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SakeHake
Tavern Dweller
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posted June 16, 2014 02:57 PM |
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nik312
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted June 16, 2014 06:05 PM |
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It is useful to read the introductory post before asking such questions
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kko
Hired Hero
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posted June 17, 2014 03:26 AM |
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Ok, I've dome some searching but couldn't find an answer. Why were models for some existing units changed (pikermans, orcs)? Especially the pikermans have a different style to them and, it may be years of being used to the old ones speaking but, they stick out like a sore thumb.
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Archdruid
Adventuring Hero
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posted June 17, 2014 10:39 AM |
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In my opinion pikeman and halberdier are totally fit in the Castle! The model is far better than the old one. Otherwise, the halberdier is the same as it was the pikeman in Heroes 2
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SakeHake
Tavern Dweller
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posted June 17, 2014 01:12 PM |
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nik312 said: It is useful to read the introductory post before asking such questions
Whups, sorry. Im new to the forum, and yesterday I've read so many post I guess I got confused by all the info. I thought it didn't say anything about WoG.
Btw, credits to the developers. I've played HotA for a few hours now, and it runs really smooth.
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Vylk
Adventuring Hero
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posted June 17, 2014 01:15 PM |
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I've always disliked both units that were changed and loved the fact that they were changed... They were really bugging me and the new ones are perfect...I can't express how glad I am. Let me ask something though (purely a personal point of view), but don't you guys think the Phoenix deserves some better visuals? It's supposed to be a glorious, elegant and magical animal...and the one in H3 is...well, fat somewhat comical...at least I find it that way. Does someone share my point of view on this? Has HOTA team ever thought of changing the phoenix visuals or are they happy with it just the way it is?
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted June 17, 2014 05:15 PM |
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kko said: it may be years of being used to the old ones speaking but, they stick out like a sore thumb.
15 years playing the game and I couldn't disagree more !
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MattII
Legendary Hero
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posted June 18, 2014 08:59 AM |
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Vylk said: I've always disliked both units that were changed and loved the fact that they were changed... They were really bugging me and the new ones are perfect...I can't express how glad I am. Let me ask something though (purely a personal point of view), but don't you guys think the Phoenix deserves some better visuals? It's supposed to be a glorious, elegant and magical animal...and the one in H3 is...well, fat somewhat comical...at least I find it that way. Does someone share my point of view on this?
The point is, there's no set appearance, many of the classical philosophers described it as an eagle, which the H3 version looks like, though perhaps a bit plump. Other appearances include roosters, storks and peacocks. Even the colours aren't certain, some use fiery colours, but others use blue and purple (purple being a very expensive colour for a long time).
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Vylk
Adventuring Hero
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posted June 18, 2014 09:32 AM |
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That's just it, it's a "bit" plum...there is absolutely nothing graceful in this particular phoenix. In Heroes 1 and even 2 I found it as the most beautiful monster. Now, one can argue that all bird monsters in H3 are kinda fat (not counting the HOTA Ocean Spirits...which are perfect)...the roc/thunder bird also could lose a couple of pounds, but it's a lot more acceptable somehow...because the roc is a rough muscular bird and this out a side, it looks a lot better in general (NOTE: in my opinion)...but the phoenix ... espcially upgraded it's comical. This being said, I don't really care what bird it is as long as it does this magnificent beast justice...(maybe I have a phoenix fetish or something and the rest of you don't care...but I just though I'd mention it)
Here's some ref former phoenixes:
http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/square_small/1/17172/1373018-homm1_001.jpg
http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130217201025/mightandmagic/en/images/c/c6/Heroes_II_Phoenix.png
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fred79
Disgraceful
Undefeatable Hero
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posted June 18, 2014 09:42 AM |
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lol, first it was that other dude with too many females in the game.
now it's fat ol' biddys. when will it all end?
jk, i agree. i never liked the harpy's, myself. they should be the most disgusting creatures in the game, in my opinion. they should have saggy boobs covered with feathers, and a drooping appearance all over. something akin to a cross between the ugliest bird you've ever seen, and that old woman in the bathtub from "the shining". something that makes you want to puke when you see it, in other words.
i'd like to change the graphics on a bunch of the original creatures drastically(the HoMM3 hydra reverting back to an improved HoMM2 hydra, among many others); but i don't have the knowhow yet, when it comes to generating creatures using 3d programs.
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Vylk
Adventuring Hero
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posted June 18, 2014 09:55 AM |
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So someone didn't like all the females in the game...I don't like the birds...and you don't like the birds that are also female .
Just kidding of course. My question really was (albeit it a bit side-tracked) do HoTA guys contemplate changing any other monster's look. And yeah...what's up with that fat phoenix for crying out loud .
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ArchDruid
Adventuring Hero
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posted June 18, 2014 10:11 AM |
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IMO phoenix is not fat. It has the same model as the Firebird. And firebirds are look great! The only difference between them are the flames that cover the phoenix. Because of flames looks it 'fatter'. And it has bigger beak!
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted June 18, 2014 10:32 AM |
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I have no idea about HotA's crew priorities but I agree that Phoenix could look better On the other hand I'd rather see it as a powerful neutral and would be thrilled to see the Conflux town replaced by Heavenly Forge :-P
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Vylk
Adventuring Hero
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posted June 18, 2014 10:35 AM |
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Why not both? I agree conflux has it's flaws but taking an entire race will be wrong. Maybe fix confux... but eliminate it all thoghether? I don't know...
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whitebeard
Adventuring Hero
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posted June 18, 2014 11:06 AM |
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Vylk said: Why not both? I agree conflux has it's flaws but taking an entire race will be wrong. Maybe fix confux... but eliminate it all thoghether? I don't know...
One thing is clear. Fix those god awful Magic/Psychic Elementals or Sock Monsters as they are more commonly called. Hands down the worst looking creature in the entire game.
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Storm-Giant
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
On the Other Side!
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posted June 18, 2014 11:23 AM |
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I'd rather see a new faction before seeing any other original creature changed...
...and patch 1.3.3, of course
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Steyn
Supreme Hero
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posted June 18, 2014 11:32 AM |
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whitebeard said: One thing is clear. Fix those god awful Magic/Psychic Elementals or Sock Monsters as they are more commonly called. Hands down the worst looking creature in the entire game.
Noooo!!! The magic Elementals look awesome!
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted June 18, 2014 11:45 AM |
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Edited by Galaad at 11:45, 18 Jun 2014.
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Are we off topic here ?
Original Conflux town is an elemental town that was made in a probably hard rush because of all that happened around Forge at that time ?
Taking 4 already existing neutrals probably feels like a time saver ?
Also, there has never been so much pro-forge activity than the last few years ?
So why not both you ask Vylk, I'm okay with both, but then I'd rather see Conflux's feel closer to a Sanctuary town in MMH6..
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Vylk
Adventuring Hero
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posted June 18, 2014 11:49 AM |
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Well, many people would see conflux changed upside down...sure, but I think people would rather see new stuff + a polished conflux...at the end of the day that's really what conflux needs...fixing - so it's up to par with the rest...polish, the polish it never got. And seeing as how HoTA guys are bettering the things NWC didn't have time for or some other reason, I don't think I'm too off topic. Forgive me if I am.
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted June 18, 2014 11:59 AM |
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IMO biggest problem about Conflux is that its concept was made too fast.
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