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Heroes Community > Heroes 3.5 - WoG and Beyond > Thread: [Official Thread] HoMM 3: Horn of the Abyss - Announcements, Questions, Features
Thread: [Official Thread] HoMM 3: Horn of the Abyss - Announcements, Questions, Features This Super Thread is 548 pages long: 1 70 140 210 280 ... 331 332 333 334 335 ... 350 420 490 548 · «PREV / NEXT»
trenbolone
trenbolone

Tavern Dweller
posted January 01, 2019 10:03 AM

WOW O KURWA (3) WOOOOW
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planetavril
planetavril


Famous Hero
posted January 01, 2019 10:39 AM
Edited by planetavril at 10:43, 01 Jan 2019.

if they anticipate the times and a new city comes before version 2.0, maybe in 2.0 there will be another new city and maybe another level of play after surface and underground
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if you can only do hota can

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Lord_Immortal
Lord_Immortal


Famous Hero
DoR Dev Team
posted January 01, 2019 01:44 PM

Now, in the original plan for HotA, there were supposed to be added 4 factions: Cove, Kronverk, Cathedral and Forge.

Factory looks at least as the combination of Kronverk and Forge (one of the unit portraits looks like Cathedral Witch Hunter though).

I'm really glad that they went for Steampunk/Victorian instead of the original Forge as it does make much more sense. Seems a little inspired by "Heroes of Annihilated Empires" an Ukrainian RTS(Cossacks style) inspired by Heroes III. (Or maybe by Arcanum of Steamworks and Magic Obscura). I always thought that if ever the design of a Forge faction for a mod would be up to me I'd go for something similar.

Kronverk & Forge were inspired by the "Hammers of Fate" expansion for Heroes V but had some nice concepts there. I'd really like it if the HotA team would continue (in the future) in similar towns. The Vori Elves might take up the place of the Dwarves in the formerly "Kronverk" faction (and of course include slightly different content). There was also an interesting concept at the Cathedral, one which I'd love to see come back (maybe with changes). Both Snow creatures town and inquisition town have huge potential. Let's hope new towns won't end with Factory.

Lorewise speaking I know not how Factory fills in the Heroes 3 world - Karigor or East Jadame? Reference map here

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Darkem
Darkem


Known Hero
posted January 01, 2019 02:25 PM
Edited by Darkem at 21:30, 01 Jan 2019.

Ladies and Gentlemen, let the lineup predictions begin!

On a more serious note, I simply love the surprise. It's not an overstatement. The new terrain looks unique enough, it bares a pleasant resemblance to HoMM2 art style and seems to be inspired by Wild West what surprisingly well fills the niche in H3 terrain pallette.

WildWest/Steampunk themes make me keep my fingers crossed for Red Dwarves presence in the town. Moreover, I hope for a diverse lineup - it would be great to have less humanoids than in the Cove this time. The math is simple: Less humanoids + Red Dwarves = Dragon Golem. Please, HotA team, make it happen!

Awesome work! You made all the "Happy New Year" wishes come true on a very first day od 2019!

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P4R4D0X0N
P4R4D0X0N


Famous Hero
posted January 01, 2019 02:55 PM
Edited by P4R4D0X0N at 14:59, 01 Jan 2019.

phoenix4ever said:
You cared enough to answer, but not answer properly, can you use the classic Resistance skill in the newest version or not?
Also the questions were intended for the HotA Crew, they have been nice enough to answer before.


They already said in this thread to the same question given by you, that the classic Resistance will be eventually implemented and most likely with magic update where it belongs... (at least thats what I understand from DPs post) My statement was about "hinted content" we already know whats next...

Quote:
Regarding Resistance, everything has been said and regurgitated already. The new mechanic will eventually be added as a new skill, and the original one will be preserved, albeit disabled on most default templates and maps (Thorgrim will retain his specialty). It has also been said that the current state of the skill is a temporary measure to support the balance in online gameplay; this is not the final layout. Moreover, HotA_launcher.exe currently features a toggle to switch the game back to the old mechanic. Considering the above, seeing posters still complain months after the initial announcement makes no sense at all.


About new town... let's judge when we see some more stuff... but new is always kinda good. Even if I think it would be like Coflux and Tower more or less with mechanical units, but we will see.

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shpitz461
shpitz461

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posted January 01, 2019 04:35 PM

This is exciting, thanks much for all you guys do!
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fred79
fred79


Disgraceful
Undefeatable Hero
posted January 01, 2019 07:25 PM

Docent_Picolan said:
Horn of the Abyss: Factory


New graphics, new town, new creatures(?)...

The bugfixes were damn thoughtful and much-needed, and i'm sure, deeply appreciated by hardcore fans of homm3/hota; but...

When can we expect the release of that content? I hate even asking that question and possibly being lumped in with some thankless vampires so soon after a release, but you asked for it by debuting content that is more up my own alley...

It's not gonna be released a half year from now, is it? You guys kill me with these waiting times.

I know i'm a hypocrite for saying that, regarding my own work, but hey...

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foerno
foerno


Adventuring Hero
posted January 01, 2019 07:47 PM

hmm in that youtube video the player accepts eagle eye from a scholar? is that an indication that some rework for this skill will make this actually useful?

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revolut1oN
revolut1oN


Famous Hero
posted January 01, 2019 07:51 PM

fred79 said:
When can we expect the release of that content? I hate even asking that question and possibly being lumped in with some thankless vampires so soon after a release, but you asked for it by debuting content that is more up my own alley...



My Russian is not very good, but from what I've understood from Docent Piccolan's yt comment it should be around 1 year, maybe little less.
Correct me if I'm wrong ^^

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Popcioslav
Popcioslav


Hired Hero
The best H4 unit
posted January 01, 2019 09:07 PM
Edited by Popcioslav at 21:09, 01 Jan 2019.

trenbolone said:
WOW O KURWA (3) WOOOOW

I mean me too thanks

I love how for almost an entire day I somehow dodged this trailer, because I wasn't expecting anything outside of the 1.5.4 earlier this month. Bravo me.

And yeah I actually really love the premise and liked the theme in the trailer, I hope at least the melody on the end will be used for the town music, it just has that sense of discovery I'd say.

Still trying to figure out the units. As I've seen people point out on other forums 4th level looks like a flying unit - presumably some experiment result (I predict it's probably going to be a Humunculus), 3rd level looks cowboy inspired (Cove's Pirate brother?) and levels 1-2 are presumably workers of some kind. It feels almost like while they used Cathedral/Kronverk/Forge and the other flying town I remember they pitched once for Hota, they might've actually used Cove as a base for the units themselves. It think it will probably be another all-around town.

I'm also generally happy with the fanbase too. I know there a lot of people who hated any clear hint of progress or sci-fi in Heroes back in the days and even on the release of Cove (pirates with guns), but now it feels like people are actually fine having more cultures with a different technological influence in this series. It's amazing that while Ubisoft forgot over time that M&M was originally fantasy with sci-fi, fans actually try to accomplish something with this idea.

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pellish
pellish


Famous Hero
posted January 01, 2019 10:35 PM

I have full confidence in the HotA team and their quality work. I hope more people feel like me; even those who have a hard time envisioning a town like this in Heroes III.

Docent Picolan wrote something about a year being a realistic timeframe for a release (for those wondering).

This was really an unexpected yet huge surprise. I will do my best to endure the anticipation.

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Hourglass
Hourglass


Famous Hero
posted January 01, 2019 10:45 PM

Wow, just wow!

Really, this is amazing. I would not have even though that a reveal of a new town would be possible. You guys really enjoy of making surprises.

For those of you wondering when this is going to be real, as Revolution mentioned earlier, there is a message in yt left by Docent Picolan that says the release of Factory is quite possibly within an year, possibly even less. Also, remember that this isn't the same as it was with Cove back in the day, since there were a lot of technical limitations back then. I would also like to point out that if they would not make even a teaser, if they would belive they couldn't release Factory in a relatively short amount of time. Think about RMG editor, which was revealed in the spring of 2017, and it became reality at the end of that year.

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phoenix4ever
phoenix4ever


Legendary Hero
Heroes is love, Heroes is life
posted January 01, 2019 11:37 PM

A whole year? Well that is kind of a bummer. So is it 2020 already?

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planetavril
planetavril


Famous Hero
posted January 01, 2019 11:51 PM

I fully share the thought of pellish, the Hota team has always released quality content and if we wait, we hope that they will not stop at factory town, thanks to them, to vcmi and recently succession wars remade heroes 3 not will never die, so thank you and happy 2019 everyone

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verriker
verriker


Honorable
Legendary Hero
We don't need another 'eroes
posted January 02, 2019 01:43 AM

hey very nice surprise new town out of the blue you got there, I hope it will evoke the old Might and Magic games with the Jack Vance and the Geary Gravel and all of that wonderful stuff cheers lol
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Gandalf196
Gandalf196


Disgraceful
Supreme Hero
posted January 02, 2019 01:55 AM

gatecrasher said:
I don't think they are currently working on new towns.



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gatecrasher
gatecrasher


Famous Hero
posted January 02, 2019 02:29 AM

Gandalf196 said:
gatecrasher said:
I don't think they are currently working on new towns.





It's quite the rabbit they pulled out of the hat but who knows - maybe they weren't at that moment.

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planetavril
planetavril


Famous Hero
posted January 02, 2019 08:24 AM

if they really release it in a year, having seen in the video that is already included in the game, maybe they are creating a new expansion of which factory will be part or it will not be the only city to be released ??
we will discover it only by living

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vylk
vylk


Adventuring Hero
posted January 02, 2019 10:37 AM

Hats off HOTA team, Hats OFF!

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Darkem
Darkem


Known Hero
posted January 02, 2019 11:10 AM
Edited by Darkem at 11:44, 02 Jan 2019.

So, here's a bit of digging I did this morning. All the screenshots I used writing this post come (mostly) from the original video teaser by HotA Team.

Bertram and Todd are ARTIFICERs. According to Cambridge English Dictionary: artificer a skilled craftsman (= someone who makes things), a skilled mechanic (= someone who repairs engines) in the army, navy, or air force.



The very first new building we see unveiled by fog of war is called SERPENTARIUM. It's a place where snakes and sometimes other reptiles are kept for display or study.

As Witchking pointed on AcidCave's official forum - it might be a sign of Wind Serpent/Quetzalcoatl's presence in Factory's lineup. It makes more sens the more you read about these creatures and their ties with modern Mexico and old Wild West.


Wind Serpent? Quetzalcoatl?

All the gathered information allows me to make a wild guess. I suppose that we will be able to recruit Gnomes as a level 1 creature (good mechanics, a reference to Heroes 2 Halflings/Hobbits)
, Pyromancers (as an homage to the the concept of original FORGE) , Wind Serpents and Technomages (Its not backed by real evidence. I just want this unit to be something different from another gun-wielding human. We've already got in COVE and my wish number 2 - Dragon Golems. Aren't they awesome?

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