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Thread: [Official Thread] HoMM 3: Horn of the Abyss - Announcements, Questions, Features This Super Thread is 548 pages long: 1 70 140 210 280 350 420 ... 470 471 472 473 474 ... 490 548 · «PREV / NEXT»
The_Green_Drag
The_Green_Drag


Supreme Hero
posted March 27, 2021 09:59 PM

My mistake, I was talking about a different h2 warlock in factory, Agar.

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Memo
Memo

Tavern Dweller
posted March 28, 2021 02:52 PM

yesterday the HotA crew said on their forum that there will be no special combat vehicle of the Factory. And there are no more guns on the siege of the city. I think there is a lot more that was abandoned during development (
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FirePaladin
FirePaladin


Legendary Hero
DoR Modder
posted March 28, 2021 03:07 PM

Could you link it? I didn't see such a message on the two df2 HotA boards I'm following.
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StrangeFin
StrangeFin

Tavern Dweller
posted March 28, 2021 03:20 PM
Edited by StrangeFin at 18:23, 28 Mar 2021.

https://forum.df2.ru/index.php?s=8fa7df9970322854f83e6bca78752893&showtopic=37363&st=2800&start=2800

This is the discussion which shed the above mentioned info about siege weapon and towers.

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FirePaladin
FirePaladin


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posted March 28, 2021 03:34 PM

Ah, I see, thanks for the link.
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Phoenix4ever
Phoenix4ever


Legendary Hero
Heroes is love, Heroes is life
posted March 28, 2021 10:09 PM

Okay, so Ammo Cart for Factory.
Got ya.

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Tordah
Tordah


Adventuring Hero
posted March 28, 2021 11:26 PM

LordInsane said:
Tordah said:
LordInsane said:

We know that at least in cinematics, the Kastore HotA is bringing back looks like his MM7 incarnation


The_Green_Drag said:

Yeah I love that he’s a factory hero. His new portrait is great too.



wait what

where have you seen this content i had no idea??? please link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paYKKlAO0ck
(while you can't actually see his face there, you can see the skin of his arms, and his clothing corresponds spot-on to what he wore in MM7)


I remember now that i have seen this video beforehand.

Yet i beg to differ from your assumption; zoom into the reflection on the right window and you can clearly see the bright cyan skin and pointed grey ears!

Honestly it could be both but i think the Homm2 version has more soul to it and it's a direct comeback from the officially previous game.

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The_Green_Drag
The_Green_Drag


Supreme Hero
posted March 28, 2021 11:35 PM
Edited by The_Green_Drag at 23:37, 28 Mar 2021.

(About the ammo cart)

Can’t say I’m disappointed. Personally, I didn’t like the idea of HotA’s second add-on faction having yet another unique war machine. Factory already has a lot going for it within its line up.

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Tordah
Tordah


Adventuring Hero
posted March 28, 2021 11:50 PM

The_Green_Drag said:
(About the ammo cart)

Can’t say I’m disappointed. Personally, I didn’t like the idea of HotA’s second add-on faction having yet another unique war machine. Factory already has a lot going for it within its line up.


while i am here and i see your comment il also have to point out an issue with the cannon; they forgot to implement a way to upgrade from balista to cannon. you cannot discard the balista to purchase a cannon in the town screen.

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Phoenix4ever
Phoenix4ever


Legendary Hero
Heroes is love, Heroes is life
posted March 29, 2021 07:50 AM
Edited by Phoenix4ever at 07:56, 29 Mar 2021.

Also ballista specialists got screwed, since cannon is much better than ballista. Jeremy does'nt have this problem...

And if only there was a way to make ballista/cannon/arrow towers NOT shoot at blinded targets.

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gatecrasher
gatecrasher


Famous Hero
posted March 29, 2021 08:47 AM

Yeah, maybe there should be a universal war machine specialisation.
However I can understand why the ballista specialists aren't stellar with cannons and Jeremy isn't with a ballista

The cannon would have been a good fit for Factory but they probably have their strong points already.

Regarding the Ammo Cart, I think there are too many units with too high ammunition, lower ammunition values could lead to more interesting fights and would make the cart more useful. Pretty low prio "issue" though.

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UntalentedHero
UntalentedHero


Hired Hero
posted March 29, 2021 01:14 PM

gatecrasher said:
Yeah, maybe there should be a universal war machine specialisation.


I rarely teach my heroes machine skills, so I partially agree with you, but the problem is that if you combine the three skills into one it would be probably too OP.

By the way, does any of you know if in addition to the Factory they will add more things to the game? Like new artifacts, creature banks, or map objects.

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neno
neno

Tavern Dweller
posted March 29, 2021 04:31 PM

Regarding warmachines: this single skill seems appealing but at the same time it would be a bit too much, not to mention how exactly could a skill give you so many different entries in a single skill tool tip?
I would maybe see the catapult and artillery merged in a single skill, but this would leave first aid at an even lower tier.
What I would gladly see is a balance of ballista and cannon, as the second is better both in damage AND able to attack walls. Maybe giving the ballista the ability to shoot a second arrow if it kills with its first hit the target stack?

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LordInsane
LordInsane


Known Hero
posted March 29, 2021 04:48 PM

Tordah said:
I remember now that i have seen this video beforehand.

Yet i beg to differ from your assumption; zoom into the reflection on the right window and you can clearly see the bright cyan skin and pointed grey ears!

Honestly it could be both but i think the Homm2 version has more soul to it and it's a direct comeback from the officially previous game.

I can't really say I agree with your interpretation of it being clearly seen given the lightning of the scene. I think it's telling that Alamar was shifted to a more naturalistic skin colour between H2 and H3, too.

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The_Green_Drag
The_Green_Drag


Supreme Hero
posted March 29, 2021 05:32 PM

UntalentedHero said:

By the way, does any of you know if in addition to the Factory they will add more things to the game? Like new artifacts, creature banks, or map objects.


I can’t imagine they wouldnt make a creature bank or two with a factory theme/units. They want to leave some things as a surprise, so I could see creature banks as one of those things. They’ve got new(ish) map buildings, like the oil rig for wasteland terriain, but it’s just a water mill (weekly gold).


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UntalentedHero
UntalentedHero


Hired Hero
posted March 29, 2021 07:22 PM

The_Green_Drag said:
They’ve got new(ish) map buildings, like the oil rig for wasteland terriain, but it’s just a water mill (weekly gold).


Yeah, I know those, they are cool. But technically they are from the 1.6.0 version, so it would be awesome if the devs had more miscellaneous novelties for the future.

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fred79
fred79


Disgraceful
Undefeatable Hero
posted March 30, 2021 01:49 AM

The_Green_Drag said:
UntalentedHero said:

By the way, does any of you know if in addition to the Factory they will add more things to the game? Like new artifacts, creature banks, or map objects.


I can’t imagine they wouldnt make a creature bank or two with a factory theme/units. They want to leave some things as a surprise, so I could see creature banks as one of those things. They’ve got new(ish) map buildings, like the oil rig for wasteland terriain, but it’s just a water mill (weekly gold).




what about the Serpentarium building? isn't that a new bank for Factory?

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FirePaladin
FirePaladin


Legendary Hero
DoR Modder
posted March 30, 2021 02:06 AM
Edited by FirePaladin at 02:07, 30 Mar 2021.

That's the Couatl dwelling. And I suppose that other big building in the latest teaser was the beefy robot dwelling.
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Memo
Memo

Tavern Dweller
posted March 30, 2021 06:52 AM

UntalentedHero said:
gatecrasher said:
Yeah, maybe there should be a universal war machine specialisation.


I rarely teach my heroes machine skills, so I partially agree with you, but the problem is that if you combine the three skills into one it would be probably too OP.

By the way, does any of you know if in addition to the Factory they will add more things to the game? Like new artifacts, creature banks, or map objects.


There will be no new artifacts with a 100% probability. There will be 1 visited facility (bank) for the wasteland. That's all that the Factory update will bring.
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Doomforge
Doomforge


Admirable
Undefeatable Hero
Retired Hero
posted March 30, 2021 03:57 PM

UntalentedHero said:
if you combine the three skills into one it would be probably too OP.


Not really, it would make it a little less horrible and it would remove First Aid from polluting the skill pool.


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