33 PM

Wow

Thanks tortoise.. for calling the MORE Then half of this planet stupid.

I think more people believe in the other theory then in a god that never showed ANYTHING but some crystal tears and war.

Don't call other people stupid when they don't believe in something that maybe isn't there..

In that way you can say that minotaurs lived as wel.. that has started the same way as all that bible stories. But somebody said it was the truth and everybody believes it(NOT MANY when you compair it to the world, most people doesn't believe and many poeple have 10000 different gods)

And when I hear those stories from the bible my brains start to work and I know it's not true... why nothing happens in the days when people got some brains? When those stories were made people believed in everything... you said that there were witches and werewolves and the people just believed it.. Nobody can prove if there was once a boat that transported even the animals that EAT humans or a tower that changed languages(Sound like movies and stories to me)

SOrry if I offended you but you did it with my brothers aswel. Calling us non believers stupid.
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tortoise
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posted April 10, 2002 07:37 PM

right..... i don't think you quite got the message i was intending...

"Which is why creation and evolutionary theorys can be supported by anybody with half a brain because nobody can prove them completely false outright."

What this says is that either belief can be believed by anybody for any rational or irrational explanation they give themselves.. and that was also reffering to being either a christian and/or and believer in evolutionary theory etc... sry wes, but i was just sayin that its a debate that can never be finished.
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Wesley
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posted April 10, 2002 07:40 PM

Ow..

Then I have to say sorry
I'm a stupid dutch guy and sometimes I read things in a different way.

Then peach and again sorry for reading in the wrong direction
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tortoise
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posted April 10, 2002 07:44 PM

oh and as for arachnid and his questions..  This is from a purely creative aspect...  When you go to heaven.. lets say you died when you were oh i dunno... 90? old frail.. not much fun to be in heaven like that.. so i would imagine it would kinda be like matrix style.. you know.. Residual Self Image? so we'd all be pimped out in our mid 20's  

And If i'm right heaven would kinda be like the ribbon from star trek? you remember that one? anyways, you could do whatever you wanted in the blink of an eye just by imagining it..

And how does the mail work? Like lets say you want to find you first gf? is it like old school scrolls because God is conservative and he likes keepin it old school? or is it some high tech snow? 'cause obviously if he's god. he's could probably have some high tech cpu's
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posted April 10, 2002 09:18 PM

Wesley,

who has said that there weren't dinosaurs in the Ark? I haven't studied the Bible thoroughly, but as far as I can see, it doesn't mention dinosaurs. And that doesn't necessarily mean they didn't exist.

I agree that the stories in the Bible don't sound realistic. But the reason I believe in God isn't that I believe in the Bible - it's the opposite way. I feel that God has proved his existence for me in several ways, and therefore I believe in the Bible.

The main reason for my belief is the feeling I have got at some Christian meetings. I have felt the presence of the Holy Spirit several times. I don't know how to explain the Holy Spirit; you have to experience it yourself to understand it.

The strongest experience God has given me was a meeting in January. At first, it seemed like a normal meeting. However, while I was standing, I suddenly felt that my body got heavy, and my legs began to tremble. Two seconds later, the leader of the meeting said: "Some of you start to feel heavy. I want you to come to the front of the scene". Coincidence, you may say. But I am certain that God wanted me to go to the front. I did so, and soon I fell to the floor under the presence of God. For about half an hour, I just cried (no, I don't cry often) and felt the Holy Spirit was giving me a lovely feeling. And after the meeting, I didn't feel heavy at all.

I could have given many more examples of my experiences with God. But I hope you got my main point: I believe in the Bible because I believe in God, not the opposite way.
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Wesley
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posted April 10, 2002 09:30 PM

The reason I don't believe?

Is because that school just made me laugh at every single story they told me.

And I don't think it had any reason to make PLuto/mercurius/venus/marsh/saturnus/uranus and neptunes. Why did he made those? For funplay?

I always loved thinking about this subject.. but more points draw me to the NON god stories then to the christian side... it is just to familiar with minotaur/poseidon and hades stories to me... And I see that as fairytales, sorry .

No church or anything else can ever talk me over, not even miracles(that won't happen anyway)

From a small kid(5 years) I already tought that the people that told that stories to me were crazy... Santa even beat god at that spot..

My father did believe in god.. he was an alcholic soccer watching creep, my mother doesn't believe in god, she is nice. Many people say only people who believe are good people.. that's no true at all, some people who believe do many crimes and go to church and then think they should be not punished for their crimes because they prayed to god..
I think that's wrong, many wars are about the bible.

Ofcourse everybody is free and must like things they want to believe.. but it ain't I..
I have this theory.. when you die it will be black like before birth.

This isn't meant hatefull. And just my personal opinion.

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posted April 10, 2002 09:46 PM

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And I don't think it had any reason to make PLuto/mercurius/venus/marsh/saturnus/uranus and neptunes. Why did he made those? For funplay?



thats a bloody good point!!!!!! mind if i steal it and use it in another site they have got this utter massive thread about god and such?
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Wesley
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posted April 10, 2002 09:53 PM

If you promise me spider

To behave next time And don't call me names I don't even understand anymore.

Then you can take it.. however did it never come to any of your minds that those planets are there for nothing... they can't hold any creature and just floating in cicles to be studied by men... WOW interesting! A planet that doesn't hold life.. maybe we can live there once! (dream on)


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