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Heroes Community > Heroes 3.5 - WoG and Beyond > Thread: [Official Thread] HoMM 3: Horn of the Abyss - Announcements, Questions, Features
Thread: [Official Thread] HoMM 3: Horn of the Abyss - Announcements, Questions, Features This Super Thread is 548 pages long: 1 70 ... 105 106 107 108 109 ... 140 210 280 350 420 490 548 · «PREV / NEXT»
MattII
MattII


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posted February 06, 2015 10:31 AM

Yep, plus it's an inordinate amount of work (14 creatures, 16 heroes, town screen, UI coding, etc), for realistically, only a rather limited increase in replayability, plus as Salamandre said, changing tactics.

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Dj
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posted February 06, 2015 02:14 PM

Im 100% sure that absoluely no one would say no to a new town made by hota, thus new content for your favourite game. otherwise you must be a real hypocrite or not a hardcore fan.

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Galaad
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posted February 06, 2015 03:35 PM

Of course a new town made by HotA would be most welcomed. Cove is a pure marvel.
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hippox89
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posted February 06, 2015 04:24 PM
Edited by hippox89 at 16:33, 06 Feb 2015.

What is with this 'if you don't want the same then you're not a true hardcore fan' bullocks? All Niks is saying to my understanding is that there is more important things to focus on for the moment than getting a brand new town out the door. If they can allocate their resources to this purpose than I think it's great.

So, relax and enjoy Cove for now (besides all the old towns). I'm looking forward to Heavenly Forge, too, but I'm not so impatient that I cannot enjoy the game without it. So until than.

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revolut1oN
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posted February 06, 2015 05:16 PM

Obviously too many new towns is a bad idea, i think there is a place for one, maybe max 2 new towns in H3 in order to keep balance and original spirit of the game.

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posted February 06, 2015 05:18 PM

I think what we need is compatible campaign editor
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Salamandre
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posted February 06, 2015 06:43 PM
Edited by Salamandre at 20:53, 06 Feb 2015.

Dj said:
Im 100% sure that absoluely no one would say no to a new town made by hota, thus new content for your favourite game. otherwise you must be a real hypocrite or not a hardcore fan.


New town is not only a building on map. Is 14 new creatures with new data to process, 16 new heroes with skills to think, new map dwellings to code into rmg, recalculate the whole game-play algorithm every time.

What is a hardcore fan anyway? A guy who plays a lot the game or a guy who has a demand for hota team every hour of every day?
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artu
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posted February 06, 2015 07:21 PM

vylk said:
Still, HoTA - with all its brilliant additions and tweaks would not be the force it is today or have the fame if it were not for the new town involved. And while probably overflowing the game with new towns isn't nessecerily a good idea - the impression you guys have made is that you want to be true to the original vision of the game as a whole... thus adding forge (something that had been planned to begin with) is more or less a perfectly natural next (im sure you'd argue its not a next step, if a step at all). Hota is the best thing that has happened to the entire heroes francise in a long time, and you have your thing, but please don't trump down how much a new town means to all the fans.  

And please remember that a very serious amount of fans simply hate the idea of Forge (it was left behind back then for a reason in the first place) and it would only ruin the expansion for them, especially if it's not optional. So, adding new towns is one thing, adding Forge is another. It's a complete ambiance changer and personally, I wouldnt  play an expansion involving Forge even on a yearly basis.
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Galaad
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posted February 06, 2015 07:39 PM

artu said:
And please remember that a very serious amount of fans simply hate the idea of Forge

That is sadly true.
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P4R4D0X0N
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posted February 06, 2015 08:07 PM
Edited by P4R4D0X0N at 20:13, 06 Feb 2015.

nik312 said:
And "greater" releases are what exactly? There is no lack in resources on our side. The amount of hard-to-create content was quite big in the last few releases. And new towns will not come not because we don't have time for them, but because the game needs not the big shocking changes such as new town, but rather a bunch of smaller and more relevant additions/corrections.


A town is a really big release as you said, and you also said it lacks time. Time is also a ressource... thats what I said in the first place, after a post with 3+ town suggestions What are the plans for 31.12.2015 anyways?

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Salamandre
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posted February 06, 2015 08:36 PM

Galaad said:
That is sadly true.


"sadly" here is the key. Frankly, I am a passionate fan of Might and magic sequels, played 5-8 ones dozens of times, started with a bow and a sword, finished with a blaster rifle,  and enjoyed both the ancient ruins then the futuristic dungeons. Because the key to marry different concepts is the level of quality and storyline is done within.

So, Forge won't shock me at all, except if is some quickly trash done town.
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artu
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posted February 06, 2015 08:40 PM

If it was one special campaign, that might be true but I really dislike the idea of sci-fi elements popping up on random maps. It completely changes the universe and I like the H3 universe we already have.
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Salamandre
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posted February 06, 2015 08:43 PM

Artu, try might and magic 6 and 7 games. They are pure legends, you will like them, then maybe you will look at heroes universe differently. Gog sells now 6-9 for only 11$.
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vylk
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posted February 06, 2015 08:46 PM

Used to hate the idea. Bought and played the entire MM series from 6-8 and I think now I can say I love it. Truth be told, i began liking it even before i played through all of them... don't know. The polls i've seen however definetly make it look like it is the most anticipated town... and there being at least 2 (maybe 3) seperate projects to create this town... you see where i'm going with this.

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artu
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posted February 06, 2015 09:03 PM
Edited by artu at 21:06, 06 Feb 2015.

I think implementing a feature that lets you exclude town types (with dwellings, creatures and heroes) in random maps would be a perfect solution, not just for Forge either, some people think Necro is owerpowered, click it out, some dislike Conflux, leave it away. I wish they had this in Wog, it doesnt appear to me as something hard to implement but then again, I'm not a coder.
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Salamandre
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posted February 06, 2015 09:17 PM
Edited by Salamandre at 21:20, 06 Feb 2015.

Wog has this option (choose town type) then also the rmg.txt can be edited to exclude certain town types. Now if you want also to ban that faction heroes and all creatures on map, could be coded easily, the only backside is that some seer huts may ask for a precise monster to defeat, but I am not sure this kind of huts exist on random maps because I never visit seers. Then there may be a slight problem with prisons as well, but doable.
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artu
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posted February 06, 2015 10:01 PM

I know about the rmg edit, you dont always bother with that though and sometimes the results seem weird. I'm talking about something in the menu. In Wog, I specifically searched for a town disabler (not select but exclude) in random maps but there was none. I cant check now, I'm still in Bodrum.
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P4R4D0X0N
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posted February 06, 2015 10:07 PM

You are always free to rebuild a town in WoG... to another one that fits better...

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Salamandre
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posted February 06, 2015 10:14 PM


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artu
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posted February 06, 2015 10:26 PM

Rebuilding is something else, it changes a lot and it's quite expensive/time consuming.

How did that used to work Sal, let's say I want to play small RM specifically without Inferno and Conflux, am I able to pick? I dont think it used to work that way but havent used it for a while.
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