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Thread: [Official Thread] HoMM 3: Horn of the Abyss - Announcements, Questions, Features This Super Thread is 516 pages long: 1 60 120 180 240 300 360 ... 419 420 421 422 423 ... 480 516 · «PREV / NEXT»
bloodsucker
bloodsucker


Legendary Hero
posted June 02, 2020 12:01 PM
Edited by bloodsucker at 12:03, 02 Jun 2020.

pizdabol said:
Did they finish off the stacks in meele? Could it be the AI choses not to waste ammo if meele would destroy the stack.

Do you have the slightest idea how coding is done?
Yeah! A few hundred sharpshooters will kill 30 wolfs.
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dataved
dataved

Tavern Dweller
posted June 03, 2020 09:39 PM
Edited by dataved at 21:41, 03 Jun 2020.

[RMG][Feature Request] Please make rivers

Hi Gruk, folks,

I get a feedback on my map [1] that generated water is not interesting enough.

Most of map makers create narrow rivers instead of massive bodies of water. This looks like more interesting option.

Can we have narrow streams when the water quantity is set to normal? Maybe with small lakes hosting bigger objects.

Thanks!

[1] https://www.maps4heroes.com/forum/opinions.php?map_id=1883&game=3

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bloodsucker
bloodsucker


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posted June 04, 2020 12:12 AM

dataved said:
I get a feedback on my map [1] that generated water is not interesting enough.
This is a map you created using a special template? I will take a look when I finish some in my list right now.
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dataved
dataved

Tavern Dweller
posted June 04, 2020 05:42 PM
Edited by dataved at 17:43, 04 Jun 2020.

Here is the link to the template https://github.com/leshikus/longwar/blob/master/Death%20from%20Below/rmg.txt

bloodsucker said:
dataved said:
I will take a look when I finish some in my list right now.


Thanks!

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bloodsucker
bloodsucker


Legendary Hero
posted June 04, 2020 05:58 PM

I don't believe that will work. The indentation is quite important to the templates function and the only way I'm finding to get it is copy/paste the text. I bet that will screw it. I have no time to test it right now but...
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capron
capron

Tavern Dweller
posted June 10, 2020 02:47 PM
Edited by capron at 14:49, 10 Jun 2020.

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LeoAllenHan
LeoAllenHan

Tavern Dweller
posted June 10, 2020 05:27 PM

That's a great job. The more friends acting to find bugs in it, the better the HD mod and other mods will have been developed.

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Tordah
Tordah


Adventuring Hero
posted June 11, 2020 01:58 AM

Regarding capron's post i have managed to make it continually work under linux for quite some time now thanks to wine being a formidable software.

if anyone ever sees this and needs any help feel free to contact me lmao

i am a little late on the magic school balancing argument but i'd like to say i feel fire magic is a little underpowered when it comes to fighting (damages a little to low on spells and doesn't scale as well as other school's offensive options) and it also has very few map spells so it somewhat feels like a double disadvantage.

Many of its offensive spells are also either very situational or mediocre or both;

Take Frenzy for example and compare it to bloodlust, a level 1 fire magic spell. With expert skill level, bloodlust costs way less, affects all your units instead of one and in some cases (for low def creatures) give a better bonus to certain stacks.

Fire Shield is good on paper, but compared to other options falls short.

Slayer is very good, very situationally. It's useless against certain factions altogether.

I have found no real use for land mind even against the computer, and fire wall is only good against the AI making an obvious flaw.

and misfortune is trash lol

And the list goes on.

Yet my three favorite spells are Blind Fireball and Berserk. lol.

Fixing Inferno could work. Two things, first Xyron cannot cast it on first day (compared to Solmyr's chain lightning) and last i recall it wasn't registering well on certains stacks.

And reducing the MP cost would help. I agree fireball should cost more than frost ring per say, but maybe not 33% more (from 9 to 12 at expert) and definitively not the same as meteor shower at expert (while meteor shower does 100 + 25p vs 60+10p for fireball)


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wojtulace
wojtulace


Hired Hero
posted June 13, 2020 01:47 PM

I'd like dmg spells to scale better into late game. Also, maybe AoE buffs and debuffs shouldn't be global, but have reach like in HoMM V.

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kyjoz18
kyjoz18

Tavern Dweller
posted June 14, 2020 08:12 PM

Hi.

i'm about to start my journey with HoMMIII. I've only played about 500 hours in HoMM5 ,40 hours H6 and 10 hours in H7. My question is. Does Horn addon changes anything with base game? I mean complete edition without fan addons. Or is it pure new content for campaign? Should i play Homm3 complete first or start right away with this and hd mod ?

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Rimgrabber
Rimgrabber


Famous Hero
Voice in Gelu's Head
posted June 14, 2020 08:21 PM

You can't play the vanilla campaigns with HotA as far as I know so play through those first if you're interested in them. Otherwise, just skip to HotA.
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Greenpakto
Greenpakto


Adventuring Hero
posted June 15, 2020 03:18 AM

Rimgrabber said:
You can't play the vanilla campaigns with HotA as far as I know so play through those first if you're interested in them. Otherwise, just skip to HotA.


Wait, what, you can't? Why not??

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Promising
Supreme Hero
posted June 15, 2020 06:42 AM

Everyone hota user knows why not. Just launch the game and try.
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Mursilis
Mursilis


Hired Hero
posted June 15, 2020 09:54 AM
Edited by Mursilis at 09:57, 15 Jun 2020.

It is possible to put the H3 Complete campaigns in the "Maps" folder and play them as Custom Campaigns, but the intro cutseens and some interfaces will not work.

PD: Please, HotA Crew. Add the original campaigns to HotA. It would be great!

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Promising
Supreme Hero
posted June 15, 2020 10:30 AM
Edited by avatar at 10:33, 15 Jun 2020.

Mursilis said:

PD: Please, HotA Crew. Add the original campaigns to HotA. It would be great!

I can't see any reason of adding them to HotA main screen. We can always play them with Heroes3 Complete + HD mod features. Custom maps are... custom. When original creators made them, they didn't have hota graphics so in those campaigns we won't have possiblity to play Cove or use hota new banks or atrifacts.
Besides, HotA changes some mechanics. For example - they nerfed Logistics. But in some maps we have time limit. Are you sure it's reachable with weaker Logistics? They'll plan to rework some magic and spells. I don't think it won't affect playability of original campaigns. So HotA devs must do rework campaigns with every patch. But reworking means not to play ORIGINAL campaigns.

So, adding standard campaigns wouldn't be great if you think wider a while. The best option is still playing them under h3+hd mod combination.

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It is possible to put the H3 Complete campaigns in the "Maps" folder and play them as Custom Campaigns, but the intro cutseens and some interfaces will not work.

And some other bugs appear, like missing crucial artifacts to win scenario or missing heroes from one map to another or many less or worse bugs as we can read in other topics.
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LordInsane
LordInsane


Known Hero
posted June 15, 2020 11:47 AM

I have seen some talk from HOTA folk of at some point bringing the original campaigns back in, altered to work with HOTA. I'd call that a good thing, except it also came with ideas of making them harder on the apparent belief that everyone playing HOTA is already a veteran HOMM3 player... which, as this discussion hints at, isn't a reliable assumption (HOTA, honestly, is too ensconced as a 'third expansion' as something that can get recommended to new players as kind of a default).

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UntalentedHero
UntalentedHero


Hired Hero
posted June 15, 2020 05:22 PM

I don't know if it would be worth adapting the original campaigns to HoTA, but I think that it would be interesting to replace the portraits of the heroes of the Armageddon's Blade campaign and the elemental heroes of Conflux for others more consistent with the original hand-drawn style, because, in my opinion, the 3D portraits look pretty ugly. I mean, look at some of them:










Maybe it sounds stupid, but sometimes I avoid playing certain heroes because of their bad-looking portraits. A good portrait could make a lot of them more attractive to play.

I think also that some of the hero portraits of Stronghold or Fortress need an improvement too (many are a copy and paste of others), but I believe that Conflux and Armageddon's heroes need more the revision.

Some example of copy-pastes on Stronghold and Fortress:







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FirePaladin
FirePaladin


Legendary Hero
DoR Modder
posted June 15, 2020 05:28 PM
Edited by FirePaladin at 18:11, 15 Jun 2020.

I've no problem with the 3D portraits, tbh. If possible, the NWC guys might have made them all 3D portraits, just like in Might and Magic, but since we're talking about year 1999, it wasn't worth the effort. And even then, as you mentioned, they just copy-pasted some portraits for non-human characters, since it wasn't worth making another face for another goblin.

Also, are you sure all of them are fully 3D? Some can be hybrids based on the 3D shape (like the Magma Elemental).
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Greenpakto
Greenpakto


Adventuring Hero
posted June 15, 2020 06:01 PM
Edited by Greenpakto at 18:04, 15 Jun 2020.

UntalentedHero said:
I don't know if it would be worth adapting the original campaigns to HoTA, but I think that it would be interesting to replace the portraits of the heroes of the Armageddon's Blade campaign and the elemental heroes of Conflux for others more consistent with the original hand-drawn style, because, in my opinion, the 3D portraits look pretty ugly. I mean, look at some of them:










Maybe it sounds stupid, but sometimes I avoid playing certain heroes because of their bad-looking portraits. A good portrait could make a lot of them more attractive to play.

I think also that some of the hero portraits of Stronghold or Fortress need an improvement too (many are a copy and paste of others), but I believe that Conflux and Armageddon's heroes need more the revision.

Some example of copy-pastes on Stronghold and Fortress:









Agreed. Horrible portraits. Magma looks decent.

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Tevye
Tevye


Hired Hero
posted June 16, 2020 01:57 AM
Edited by Tevye at 02:00, 16 Jun 2020.

Original campaigns ARE coming to HotA. This has long been in our plans. Obviously, we have a lot on our hands at the moment, but this will happen at some point. Naturally, they will be adapted to feature all new mechanics and account for balance tweaks.

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