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Thread: [Official Thread] HoMM 3: Horn of the Abyss - Announcements, Questions, Features This Super Thread is 549 pages long: 1 70 140 ... 150 151 152 153 154 ... 210 280 350 420 490 549 · «PREV / NEXT»
Salamandre
Salamandre


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
posted September 20, 2015 11:16 PM

Nope, it has nothing to do with that question, fred says everyone will be able to use it. Isn't a bit dumb that everyone says "wow I want to play with your patch" but none of those actually gave it a run on the correct platform -based on comments in his thread?

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phoenix4ever
phoenix4ever


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Heroes is love, Heroes is life
posted September 21, 2015 12:16 AM

Okay no sense in discussing this anymore. All we are saying is that it would be nice to see Fred's graphics in HotA, of course that is not only up to Fred, but we can still hope. Some of us may only play HotA, so we don't really care about VCMI or any other platforms out there...

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Galaad
Galaad

Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
posted September 21, 2015 02:12 AM

phoenix4ever said:
Some of us may only play HotA, so we don't really care about VCMI or any other platforms out there...

You don't really care about bothering the hota thread either. HotA do what they do, they're not selling a product, a lot of us are happy with their (free) work, and for the nth time, there is a separate thread for wishes.
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phoenix4ever
phoenix4ever


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posted September 21, 2015 08:43 AM

Apparently you don't care about "bothering" the HotA thread either and for the nth time I do use that wishlist thread already.

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fred79
fred79


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Undefeatable Hero
posted September 30, 2015 05:32 AM

i sent you an hcm, nik.

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Questioneer
Questioneer

Tavern Dweller
posted October 01, 2015 10:19 PM

Might be a stupid question, but I didn't find the answer after looking around for a little while.

I just installed the game, and it works great! However, when starting a new game and clicking the Campaign button, I only see the new Campaign, and not the old ones as well. I'm currently itching to replay a few of the original campaigns, with some of the balancing that was introduced in this mod. Currently, it looks to me like I have to choose between either the old campaigns, or the new mod. Is there a way around this?

Thanks a lot in advance for any replies!

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frostymuaddib
frostymuaddib


Promising
Supreme Hero
育碧是白痴
posted October 01, 2015 10:33 PM

Original campaigns are not supported. You can download those campaigns and play them as custom ones, but some win/loss conditions won't work properly.

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P4R4D0X0N
P4R4D0X0N


Famous Hero
posted October 02, 2015 03:42 PM

Same a a few pages ago: Start SoD, AB, Era *.exe for the old campains.

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Salamandre
Salamandre


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
posted October 02, 2015 03:45 PM

Not Era, will not work until 2.47 (next, if one day).
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ohm-low
ohm-low

Tavern Dweller
posted October 02, 2015 05:43 PM

Hey all,

Just started playing Heroes 3 again, and came across this lovely mod!

Set out and built me a gigantic map, sadly I noticed once the map was finished that there seems to be limitations on how much stuff a map can be packed with before it crashes, to explain that in more detail: you can start a game and play it just fine, but once you save and try to load that saved game, it will crash.

Is this a known problem, is there any fixes for it?
The game spits out a error log for each crash (I've sent one to the allotted e-mail), but I'll happily put one up here if it will be of use to someone.

Thanks in advance.
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Sav
Sav


Known Hero
posted October 03, 2015 09:55 AM

You've probably sent log to baratorch's (HD-mod creator) mail.
Better place log in that thread: http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?TID=39912&pagenumber=9

Such hidden limitations are usually not very hard to fix. It is harder to find them, because the only way is to create and test maps with huge amount of objects of different types.

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Bluts
Bluts


Hired Hero
posted October 05, 2015 05:50 PM

Hello HotA! First of all I love the mod. My only complain is that Conflux feels over nerfed. First the need of magic university to upgrade magic lantern.... In most of my games I manage to upgrade my pixies way after I upgrade my air and water elementals and at that point they kinda become useless fodder. And second the phoenix overall price and growth... I admit that it had to be nerfed, but the combination of the two kinda seems wayyy too much. My point is that compared to other 7th level creatures the phoenixes are the weakest ( dmg attack defense health ) Their only forte is their speed and the almost certain first turn in combat. Compared to an Archangel - they are more than twice weaker but 2 phoenixes cost more than 1 archangel ( even an angel is stronger than a phoenix and costs the same ). The phoenixes need at least a little boost to their attack/def, to make them worth as much as other 7 lvl creatures or something in those lines or at least nerf the price to 2500.
The best thing about conflux is its first level creatures (2nd and 3rd) which are on par with a 4th lvl creature, but the inability to resurrect makes them weak late game, because you lose a big chunk of them almost every fight against a hero or town - I personally find kinda useless the fire and earth elementals ( kinda weak compared to other 4th and 5th lvl creatures ), the psychic elemental is also physically weak and butchering the pixies and phoenixes make the conflux the weakest race imo.
So late game I just hold to the phoenixes for the first turn in combat, and my whole army consists of anything other than creatures from the conflux.
Oh and forgot that there should be a way to nerf the diplomacy especially with necro heroes.
ps. Well I just had to name my concerns xD
Most likely nothing of this will be considered, but anyways I love ya all Pls continue your awesome work
Oh and will AI ever become a worthy opponent ? Even having 7 in a team is boring if they can't amass army and don't cast berserk.
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phoenix4ever
phoenix4ever


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Heroes is love, Heroes is life
posted October 06, 2015 09:11 AM

Conflux seems pretty balanced to me now. It is diffenrent from the other towns because of the elementals. But their strength lies in the Magic University. Have you ever cast Bless on storm or ice elemetals or how about Clone on phoenixes (With Eovacius!) You can also stick with the last 4 units and go for Armageddon!
This is also one of the towns that might get artifact merchants and shipyard and their grail is exceptional. Conflux has it's weaknesses, but they also have their strengths and they are still the town who produces most level 7 units and they are fire immune, ultra fast, has breath weapon and rebirth. So overall I would say Conflux is pretty balanced now, same with Necropolis sinced they nerfed necromancy.

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Bluts
Bluts


Hired Hero
posted October 06, 2015 03:50 PM

Yep with bless they are awesome, but curse can be their downfall too xD
and one orb of inhibition is enough when playing against conflux because overall their dmg is very variable, have weak defense, low health and they focus on heavy spell casting. No one would attack with their phoenixes on first move then, because they will be doomed.
As for necros, I don't play them because they are too op, but almost every game on the bigger maps I end up with a necro hero having thousands of liches xD - not that hard combining the artifact ( and usually with diplomacy - overkill )
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phoenix4ever
phoenix4ever


Legendary Hero
Heroes is love, Heroes is life
posted October 06, 2015 04:01 PM

I think Conflux is okay now, but you might disagree.
Necropolis is also fine now imo, but if Cloak Of The Undead King is available they are still insane. That's why I dissable Amulet Of The Undertaker, so Cloak Of The Undead King can't be created.
You should try to play Necropolis without Amulet Of The Undertaker, then they are fine.

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P4R4D0X0N
P4R4D0X0N


Famous Hero
posted October 06, 2015 07:25 PM

Conflux plays damn chunky, same as it was before... boring heroes with tons of dublicated specialties... For me personaly boring to play, big point is mindspell imunity and unliving character of elements also the grail is damn fine. As for the nerfs, phoenix is ok to me but I agree with missing hitpoints.

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Bluts
Bluts


Hired Hero
posted October 06, 2015 09:19 PM

phoenix4ever said:

You should try to play Necropolis without Amulet Of The Undertaker, then they are fine.

How do you disable it :? ( not playing ERA and playing only random maps ) - btw I've encountered a lot of random maps without the amulet, but you can still get it as a random starting artifact xD
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phoenix4ever
phoenix4ever


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posted October 06, 2015 09:30 PM
Edited by phoenix4ever at 22:02, 06 Oct 2015.

Conflux is the town with 3rd most hp, only surpassed by Rampart and Tower. If anyone needs hp it's Inferno.

@Bluts If you open Map Editor and open the map you wanna play you can choose artifacts under one of the tabs (Can't remember exactly where and my pc does'nt work at the moment) then you can pick which artifacts can appear, same with spells and heroes. I have been playing around a lot with that stuff, also changing some heroes starting skills...
EDIT: Sorry if you meant random maps, then I can't help you.

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nik312
nik312


Promising
Famous Hero
posted October 07, 2015 10:20 AM

Bluts said:
phoenix4ever said:

You should try to play Necropolis without Amulet Of The Undertaker, then they are fine.

How do you disable it :? ( not playing ERA and playing only random maps ) - btw I've encountered a lot of random maps without the amulet, but you can still get it as a random starting artifact xD


If you feel that some gameplay element is too OP in singleplayer - just don't use it. You don't need to disable the amulet, just don't assemble the Cloak. Some day in the future it will be banned from assembling by default, but until then you can utilize any restrictions yourself. Same with diplomacy and expert DD.

As for conflux and other towns strengths/weaknesses - all of the towns are being balanced for effective play. I'm currently recording an overview tutorial on effective usage of each towns strenghts, but it's gonna take a while. Conflux' main strenghts are high speed units, awesome heroes (with an absolute top mage hero in the game - Luna) and the presence of Red Towers on the map. If you feel some town as underpowered - you are probably not utilizing it to its maximum

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phoenix4ever
phoenix4ever


Legendary Hero
Heroes is love, Heroes is life
posted October 07, 2015 12:26 PM
Edited by phoenix4ever at 12:33, 07 Oct 2015.

@Nik
Yeah we can restrict ourselves from being too cruel against poor ai, but if you play as Necropolis and collect the 3 necromancy artifacts, it only seems natural to assemble Cloak Of The Undead King. Maybe you can resist the urge to assemble the cloak, but what about people you are playing with or ai? But does that mean the cloak can't be assembled in a future HotA update? And Diplomacy and DD is being nerfed? What about TP? I feel Earth Magic is way too powerfull... Imo TP and DD should belong to all schools, so Earth and Air does'nt feel as OP anymore.
Looking forward to future updates for HotA.

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