|
|
hippox89
Famous Hero
|
posted June 05, 2014 02:54 PM |
|
Edited by hippox89 at 15:13, 05 Jun 2014.
|
Galaad said:
hippox89 said:
I don't think they fit too well at all with the style used for the original portraits drawn by NWC.
I have to strongly disagree with this. IMO HoTA is so popular precisely because it respects carefuly original spirit, graphic-wise, gameplay-wise etc, in addition of a new fully playable town.
Umm, I think you might be misunderstanding something here.
I'm talking about how some of the Cove protraits differ to widely from the original style(s). As I expanded on, it's the fact that some of them look too much like taken out of real life. I'm not criticising other details about them. Like, what they wearing, their expressions, etc (not today at least  ).
Also, I should add that I don't mind a little lore in random maps, like the hero descriptions. I'm just saying that you can make the lore fit, so that you can have Nix heroes, too.
|
|
Dj
Promising
Supreme Hero
Always loyal to HC
|
|
posted June 05, 2014 03:17 PM |
|
|
|
have you checked the campaign heroes so you could play in a specific map? you have this option in the map editor, you know...
|
|
hippox89
Famous Hero
|
|
posted June 05, 2014 03:22 PM |
|
Edited by hippox89 at 15:24, 05 Jun 2014.
|
Dj said:
have you checked the campaign heroes so you could play in a specific map? you have this option in the map editor, you know...
I have no idea what your point is. I'm discussing Cove design.
|
|
Dj
Promising
Supreme Hero
Always loyal to HC
|
|
posted June 05, 2014 03:26 PM |
|
|
|
im saying that in the map editor you have a list of all heroes [includig the campaign ones] and if you check your so-desired nix hero you could play with him in a specific scenario. there, you have a nix hero and a larger gamma of races in cove hero line-up.
|
|
hippox89
Famous Hero
|
|
posted June 05, 2014 03:34 PM |
|
Edited by hippox89 at 15:50, 05 Jun 2014.
|
Dj said:
im saying that in the map editor you have a list of all heroes [includig the campaign ones] and if you check your so-desired nix hero you could play with him in a specific scenario. there, you have a nix hero and a larger gamma of races in cove hero line-up.
How's that relevent? Why would I enable campaign heroes by editing a random map? That's not really what this is about. As I said, I'm discussing parts of the Cove town. I get you don't agree, okay? You can stop whatever you're trying to do.
Edit:
It's amazing how some just cannot stand critique/disscussion about HotA that they feel like they should personally defend HotA like if some lady was in need of protection from a bully (sometimes by being petty).
|
|
Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
|
|
posted June 05, 2014 04:35 PM |
|
|
hippox89 said:
I'm discussing Cove design.
Yes but I don't see your point either, Cove portraits looks just fine to me.
And that's a strange way to thank Dj for showing you a workaround.
|
|
hippox89
Famous Hero
|
|
posted June 05, 2014 05:26 PM |
|
Edited by hippox89 at 17:29, 05 Jun 2014.
|
Galaad said:
Yes but I don't see your point either, Cove portraits looks just fine to me.
Sure, that's your opinion.
Galaad said:
And that's a strange way to thank Dj for showing you a workaround.
It's also about tone, and why you write something. I don't need to thank him. Thank you. I suggest you PM me if more replies is needed if this isn't to turn into some kind of flame war.
|
|
blueskirt
Adventuring Hero
|
|
posted June 05, 2014 06:05 PM |
|
|
|
In my opinion, the portraits in HOTA fit much more than the Armageddon's Blade portraits. There is something that could be said regarding the portrait variety, how most Cove heroes are human compared to the other factions where there are generally six humans and ten creatures, but if I recall correctly, two of the long term goals of HOTA are to add alternate creatures to all towns and extend the number of heroes for every factions to accommodate large multiplayer games, whenever that will happen, the variety of the Cove portraits can be fixed but in the meantime it's all fine.
|
|
gatecrasher
Famous Hero
|
|
posted June 05, 2014 07:44 PM |
|
|
|
Given the latest graphical tweaks we've been presented with I see the HotA crew rather remastering classic portraits than blurring the HotA ones.
|
|
nik312
Promising
Famous Hero
|
|
posted June 05, 2014 08:47 PM |
|
Edited by nik312 at 21:05, 05 Jun 2014.
|
As for this time, hippox, I don't really take your point 
I feel that Cove's hero lineup is fine on diversity (no wonder, that pirates-islanders are mostly humans). And Cove's portraits I think look pretty consistent, even though they are (no foolish boasting here) of higher quality. And yes, we have an idea to improve vanilla portraits as well 
I actually think that you've spent a lot of time investigating HotA precisely to help us find tiniest flaws and inconsistencies and therefore your sight became a bit overconcentrated.
I'm not saying it's something bad, I'm just saying this is probably the situation  . If I'm right then I'd just recommend to relax a bit and get pleasure from the game as it is (for now). If I'm wrong - then read only the first paragraph 
|
|
hippox89
Famous Hero
|
|
posted June 05, 2014 09:56 PM |
|
Edited by hippox89 at 10:50, 06 Jun 2014.
|
Okay, that's fair analysis, Nik. There's some truth to it, of course. I hope I'm not making some of the crew (or just you) pull out their hair, truly, although, it's hard to imagine as I'm just one guy. It'd be quite an accomplishment, though.
I just like to say, in closing, that, and maybe this wasn't clear, but I actually think most of the Cove protraits fit rather nicely with the original portraits, higher quality, yes, but they still fit together quite well with the originals. I was pointing out that some ('some' doesn't mean '16', btw!) of them look more photo realistic than the others, which in turn has more of the painting-by-brush look (they all do to a degree, of course). I'm not arguing here, it's just a little bit of clarification on my part. I think that's fair to allow me.
About the diversity of the lineup, that's also fair. There's nothing wrong with the Cove consisting mostly of humans. I'd like it otherwise, of course, but I can respect that vision of the Cove, too.
Btw, Beatrice is my favorite HotA portrait. Did Morn draw make her, or did somebody else?
|
|
nik312
Promising
Famous Hero
|
|
posted June 05, 2014 10:58 PM |
|
|
hippox89 said:
Btw, Beatrice is my favorite HotA portrait. Did Morn draw make her, or did somebody else?
It was Docent actually
|
|
hippox89
Famous Hero
|
|
posted June 06, 2014 10:39 AM |
|
Edited by hippox89 at 12:07, 06 Jun 2014.
|
|
I see. The style and execution is very faithful and fitting to HMM3. Some of the best portraits, not just technically, have a life of their own when you look at them. This is true for a lot of the original portraits, and I think think Docent really achieved this with Beatrice, too.
|
|
nik312
Promising
Famous Hero
|
|
posted June 12, 2014 09:26 AM |
|
Edited by nik312 at 09:28, 12 Jun 2014.
|
Some news update from russian vk group
In version 1.3.3 we are fixing that graphical inconsistency, when undergroud lava has the same in-battle look as the one on surface. It is fixed only for lava, as it is the only terrain, that can be generated underground by RMG. Here is its look:
And all its creepy obstacles:
But damned land of Kreegans is not the only terrain, that got an upgrade. Holy Plains got a reworked look as well. The old background looked poorly, like as it had 32 colors at maximum, not the whole range of 256. And those tombstones (obstacles) were horribly stretched and had no shades at all, being one of the biggest NWC graphical slapdashes. Those we had to recreate from scratch
Here is the whole magical change:
|
|
Storm-Giant
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
On the Other Side!
|
|
posted June 12, 2014 01:46 PM |
|
|
ooooooh, nice! Lava battlefield is sexy
Quote:
1.3.3 update is not far from release
Sweet, I haven't played this since my Laptop died 2 months ago, looking forward for more HotA sesions soon 
____________
|
|
Pellish
Famous Hero
|
|
posted June 12, 2014 03:24 PM |
|
|
|
Will 1.3.3 contain new maps? Looking forward to ist release nonetheless.
|
|
gatecrasher
Famous Hero
|
|
posted June 12, 2014 04:34 PM |
|
|
Super rad as always!
However, looking at the tree and the lower gravestone thing, the shade of the cross is inconsistent
|
|
MattII
Legendary Hero
|
|
posted June 12, 2014 10:53 PM |
|
|
|
Are we getting any more water objects? It occurs to me that things like witch huts, lighthouses, learning stones and obelisks would require limited graphics and minimal if any scripting changes.
|
|
blueskirt
Adventuring Hero
|
|
posted June 13, 2014 04:26 PM |
|
|
|
That's pretty awesome, nik, keep up the good work, I can't wait for the patch.
|
|
Sporzas
Tavern Dweller
|
|
posted June 13, 2014 04:32 PM |
|
|
|
Installed yesterday, works good i liked this version and most thing I liked is rmg with selectable templates During battle vy mistake I used spell remove obstacles and I got error and game crashed .
|
|
|
|
This Super Thread is pages long: 
