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posted January 29, 2014 03:59 PM |
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Edited by smithey at 16:12, 29 Jan 2014.
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xerox said: So basically Salamandre, you're saying muslims share a collective, secret agenda whereby they breed to enslave a future Europe to islamism?-_-
No, what he's saying (and he's right coz he is aware), is that they and you are similar to "recessive and dominant genes", its not a conspiracy, nor a plot/agenda its a simple matter of an aggressive/pushy culture taking over a tolerant one.
Basic laws of nature and the same phenomenon has been happening throughout our history since forever (certainly not by muslims only), heck it happens within the animal/bio world too...
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posted January 29, 2014 04:05 PM |
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You know, life fleas on a dog. All he can is lick himself, he has no tools to remove the plague. The fleas have no agenda, they follow their instinct only.
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posted January 29, 2014 04:18 PM |
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I dont think Europeans would be that recessive if majority starts to see Islam as a serious cultural threat. If, say, the Muslims (the ones that are pushy and culturally agressive) reach to something like 15 percent of the population and if (and that's a big IF) their children who will be born and educated there would be as agressive and conservative as them, that will definetly cause a reaction, including extremist right wing movements. Since, you guys like to make biological analogies, what's more likely is a new, HYBRID culture which will still be dominantly European. Also keep in mind that the radical kind of muslims are destined to stay lower class since their choice of life, socially, wont let them advance in business or art or academics and they will be considered outcasts among higher circles.
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posted January 29, 2014 04:45 PM |
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I dont think you understand that by the time majority sees something as a threat, its usually too late to react...
At one time in history, white men (christians) were 1% in America, 1% in Australia, jews were a few % in a region called Palestine, pre-ottoman empire muslims were 0% in Bosnia... and look at us today
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posted January 29, 2014 04:51 PM |
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Edited by artu at 16:52, 29 Jan 2014.
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Those are not analogous to the situation. You are referring to invasions by a technologically superior force (except in the situation of Philistine but that is also not an example of immigration, a state was declared in 1948).
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posted January 29, 2014 05:04 PM |
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Bosnia going muslim was an invasions by a technologically superior force ? Who knew, I thought it was converted slavs who kept breeding for 50 years till the numbers were good enough for a country of their own
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posted January 29, 2014 05:09 PM |
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You said Pre-Ottoman, Bosnia being conquered in 15th century by Muslims was invasion of a technologically (in military) superior force.
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posted January 29, 2014 05:17 PM |
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Pre-Ottomans there were 0 % muslims, in 19th century once Ottomans were gone it was a christian country with 10-15% Muslims (slavs who converted)...100 years later it was 45% muslims and there you have it Bosnia is a muslim country, which means it turned into a muslim country by a simple rule of "breed untill u have enough numbers"... The same thing went down in Israel which is not what it was in 1948, it's the same formula that has been used throughout history all over the globe, Im just saying its not a plot or an agenda but merely an evolution of a sort
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posted January 29, 2014 05:18 PM |
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Majority? Already been there. 86% of french think that immigration should become selective, 67% of them believe France does way more for immigrants than for french people-positive discrimination-. Yet 250 000 enter each year, besides the illegal ones.
Seeing that exactly nothing is done, I find ironic that when individuals like Breivik choose extreme ways to express their anger, everyone looks shocked and surprised. Then the right wing progresses every year, wonder why.
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posted January 29, 2014 07:17 PM |
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and right wings are most likely lying and will be as powerless against immigration as other parties since it is the UE that decides about immigration issues. they are apparently trying to uniformise the procedures for the whole union.
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posted January 29, 2014 07:21 PM |
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Well, No. The first thing right wing want to do is get out from EU. At this point I agree that the constant moral lessons from EU bureaucrats tend to become repetitive.
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posted January 29, 2014 07:35 PM |
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I heard they don't want to leave UE but only try to renegotiate the treaties.
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posted January 29, 2014 07:41 PM |
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@Smithey
Oh, you meant post-Ottoman then, ok, let's say that is the only example that relatively fits. I still don't think France or U.K. is much comparable to Bosnia. They are major players, not post-empire nation states built within the past century. And keep in mind, you are talking about a feudal culture assimilating an industrial one, which is completely unheard of.
Are you guys suggesting that, say 150 years later, France will be like Egypt or Iran with an oppressed Christian minority?
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posted January 29, 2014 07:55 PM |
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Edited by smithey at 20:03, 29 Jan 2014.
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Im suggesting that they might find themselves in a culture thats not theirs in 100 years from now...
Check this out,
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(btw I do think this guy isnt the most respectable guy, but yeah)Thats London today... not saying the entire London looks like this, but hey, how insane would you sound a 100 years ago if you were to say that this scenario would ever be a reality in London of all places (to me its still weird to see that in London)... so yeah in 100 years from now, sky is the limit, especially for countries more tolerant than UK&France, like Scandinavia region
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posted January 29, 2014 08:10 PM |
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smithey
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posted January 29, 2014 08:12 PM |
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JoonasTo said: You think that's something?
THIS is something
LOL, frankly was hoping for fast and furious starring Joonas in Paul Walker's place
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posted January 29, 2014 08:16 PM |
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Sorry man, I like to have my fast and furious in a private group
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posted January 29, 2014 08:40 PM |
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Not that I believe that sins pass down to new generations but maybe it is God's will that Europe is colonised to pay for past actions... Karma, maybe?...
Personally I have faith in the relative superiority of my own culture and society. I just hope that incompetant, short sighted politicians do not mess up with their fondness for ghettos or keep sending good, harmless people back to their awful countries of origin.
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posted January 29, 2014 09:07 PM |
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Well, Smithey, in your video the english guy is stupid and uneducated. Going into a muslim area, insulting religion then moving the car while the other had hands on, I am not surprised the muslim had a violent reaction, who wouldn't?
Such videos make muslims game, as they only show how racists and stubborn some europeans can be. If one wants to show the incompatibility of the two cultures, keep out from acting like an uneducated fag.
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posted January 29, 2014 10:11 PM |
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Edited by smithey at 22:21, 29 Jan 2014.
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First of all I did say the guy isnt cool, however
1. I do believe that you as a christian/muslim/jew/alien/neo-nazi have a right to disrespect/talk trash about religion/democracy or anything else for that matter wherever you choose to do so, without it deserving a violent response coz even if you're a retard with idiotic opinions freedom of speech is what separates the west from Chinas of this world...
2. The muslim dude who smacked him is not just a random muslim dude, its their religious leader man !!! The same person who represents the entire neighborhood, the one everybody is supposed to look up to as their spiritual leader and a role model !!! When someone like that cant control his temper and responds with violence towards any retard who talks shi*, well what a hell does that say about his community...
Thats why religious freaks (christians/muslims/jews as one) simply suck IM"O"O obviously !!!
the second O meaning Objective
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