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RMZ1989
RMZ1989


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posted April 11, 2014 01:23 AM

I bought only two HoN super packs, and got new Haven hero already.
Since I didn't play for a long time, I only have ~115k Gold, so I will save it for HoN when they change the cost from Seals to Gold.

Finished all 5 Puzzles, damn they were fun, I love what they did with the game, really like it!
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posted April 11, 2014 07:03 AM

burn your extra(5+) cards, I got 500k from infernal pit last week
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DoubleDeck
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posted April 11, 2014 07:53 AM

RMZ1989 said:
Finished all 5 Puzzles, damn they were fun, I love what they did with the game, really like it!

I can't finish the last two puzzles (Hakeem's and Fleshbane's).
How do you complete them?

I am thinking that Hakeem's puzzle needs to involve your Dervish Master (for extra attack) and putting all the spells on this creature to multiply your attack stat.....but always end up with enemy hero with 1 health!


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posted April 11, 2014 09:04 AM

RMZ1989 said:
I bought only two HoN super packs, and got new Haven hero already.
Since I didn't play for a long time, I only have ~115k Gold, so I will save it for HoN when they change the cost from Seals to Gold.

Finished all 5 Puzzles, damn they were fun, I love what they did with the game, really like it!


well done RMZ, the puzzles were flippin hard at the end

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RMZ1989
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posted April 11, 2014 09:29 AM
Edited by RMZ1989 at 09:32, 11 Apr 2014.

DoubleDeck said:
RMZ1989 said:
Finished all 5 Puzzles, damn they were fun, I love what they did with the game, really like it!

I can't finish the last two puzzles (Hakeem's and Fleshbane's).
How do you complete them?

I am thinking that Hakeem's puzzle needs to involve your Dervish Master (for extra attack) and putting all the spells on this creature to multiply your attack stat.....but always end up with enemy hero with 1 health!




Yeah, we all figured out how to leave him at 1 HP, but in the end it isn't that hard, it is just that there is a game mechanic that you don't know how it works, but if you know it is very easy.

And Fleshbane is actually easier than Hakeem. At least I've finished Fleshbane in like 20 minutes, while I need ages for Hakeem(like 1 hour or even more) and in the end I finished Hakeem in 10 seconds when I realize that something is working the way it does.

If you need spoilers, I will tell you, but is there a way on these forums to use hidden text/spoilers?

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Elvin
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posted April 11, 2014 09:45 AM

Afraid not, you'd have to send a personal message. I am at Ignatius atm, it is harder than it looks at first glance. Damn I love these puzles!
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RMZ1989
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posted April 11, 2014 10:08 AM

That sucks, wish I can just type it here in the thread under the spoiler tag than to send personal message to everybody that is asking.
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Dave_Jame
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posted April 11, 2014 10:21 AM
Edited by Dave_Jame at 10:32, 11 Apr 2014.

This should be a longer post stating my opinion on the expansion sofar...

First I will try to comment on my predictions from sometime back, which showed out to be horribly wrong.
When testig BS2 deck, I predicted that Necropolis would dominate, Sanctuary and Academy would be competitive, Haven somehow OK-ish and that Inferno was going to bedraged in the mud. I restricted from judging Stronghold for lack of Experience.
What are my impressions sofar? Necropolis is truly one of the best factions, but here is where my accuricy end. Haven is better then just OK-ihs, Inferno is one of the top factions, Sanctuary, for now, has only one reliable concept, and Academy... where is Academy anyway. Again Stronghold will not be judged for now.
This only shows how few card for each faction can change things. I personally calculated, that many factons, like necropolis, will not have such a high number of creatues with AT over 3. This assumption was negated just by one event card... Well we are not perfect are we.

Now let us look at the factions, what do I see in them.
Necropolis: The faction that brings out the esence of tribal theme. Vampires with Sveltana are really interesting and somewhat neverending. Other themes Like spell dominance are good aswell with a huge range of weak small creatures, specialized creatures and Meat bags, they are a force to look out for.
Haven: Many themes to discovver here, Crusaders+Healing, Structures+Retaliation, Standard Spell controle theme. A faction with many good ideas that may work, IDK if will (Did anybody tried a combination of Arkath's wrath and Angel of Redemption?)
Academy: Eh.. what to think here. The new focuse on large creatures is interesting, but with the high number of removal spell dark magic has, this concept is not really usefull in my eyes. Magic contorle as I planed is not that usable, Mill's got work, and Synergi/Tribal decks are not tested yet.
Stronghold: Did not have the time to look into this faction yet. I fear that the focuse on creatures and lack of fortune cards will make it somewhat monotonous.
Inferno: Oh mighty Urgash what did you do. How could a faction, I belived to be doomed be dooming most others. The new creatures are more then strong in what they focuse on, with great discard, rush potential, late game dominance and access to the current standards only board whipes, Inferno will be on the top ranks for some time now.
Sanctuary: This makes me sad. Old focuse on a balanced deck is not that effective now, so what is left. Most people try, and have success, with Honor based decks with fortune support. Balanced decks lack a bit more power under the hood. But one thing I'm looking forwward to are Board control decks, The new rare and epic creatures make this theme more accesable, With the right hero this may be a fun strategy, but how efficient?

In general I see some sort of a Fail designe. The games take longer, but rush strategies are still one of the best out there. Especialy with such cards as "Week of the Eldar races". Only faction I see really effectivly geting into late gameplay is Necropolis, but many have this potential.

Finaly I would like to talk about the new heroes. They have not seen many spotlight yet but some of them are keepers.

First of all Sveltana and Deleb are the top cards here. Sveltana makes Adar malik look like an amature, and Deleb really looks like she enyojs the pain you feel. Charity is Great ofcorse aswell, but I have not seen her played yet. (Something to do with her Theme not beeing explored yet.
In the Male  department things look a bit different. Matewa is interesting, but needs testing, Kanage could be a really strong Beefeater when used well. And finally Masfar, this guy looks kind of sad. In the time, his abilitie is usefull, he usually has already lost the game.

Some other topics.
Who Else got a BS2 starter with the path, I got a Naga deck, IDK why Naga, and what for.
Managed to get to CHampion 2 yesturday, IDK how again, or what it means for me.
Puzzels are fun but pleas don't spoil them here, some people might dislike it, there is always the option to use a PM.
And finally, Tournament anybody?
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RMZ1989
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posted April 11, 2014 10:50 AM
Edited by RMZ1989 at 10:53, 11 Apr 2014.

@DoubleDeck
I've PMed you how I've finished the Puzzles.

@DavieJames
I love Deleb, she is sick. I was a bit sad that they have excluded Xorm from Standard, but now I can see why. Imo she is much better Xorm(Look-wise too ) and L4m4b0n1k and CuCu99 already made some really fun, rushy, top decks with her.

About Sveltana, She is damn strong for sure, but I wouldn't say that she much stronger than Adar. First of all, I wouldn't trade Adar's Fire School for Air School. Air is kind of Dark School, with many single target removals, and with Dark School, Decay Spitters and Banshees, Adar has more than enough single target removal. He needs AoE, something that Air isn't providing. Forbidden Flame is a must in any deck that can play it.
Her ability is arguably better because you will always reanimate Vampires on the field, but on the other hand, she can't reanimate Banshees, Decay Spitters and Paos, something that is used by Adar a lot in the late game when Mana isn't a problem anymore.
Starting stats, I think they favor her a little bit, but she won't be able to play Tutors, since all of them are now 2 Destiny. She is starting with 0 and she won't have time to pump that stat to 2 if spell she needs some unique spell.

PS. Thrall of Hatred is great, Lava Spawns are new Dark Assassins that can't even be killed with Firebolts or anything else. Who cares that I can't use my hero ability when with 1 gold pile I can have 2 Lava Spawns at turn 1, or 3 Lava Spawns if I start second. And I still think that Boneyard is a little bit OP.
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posted April 11, 2014 01:32 PM
Edited by DoubleDeck at 13:35, 11 Apr 2014.

@RMZ: It's cool, the puzzles are on the Ubiforums.

I must say I am loving Inferno. They really work best with "Week of the elder races" (creature type +1 attack) as all of their creatures are of the same type "Demon"...duh!

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NamelessOrder
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posted April 11, 2014 09:50 PM

Uncommons from HoN are mispriced - you can sell uncommon from HoN for 2k gold (300 normally). I know that gold is not worth much now but it's a nice deal.
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Dave_Jame
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posted April 12, 2014 09:33 AM
Edited by Dave_Jame at 09:33, 12 Apr 2014.

I actually think gold will be worth more with the time
But thanks for the tip

BTW played, and won, my first "Standard" Swiss, Two things I have to say:
1: Games now take too long, especially with point 2 taken into considerece
2: The game Look like a freaking Twighlit fanfiction right now.. :-D. 4/8 necros, faced 2 other then me.. we all were playing Sveltana vampires (gues I had the better hand/construction and knew how to play fast(Very important in this deck))

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Hermes
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posted April 12, 2014 09:52 AM

Hm.. I like the changes, started to play again and splashed some cash on one box. Got Sveltana and Sanctuary hero but had to buy Father of Titans as I normally play academy. Sveltana is fun and very strong deck! With Father of Titans though, I try to build a deck that has a few very high req titans in there for the end game and most of the creatures are low req beastmen, so that I can draw a lot in the beginning.

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RMZ1989
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posted April 12, 2014 12:17 PM

Yesterday was playing my first swiss with 4/4/4 Seria and I've won it. First game against Dhamiria, second game against Ariana which was quite long even though I was left on ~16 HP when he was dead, and third game against new Academy hero.

Funny thing, like 5 or 6 factions out of 8 were Necros, and I played only against one. I dislike Necro vs. Necro match-up.
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Elvin
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posted April 12, 2014 02:08 PM

So, how do you get seals other than daily rewards? I am wondering if I should buy some packs with seals or wait 2-3 weeks. If there is no reliable way to get seals in the future I might as well spend them.
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RMZ1989
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posted April 12, 2014 02:21 PM

Elvin said:
So, how do you get seals other than daily rewards? I am wondering if I should buy some packs with seals or wait 2-3 weeks. If there is no reliable way to get seals in the future I might as well spend them.

Only for real money... so you should spend them.

As far as I know, few weeks after the expansion comes out, everything that is for seals should also become available for gold.

At least that is what they have said.
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yasmiel
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posted April 12, 2014 05:53 PM

Elvin said:
So, how do you get seals other than daily rewards? I am wondering if I should buy some packs with seals or wait 2-3 weeks. If there is no reliable way to get seals in the future I might as well spend them.


You wont get them from daily rewards either, once you start fresh log-in chain after the expansion, reward is 1-5 wildcards on day 7 instead.

I had 3k seals, decided to buy 1 HoN box, and save other 1500 for when the next expansion comes out.
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Elvin
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posted April 12, 2014 06:39 PM

So much for that. No matter, I'll wait.

I was in favour of base set 2 coming with heart of nightmares but I did not have many seals and I feel my decks are going to be a little weak with base set 2 cards alone.
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yasmiel
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posted April 12, 2014 07:06 PM
Edited by yasmiel at 19:14, 12 Apr 2014.

I'd say its pretty safe road to Hon card farming to just play swiss tournaments (today its open format swiss). Rewards are slightly beefed up as well. It might make the absence of easy to get seals more bearable. You can also use your accumulated wild cards to cherry pick HoN cards you need.

@sanctuary deck question - it is a promotion thingie, i think anyone that logs in first 2 weeks of base set 2 release gets free sanctuary Base Set 2 deck.
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Elvin
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posted April 12, 2014 07:26 PM

Ah, swiss.. I had all but forgotten, will give it a shot.
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