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Ghost
Undefeatable Hero
Therefore I am
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posted September 28, 2021 09:28 AM |
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AI never picked Learning but random hero. The most in the RoE, AI also never picked Earth in the RoE. Because of red orb. AB AIs pick a Earth but never picked red orb. Then Learning still. I don't know about HotA. If skill or artifact or spell doesn't allow to AI. It means a good.
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evildustructor
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Pizza Man dominos pizza yummy
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posted September 28, 2021 06:43 PM |
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lol i thought you people couldn't be more salty and give more weird complaints than phoenix but damn you people like to complain over stuff that really doesnt matter in the long run. like wtf hahaha they can't monetize their product and the product is already both extremely popular and very well done, why do you people expect everything to be solved in 1 second
secondary skill balance takes a lot of time to consider, the h3 fanbase is extremely hardcore in both traditionalist ways and multiplayer balance ways. you can't just slap on something like you guys are suggesting, it takes a lot of discussion time and there are a lot of factors to consider in the big picture. aesthetics are pretty much subjective tbh cuz i think they are cool af
show some appreciation for the crew instead, trust me they do care and they do read these weird complaints with basically no logic behind them
excited for the next patch, keep the amazing work going <3
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Macron1
Supreme Hero
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posted September 28, 2021 07:18 PM |
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evildustructor said:
trust me they do care and they do read these weird complaints
Lol
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evildustructor
Known Hero
Pizza Man dominos pizza yummy
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posted September 28, 2021 08:20 PM |
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Macron1 said:
evildustructor said:
trust me they do care and they do read these weird complaints
Lol
thank you for proving my point further that this forum truly is a great place these days 
pls stop having delusions and keep the attitude positive/constructive  or dont post at all really this everlasting whining and nitpicking is getting tiresome lmao
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NimoStar
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Modding the Unmoddable
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posted September 28, 2021 08:24 PM |
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And how would "logic" come about withoud discussion?
Not that there's much to discuss about Eagle Eye being an useless skill.
HotA team is lazy in many ways, deal with it. Changing resistance for the worse but not changing useless skills isn't "logic".
Of course thi doesn't invalidate the good work they have done but people are human and humans are fallible. HotA team is not the holy father. Personally I prefer ERA + custom mods.
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evildustructor
Known Hero
Pizza Man dominos pizza yummy
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posted September 28, 2021 08:36 PM |
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you guys keep to prove my point even further lol
the discussion is entry level baby whining atm, really. it's not a positive discussion. you guys are simply stating obvious stuff that literally every single player has thought of, like how eagle eye sucks. why not discuss even further important topics? like how cove has 3 upgrades on their tier 3 unit (wtf!!! damn!!!!) and mighty gorgon ability! stronghold is op they have crag hack he is so cool!
still the same 10 people who whine constantly at stupid things and expect AAAAAAAAAA+ gamedev customer support in english 24/7 from a team that does this in their free time out of passion for the games
calm your nerdiness and just simply stay tuned for their updates please  you can follow updates on vk/fb/their official forum, it's a wonder that they even consider this place lol even the hota discord has a better attitude and thats saying alot
hopefully they know the majority on this forum isnt NimoStar who really wants everyone to know his superior modding preferences and calling people lazy when its easily the most high quality mod out there by industry standards lm ao,, we can keep the discussion at how pointless everything is because the universe is eternal and that's technically true but who wants to discuss that snow why is human nature even relevant in this scenario, just keep the snow positive otherwise there's really no point in sitting here arguing in circles and then blaming the devs for "not communicating" when they actually do regular updates lmao
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Hourglass
Famous Hero
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posted September 28, 2021 08:41 PM |
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Like yeah...
A dude drops by and leaves a "thank you" for a mod that he likes playing. For some reason, people that are not even playing Hota are jumping in to downplay the team and telling they are playing something else? I just don't get it. What do you people want? For some reason, I'm not seeing anyone in Era threads telling why they're rather playing Hota, nor I'm seeing why anybody would bother going to Homm4 forums telling how their game stinks and why they are rather playing something else.
Have you guys ever considered that the mod isn't necessary being made for your taste, therefore there's basically zero sense leaving your "opinion" every month or so. There are real people that like playing Hota, I don't see why it bother you so much.
HC has been toxic place for a while, and I don't see it becoming much better in future.
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RerryR
Promising
Supreme Hero
Researching Magic
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posted September 28, 2021 08:45 PM |
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woha you people really can't take a single point of criticism without starting to cry.
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evildustructor
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Pizza Man dominos pizza yummy
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posted September 28, 2021 08:57 PM |
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RerryR said:
woha you people really can't take a single point of criticism without starting to cry.
hahajhjhhhahahhaha
easy to backpedal and act as if ppl are oversensitive after leaving snowty criticism lmao wp brother. just leave ur negative attitude elsewhere if you do not have anything constructive to say its as simple as that
if an objective judge were to analyze who's crying in this 500 page thread it'll be easy to recognize the same 10 people snowing each other off
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DarkAtom
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posted September 28, 2021 09:00 PM |
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There have been a few feature requests (fixing trash secondary skills being the main one) that, over time, got repeated over and over again. The Crew clearly heard these requests. Some secondary skills got changed/balanced/whatever (Logistics, Interference etc.). These changes might have been necessary, or they might have not, but it doesn't matter. They are part of the game now, just like the lots of trash that NWC added and we got used to it over time.
It's obvious that the Crew has already read these "buff Eagle Eye, buff Learning" requests. They may be interested in fixing them or they may not. Repeatedly requesting won't make them change their mind.
The Crew promised the Factory faction and nothing else for the next version. What makes you think that spamming the thread will make them add other changes too?
TL;DR: Anything that could ever be said about Learning and Eagle Eye was already said hundreds of time on multiple threads for a couple of years now. Requesting the same things again will not change what the HotA team will do.
Hourglass said:
HC has been toxic place for a while, and I don't see it becoming much better in future.
Especially the HotA threads. The other mods seem to have a more calm community.
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RerryR
Promising
Supreme Hero
Researching Magic
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posted September 28, 2021 09:08 PM |
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evildustructor said:
RerryR said:
woha you people really can't take a single point of criticism without starting to cry.
hahajhjhhhahahhaha
easy to backpedal and act as if ppl are oversensitive after leaving snowty criticism lmao wp brother. just leave ur negative attitude elsewhere if you do not have anything constructive to say its as simple as that
if an objective judge were to analyze who's crying in this 500 page thread it'll be easy to recognize the same 10 people snowing each other off
negative attitude, snowy criticism? damn you really blowing this story up. I barely said a word. Am I not allowed to post anything here?
The only negative attitude comes from you, calling me toxic. I consider this is a friendly discussion. Maybe you should relax a little.
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NimoStar
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Modding the Unmoddable
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posted September 28, 2021 09:46 PM |
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If there is no criticism then the thread doesn't even have activity as each news piece takes months. Besides, saying "thank you for the mod" isn't less repetitive than saying "Buff eagle eye" (or, in my case, "Return resistance"  )
As a modder I don't have any problem taking constructive criticism (I even request it), the only problem would be people saying "wah this sucks I hate this!", but that isn't what's happening here, is it?
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FirePaladin
Legendary Hero
DoR Modder
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posted September 28, 2021 10:57 PM |
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Why do you guys even bother listening to Ghost anyway? He just rants about some random stuff. Doing that would have saved this thread of 1 page that's basically repeating what was said a few hundreds of times already.
evildustructor said:
trust me they do care and they do read these weird complaints with basically no logic behind them
I for one wouldn't be entitled to say anything about them reading complaints and caring or not (since I don't remember what and if they said anything about that), but I do know for sure that they have a vision and they're sticking to it, and that whatever goes around the community won't change that vision (one can revisit a few pages earlier for this).
NimoStar said:
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HotA team is lazy in many ways, deal with it.
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People have busy lives, including HotA Crew.
RerryR said:
negative attitude, snowy criticism? damn you really blowing this story up. I barely said a word. Am I not allowed to post anything here?
The only negative attitude comes from you, calling me toxic. I consider this is a friendly discussion. Maybe you should relax a little.
I kinda have to agree here, sometimes the so-called "toxicity" isn't that bad, and in many cases it's just Ghost spouting some random stuff lol.
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Hourglass
Famous Hero
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posted September 28, 2021 11:11 PM |
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NimoStar said:
If there is no criticism then the thread doesn't even have activity as each news piece takes months. Besides, saying "thank you for the mod" isn't less repetitive than saying "Buff eagle eye" (or, in my case, "Return resistance" )
Criticism is always important for any project. However, just criticizing things for the sake of "adding conversation" or "keeping the thread alive" isn't helping the project in either short or long term. After the Docent past away, the team doesn't seem to have anyone that would be interested of typing down every piece of new information. Personally, I too feel that's a bummer, but in all honesty, it's their work and hobby, and they can choose to do things as they wish. It should also be mentioned that not every one of them is necessary typing fluent English (or feel like it). And just look at this discussion culture.
Also, at this point, all the "known faces" of the Hota thread basically know each other's stand and opinions, and anyone that even relatively often visits the thread knows them too. I could see how a discussion related to Town portal, Multiplayer, Interference or perhaps Eagle Eye would play out here, if such discussion would be started today. Therefore, if an argument coming from user X is already known, it doesn't really even count as a real, constructive criticism, it's rather an continuous outcry coming from a certain user, which isn't really helping anyone.
Besides, saying "thank you" isn't repetitive, as long as it's not coming for same user after each passing week. The dude who said thank you literally has 10 posts under his belt.
NimoStar said:
The only problem would be people saying "wah this sucks I hate this!", but that isn't what's happening here, is it?
I would love to agree with you. Unfortunately, I don't see this thread being exactly positive, or even a safe place for a developer to come by. It's no wonder why we haven't really seen them for awhile.
RerryR said:
I barely said a word. Am I not allowed to post anything here?
The only negative attitude comes from you, calling me toxic. I consider this is a friendly discussion. Maybe you should relax a little.
Come on, Rerry. You just couldn't let the first guy to say "thank you" without starting to criticize the project, could you? I mean, this isn't exactly the first time you have done that. You are free to do as you wish, but don't be surprised if you find yourself getting criticized, if the same thing is coming from you over and over again.
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FirePaladin
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DoR Modder
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posted September 28, 2021 11:17 PM |
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Hourglass said:
I would love to agree with you. Unfortunately, I don't see this thread being exactly positive, or even a safe place for a developer to come by. It's no wonder why we haven't really seen them for awhile.
To be frank about that, I'm pretty sure that they've been a bit less active on the Russian forums too (but I might be wrong), and they don't really reply here anyway, regardless of the thread's attitude (but they do visit this place regularly). It's also partially a matter of language barrier as far as I'm aware, in some cases (again, don't take my word for granted here either lol).
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Phoenix4ever
Legendary Hero
Heroes is love, Heroes is life
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posted September 28, 2021 11:30 PM |
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@evildustructor
I'm not salty, I have been a good boy for a while. Or maybe I have grown soft getting old.
At the moment I'm just trying to be patient. Really hope we get Factory at New Years.
I could care less about skills, I have already done with them what I want.
You still have to admit it's weird how they changed a perfectly fine skill (Resistance) and still ignore completely useless skills like Learning, First Aid and Eagle Eye.
HotA has existed for about 10 years and still they have'nt done anything about these 3 skills, they are only there to be avoided like the plague and that includes all heroes starting with or even worse specialising in these useless skills. It's really a shame.
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Hourglass
Famous Hero
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posted September 28, 2021 11:37 PM |
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FirePaladin said:
To be frank about that, I'm pretty sure that they've been a bit less active on the Russian forums too (but I might be wrong), and they don't really reply here anyway, regardless of the thread's attitude (but they do visit this place regularly).
Not sure how long you were lurking here before you made an account, or if you have read the old posts within this topic.
This thread even had it's own "public relations" guy, but he disappeared soon after the "certain patch" rolled out. Could be a coincidence, but then again, usually in life it's easier to talk to people that actually do like and use your product, rather than to people that dislike it and are not even using it.
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FirePaladin
Legendary Hero
DoR Modder
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posted September 28, 2021 11:46 PM |
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I did read older convos, though it's really early ones.
Could be that too, I guess.
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NimoStar
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Modding the Unmoddable
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posted September 29, 2021 12:39 AM |
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I believe a "Love it or hate it but don't comment" attitude is worse than some criticism.
Don't think the PR representative would find very interesting to interact with fanatics, as they already conduct themselves as if they were PR representatives of the mod in their own right
And anyways, those were different times. Now there is a lot less activity in general, and much slower development. Cove passed several released iterations in less than half the time that Factory has been waited for.
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Ghost
Undefeatable Hero
Therefore I am
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posted September 29, 2021 06:33 AM |
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@FirePaladin
A few of times have enough. You don't know about me. I gave an answer. Thats all.
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