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Thread: [Official Thread] HoMM 3: Horn of the Abyss - Announcements, Questions, Features This Super Thread is 548 pages long: 1 70 ... 122 123 124 125 126 ... 140 210 280 350 420 490 548 · «PREV / NEXT»
Galaad
Galaad

Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
posted April 14, 2015 03:29 PM

Heresy!
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Salamandre
Salamandre


Admirable
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Wog refugee
posted April 14, 2015 03:44 PM

don_komandorr said:
pikeman big portrait.pcx, pikeman small portrait. pcx).
When you launch the game in HD mode, it'll use files from HD data prior to standart lods.


I was surprised of you saying HD will read single portraits from data and just tested it. It doesn't.

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Maurice
Maurice

Hero of Order
Part of the furniture
posted April 14, 2015 04:03 PM

hippox89 said:
@Maurice

That's certainly true, but if possible then I'd recommend dropping a few statements as to why the classic sprites are better than the new ones, because it might prove helpful to the crew. But it can be hard to make an impression tangible with words, I know.


Of course, but this leads to a nice tangled web of personal opinions vs. those of others . Personal preference is about as subjective as it is and what I may like in a certain graphic may be something someone else absolutely dislikes. You can argue about it, but you also have to consider how many proponents you have as well as opponents to your opinion. In the particular case of the Halberdiers and the Orcs, I think there will be more people who like the new design over the old one - even as I realised that it's just an assumption on my side.

Even if I considered the old graphics to be superior, do I think it's worth it to argue my case in front of the designers of the expansion, if I feel I have only a few supporters across the board?

Anyway, these are just more or less philosophical considerations, which don't really pertain to the issues of HotA .

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don_komandorr
don_komandorr


Known Hero
posted April 14, 2015 04:33 PM

Salamandre said:
don_komandorr said:
pikeman big portrait.pcx, pikeman small portrait. pcx).
When you launch the game in HD mode, it'll use files from HD data prior to standart lods.


I was surprised of you saying HD will read single portraits from data and just tested it. It doesn't.


well at least with defs I'm 100% sure

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Salamandre
Salamandre


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posted April 14, 2015 04:34 PM

Me too ^^
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P4R4D0X0N
P4R4D0X0N


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posted April 14, 2015 06:27 PM

I like the new orcs also the helbardiers... I personally grow up with "furry" orcs from "the dark eye" not the greenish WoW ones, even with this perspective they look better in the asian version (pig like). It's an unique design for another unique species. Same for pikemen, the old version looked to similar to Marksman or Swordsman.

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hippox89
hippox89


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posted April 14, 2015 06:43 PM
Edited by hippox89 at 18:56, 14 Apr 2015.

Maurice said:
Of course, but this leads to a nice tangled web of personal opinions vs. those of others .


Sure, if you want to avoid starting a specific kind of discussion because you have another agenda (like wanting the original creature sprites back by modding) then I can see your point. In such a case, you'd might run some risk of derailing the topic from where you want it to go (finding a solution to what you want opposed to discussing why the classics or new sprites are better). At least it might simply be unnecessary to get specific.

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phoenix4ever
phoenix4ever


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Heroes is love, Heroes is life
posted April 14, 2015 07:12 PM
Edited by phoenix4ever at 19:17, 14 Apr 2015.

Wow, a lot of answers to my post regarding the old sprites, thank you guys, appreciate it.
I don't mean to be disrespectful but it would be nice if we at least had the option the use the old sprites.
What about orc-heroes like Jabarkas, is he going to be changed into a green pig too then? I don't really like the changes to the heroes portraits either, I know some Stronghold-heroes are changed, don't know if any other heroes are. Also does'nt this go against the teams principle of staying true to the original ideas, why do we need changes in creatures and heroes appearance and sound, when it has been like that for 15 years? Maybe it's just me, but there are certain things you don't change. Would be really be awesome if there was a HotA-version with the original creatures and heroes. Don't know if pikemen/halbardiers and orcs/orc chieftains have idle animations with their classic design, but if the team could make them for ALL the creatures, I am sure they could make them for these 2/4 classic creatures aswell if they don't have any. (They could just use the same animation as their newer kind)  

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Salamandre
Salamandre


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Wog refugee
posted April 14, 2015 07:20 PM

When Bersy released Era, Hota pikeman, orc and tree were inside. I didn't like them at start mostly because I was so used to old graphics so it confused me to see new graphics in battle. Then I just kept them and now I enjoy as much as old ones, is a matter of being used to, they are same quality also.

But while era can be modded and let the user do whatever he wants, Hota proposes an polished expansion, with creators choices, because as we know, when you aren't payed, at least have the satisfaction to offer your vision. Therefore, I can't understand the request of having this or that removed, just because you don't like a detail.

Of course, for perfectionists there is also the possibility to learn how to mod and bring graphic backs, it is really not that difficult, you open lods, extract defs, extract frames, replace frames, repack.

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phoenix4ever
phoenix4ever


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Heroes is love, Heroes is life
posted April 14, 2015 07:35 PM

Like I said I just don't think certain things should be changed, like creatures and heroes appearance. I don't know if most people like the new designs better, maybe they do, but the fact is that some people will also dislike or even hate the new designs. Why not give people an option to chose classic designs for creatures and heroes or new designs? That can hardly hurt the teams feelings. They should be allowed to do whatever it is they wanna do, but for people like me, it would be nice to have some things stay like they always were. I will never get used to or like those new creature and herodesigns, cause it instantly looked wrong to me and it still does.  

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husham123
husham123


Famous Hero
Yes
posted April 14, 2015 07:44 PM

Man, it shall appear in the next version, but keep calm.
The new ones are really awsome, but noone tooks it as disrespect. Because everyone has his own opinion, and choises, so SURE, you're going to get what you want one way or another. And what's this all about how they look ?
They are creatures used for tactics, so umm...
Eh, no problem, at least myself will solve it...
ONE WAY OR ANOTHER !!!...
Just kidding
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verriker
verriker


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We don't need another 'eroes
posted April 14, 2015 08:04 PM

phoenix4ever said:
What about orc-heroes like Jabarkas, is he going to be changed into a green pig too then?


lol, there are no orc heroes in Heroes 3
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phoenix4ever
phoenix4ever


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Heroes is love, Heroes is life
posted April 14, 2015 08:09 PM

husham123 I really have trouble understanding you sometimes. How can you say it will be like that in the next version, you don't know anything about that, do you? I wish it would, but I am not so sure.

Normally I like Stronghold but it's just really off-putting with the new creature and herodesigns.
Castle I always found kinda boring, but even more now with those bignoosed lazylooking pikemen and halbardiers.

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phoenix4ever
phoenix4ever


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posted April 14, 2015 08:13 PM

verriker said:
phoenix4ever said:
What about orc-heroes like Jabarkas, is he going to be changed into a green pig too then?


lol, there are no orc heroes in Heroes 3


Really?, well is he supposed to be an ogre then?, cause he does'nt look anything like the other ogre-heroes...

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husham123
husham123


Famous Hero
Yes
posted April 14, 2015 08:45 PM

phoenix4ever said:
husham123 I really have trouble understanding you sometimes. How can you say it will be like that in the next version, you don't know anything about that, do you? I wish it would, but I am not so sure.

Normally I like Stronghold but it's just really off-putting with the new creature and herodesigns.
Castle I always found kinda boring, but even more now with those bignoosed lazylooking pikemen and halbardiers.


It WILL appear in the next version. But I mean to choose between them, and it will because the more peoples don't like the new textures, then simply ,the more peoples won't play HotA.
Well, that's logically, but if it will not happen, then I don't know what will be the faith of HotA
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verriker
verriker


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We don't need another 'eroes
posted April 14, 2015 08:48 PM

phoenix4ever said:
Really?, well is he supposed to be an ogre then?, cause he does'nt look anything like the other ogre-heroes...


yes, check your manual lol
and he looks a lot like Dessa if you ask me
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Pellish
Pellish


Famous Hero
posted April 14, 2015 09:12 PM

husham123 said:
phoenix4ever said:
husham123 I really have trouble understanding you sometimes. How can you say it will be like that in the next version, you don't know anything about that, do you? I wish it would, but I am not so sure.

Normally I like Stronghold but it's just really off-putting with the new creature and herodesigns.
Castle I always found kinda boring, but even more now with those bignoosed lazylooking pikemen and halbardiers.


It WILL appear in the next version. But I mean to choose between them, and it will because the more peoples don't like the new textures, then simply ,the more peoples won't play HotA.
Well, that's logically, but if it will not happen, then I don't know what will be the faith of HotA


Do you even know what you are saying? First off do not speak for the HotA crew. Several people have already asked you to stop yet you continuously say things like "it WILL appear in the next version" even though what you're saying doesn't reflect the plans or opinions of the actual members of the crew at all.

And secondly, why would you speculate on the fate of HotA based on two creature .defs? Why would their fate be any different if they don't add your ridiculous idea regarding the ability to switch between defs? I suggest you stop posting in this thread since you don't seem to have any clue of what you're talking about.

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markmasters
markmasters


Famous Hero
Dragon of justice
posted April 14, 2015 09:57 PM

Refelcting on the new halberdier sprites: there has been a HOTA halberdier before current sprite, I liked that one most of all TBH the current one looks good but reminds me of spanish soldiers....

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pellish
pellish


Famous Hero
posted April 14, 2015 10:48 PM
Edited by pellish at 22:50, 14 Apr 2015.

husham123 said:
Man, ease up, I was just saying that the possibility is 100%, or the rating going low .
Whatever, don't expect me to talk with them, because I find ONLY trouble.


What ratings are you even talking about? I can guarantee you that HotA will not lose any fans just because they aren't adding the possibility to switch between the new .defs and the old ones. These assumptions are completely absurd claims based on YOUR opinion which quite frankly has proven to be nothing of value since all you've contributed with is lying about being a crew member and misleading people with strange claims such as the one we're discussing right now.

They changed the models of the orcs and pikemen for a reason. I bet they won't switch them back and most people are probably fine with that. If the models being switched annoys someone that much I suggest that person learns the basics of HoMM3 modding and manually change it back themselves.

Stop saying it's a "100% possibility" (whatever that means) that HotA will add this option. I bet it's not and even if it is you shouldn't state things like that given your history of lying. Nothing is 100% until it is released to the public.

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husham123
husham123


Famous Hero
Yes
posted April 14, 2015 10:53 PM

Hmm, let's see...
I was trying to talk that some peoples really enjoyed the other textures, but OK, man don't turn a tip into full hateness, because I really enjoy the new graphics, and gonna keep beign a fan, because of the most AWSOMEST add-on I saw.
Onto the lying past,...
It was nothing more than mistake.
If you look behind, then I guess you done that much mistakes as I've done.
Well, this is how a good man starts, but tooks hard to change.
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