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Thread: [Official Thread] HoMM 3: Horn of the Abyss - Announcements, Questions, Features This Super Thread is 548 pages long: 1 70 140 210 280 350 ... 369 370 371 372 373 ... 420 490 548 · «PREV / NEXT»
LordInsane
LordInsane


Known Hero
posted September 06, 2019 01:26 PM

TheClone said:
Who said you need to wait for something in September?
Big things go out for the new year usually.
This is a good tradition.

To explain, it has been indicated that an update will come out with the Wasteland terrain some time this autumn, with New Years being the even bigger thing of the Factory town. It has also been indicated we'll get more information... well, last month, so some time before the Wasteland update.

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Doomforge
Doomforge


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posted September 06, 2019 02:37 PM

Wonder if we get desert next. It's the one terrain still missing from HoMM2, since wastelands will come with Factory.

I miss it myself, since we get "beach terrain" for underground, beach and deserts.

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gatecrasher
gatecrasher


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posted September 06, 2019 02:48 PM
Edited by gatecrasher at 14:51, 06 Sep 2019.

With Sand, Rough, Wasteland and maybe Dirt I think there's enough desert diversity already.
I'd rather have some Tundra stuff fill the gap between Highlands and Snow. And Styx-like underground water terrain.

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Oddball13579
Oddball13579


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Grandmaster of the Hunt
posted September 06, 2019 07:28 PM

Sand isn't really a desert terrain per say. Mainly just used to denote beaches. And dirt is dirt, can't really call it a desert.

But a Tundra terrain does sound really nice, along with the Styx-like underground water.

I also kinda want like an autumn like terrain. With the trees being a mix of conifers and deciduous trees that are losing their leaves (red, orange, yellow, and brown leaves). But that is rather low on the list of things I want.
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portus
portus


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posted September 07, 2019 12:16 PM

But there is some kind of desert terrain already, isn't there? I mean the one whose combats include a battlefield sprinkled with quicksand hexes (nice touch BTW). There's this map, I think the name is Barren lands though I'm not sure, where you can find some nice desert zones (with the aforementioned sort of battles).
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10
10

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posted September 08, 2019 08:15 AM
Edited by 10 at 08:16, 08 Sep 2019.

Doomforge said:
Wonder if we get desert next.

Oddball13579 said:
Sand isn't really a desert terrain per say.


Well, um, actually...


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elaf
elaf


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posted September 08, 2019 02:51 PM

Oddball13579 said:
Sand isn't really a desert terrain per say. Mainly just used to denote beaches. And dirt is dirt, can't really call it a desert.

But a Tundra terrain does sound really nice, along with the Styx-like underground water.

I also kinda want like an autumn like terrain. With the trees being a mix of conifers and deciduous trees that are losing their leaves (red, orange, yellow, and brown leaves). But that is rather low on the list of things I want.



Half of Africa is desert, H3 really needs a Desert themed Town (Bastion Was perfect, but Oasis is very good too) in MM6, 7 and 8 you have a lot of desert Lore, Gorgons, Tritons, Anubises, Genius, etc....

off course main ability is the Desert No movement Penalty (which is like Fortress town with Wasteland)

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gatecrasher
gatecrasher


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posted September 08, 2019 04:57 PM

What are Stronghold and Factory if not desert-themed?

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Doomforge
Doomforge


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posted September 08, 2019 06:30 PM

They are badlands (dirt) and Wastelands themed.

HoMM2 had distinctive desert terrain in addition to sand/dirt which I kinda miss

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phoenix4ever
phoenix4ever


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posted September 08, 2019 08:46 PM

Haven't HotA Crew stated they wanted to keep sand as a neutral terrain?
I personally think a desert faction, that praises Fire Magic, would be great though.

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Oddball13579
Oddball13579


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posted September 08, 2019 09:10 PM
Edited by Oddball13579 at 21:20, 08 Sep 2019.

10 said:
Well, um, actually...
Well, um, actually... It says sand in-game. Just took this screenshot today. Same map as well.



elaf said:
Half of Africa is desert
I am well aware of that thank you. I was speaking in the context of the game. Also sand does not classify a desert. What classifies a desert is a lack of rain over the period of a year. "A place that receives less than 10 inches (25 centimeters) of rain per year is considered a desert." Both the Arctic and Antarctica are also considered deserts. Sand does not make a desert. Lack of precipitation does.
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P4R4D0X0N
P4R4D0X0N


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posted September 09, 2019 11:02 PM

Speaking of hydrology terms Is "rough" to be called "arid" now?

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elaf
elaf


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posted September 10, 2019 01:51 AM

Doomforge said:
They are badlands (dirt) and Wastelands themed.

HoMM2 had distinctive desert terrain in addition to sand/dirt which I kinda miss


exactly, is like compare bolivian terrain with egypt or arabian terrain.
totally different, people, transport, culture.

H3 introduced Desert Sand terrain, not like coast beach, just like sand desert, even a more frozen ice like terrain can be possible.

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elaf
elaf


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posted September 10, 2019 01:56 AM

gatecrasher said:
What are Stronghold and Factory if not desert-themed?



Exact, i think that Factory and Stronghold Fits the same terrain but with different culture or time.
that's why i personally dont like Factory too much, is like a Stronghold 1000 years after.

on the opposite side, desert sand terrain (or even ice desert terrain) dont have any Specilist Town (focused in the ability of adaptability to the terrain like Fortress)


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gatecrasher
gatecrasher


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posted September 10, 2019 04:06 AM

So you want a new terrain which is only set apart by tje colour of sand. You realise there is no Bolivia nor Egypt in the M&M universe?

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LordInsane
LordInsane


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posted September 10, 2019 05:11 PM

gatecrasher said:
You realise there is no Bolivia nor Egypt in the M&M universe?

Probably not, at least (you can never be too sure with beings like the Ancients around), though there are clearly Egypt-esque things just on Enroth (as comes to mind at the moment, mummies (they generally look more Egyptian than Incan), Egyptian-style pyramids and Guardians of VARN - though those were Ancient-designed, as was the Egypt-style pyramid of the Tomb of VARN).

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Doomforge
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posted September 10, 2019 05:33 PM

gatecrasher said:
So you want a new terrain which is only set apart by tje colour of sand. You realise there is no Bolivia nor Egypt in the M&M universe?


who cares? it's just a palette color for some extra visual lucre (and is faithful to HoMM series, since it was in HoMM2). Do you have any argument for NOT adding it other than "it's not necessary" ?

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gatecrasher
gatecrasher


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posted September 10, 2019 06:20 PM

I think 10 towns (including Factory) is enough. With more and more towns starts feeling unfocused.
H1 had only 4 towns and wasn't a bad game. There was a compact feeling to that.

I don't think that H3/HotA urgently needs additions/modifications (as some people here use to paraphrase their whishes) but I think new towns is what it needs the least urgently.
And absolutely least urgently yet another desert town with yellowish sand this time round.

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Phoenix4ever
Phoenix4ever


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posted September 10, 2019 07:03 PM
Edited by Phoenix4ever at 19:04, 10 Sep 2019.

gatecrasher said:
yet another desert town
and where do you see the other desert towns? Stronghold is not a desert town.

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Kipshasz
Kipshasz


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posted September 10, 2019 07:26 PM

technically it kind of is, but not a sort of sandy dune filled desert.
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