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Heroes Community > Library of Enlightenment > Thread: an idea about maps
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MalekithPL
MalekithPL


Hired Hero
posted February 21, 2014 11:09 PM

Not sure how you found lizards in tavern, I blocked all heroes with them. The trick is to retreat on neutral monster so you get Wystan with 1 lizard in tavern - then that one lizard and nothing else can join those legions on map due to having Sympathy at 2.

The point of this map was to show that it is possible to join large armies with just a single unit.

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Herry
Herry


Bad-mannered
Famous Hero
100% Devil
posted February 22, 2014 03:25 PM

The point of this map was to show that it is possible to join large armies with just a single unit. sure maybe would happen cause having a creature from the same type of neutrals increases the chance for them to join by 10% or so i heard. i have an old HOMM3 tactics txt file from 1999 which shows a bit about it. when having expert diplomacy and a unit from the same type as the neutrals, guess the chance, 30%? wrong, it's 40%. while having a stronger army with a unit from the same type of these neutrals(upgraded or not) increases chance by 20%, 10% for stronger army and the other for the unit you have. which means: 50% chance.
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MalekithPL
MalekithPL


Hired Hero
posted February 22, 2014 06:58 PM

You are completely wrong. Read Diplomacy thread.

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Herry
Herry


Bad-mannered
Famous Hero
100% Devil
posted February 22, 2014 07:06 PM

maybe i forgot it, been long since i read it
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bloodsucker
bloodsucker


Legendary Hero
posted February 22, 2014 10:42 PM

MalekithPL said:
Not sure how you found lizards in tavern, I blocked all heroes with them. The trick is to retreat on neutral monster so you get Wystan with 1 lizard in tavern - then that one lizard and nothing else can join those legions on map due to having Sympathy at 2.

The point of this map was to show that it is possible to join large armies with just a single unit.


Now I'm confused too. I remember that lots of those small groups of neutrals that were first hostile joined me for money and I kicked the a$$ of the evil eyes with those troops has fooder. At a certain point I had 17 hydras but I believe that even with the Angelic Alliance, I never got power superior to 4000 lizardwarriors...

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MalekithPL
MalekithPL


Hired Hero
posted February 22, 2014 11:00 PM

Yes, but with 17 hydras and high A/D you can increase Strength Factor from -3 to -2, what makes joining lizards possible.

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bloodsucker
bloodsucker


Legendary Hero
posted February 23, 2014 02:00 AM

MalekithPL said:
Yes, but with 17 hydras and high A/D you can increase Strength Factor from -3 to -2, what makes joining lizards possible.


I tried the way you said. It's possible to finnish in less then 10 days.
Day 3 I already had more then 28.000 lizards, after that every thing is a peace of cake. I undestand now why so many players want to play only with savage monsters.
If you have a witch hut with diplomacy near one of your towns and there is a week of a creature you have easy access you can easly assemble an  unbeatable army.

It's almost (almost) as good as to have Vidonima with the Cloack. My, (so often realized) dream.

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MalekithPL
MalekithPL


Hired Hero
posted February 23, 2014 08:29 AM

Cloak of the Undead King is drastically better than diplomacy and pretty much everything in the game. You can convert all neutral stacks into liches with absurd efficiency using high level necromancy specialist. The only instance when Cloak can lose vs diplomacy is playing a dragon template (Clash of Dragons, Frozen Dragons) - then hundreds of dragons of each type could stand a chance. It's very unlikely that necro player would allow that though.

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bloodsucker
bloodsucker


Legendary Hero
posted February 23, 2014 10:19 AM

MalekithPL said:
Cloak of the Undead King is drastically better than diplomacy and pretty much everything in the game. You can convert all neutral stacks into liches with absurd efficiency using high level necromancy specialist. The only instance when Cloak can lose vs diplomacy is playing a dragon template (Clash of Dragons, Frozen Dragons) - then hundreds of dragons of each type could stand a chance. It's very unlikely that necro player would allow that though.


Never eard about those templates. u know where to find them? must be interesting for xxl. Thousands of dragons, orb of vulnerability and berseker...

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MalekithPL
MalekithPL


Hired Hero
posted February 23, 2014 05:23 PM

[url=http://legendyheroes.uzza.pl/download-templates-language-en.html]Templates download page[/url]
They are 1v1 multiplayer templates though. To make them work with XXL patch, open rmg.txt file with program like Excel and change value in "Maximum size" to 98.

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bloodsucker
bloodsucker


Legendary Hero
posted February 24, 2014 10:01 AM

MalekithPL said:
Templates download page
They are 1v1 multiplayer templates though. To make them work with XXL patch, open rmg.txt file with program like Excel and change value in "Maximum size" to 98.


Thank you.
Is your version of Jebus Dragons a 1x1 also? I found the link a few minutes ago.

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MalekithPL
MalekithPL


Hired Hero
posted February 24, 2014 07:05 PM

Can be played 1v1, but there will be many hard to reach zones (former starting areas for computers) taking map space. If you wanna play 1v1 dragon template, Clash of Dragons is best bet. IMO Frozen Dragons is way too closed to make it attractive - interaction with opponent is practically impossible until week 4 or 5, while on CoD action starts around week 3. That's assuming you play versus relatively good opponent, since CoD is a rather hard template (good dwellings are a lot rarer compared to Jebus, while fights are harder).

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bloodsucker
bloodsucker


Legendary Hero
posted March 05, 2014 11:27 AM

Can I ask for some indications on how to force the generator to use a specific template?
The only way I can think about is to delete all others from folder but is probably the wrong way.

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Salamandre
Salamandre


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
posted March 05, 2014 12:10 PM

MalekithPL said:
Templates download page
They are 1v1 multiplayer templates though. To make them work with XXL patch, open rmg.txt file with program like Excel and change value in "Maximum size" to 98.


Bloodsucker

Download some/all templates from that link and place them in any folder-for further usage-. When you want to use one of them, put it out of folder, rename it to rmg.txt and place in your data folder (if playing an era mod, will be ThemodIplaynow/Data, if regular Heroes will be Heroes 3/Data).

And as it says, if you want to play XXL maps with, open template in Excel or textedit, change value in "Maximum size" column to 98. Is easy.

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artu
artu


Promising
Undefeatable Hero
My BS sensor is tingling again
posted March 05, 2014 01:07 PM

Most likely he's using the HD mod just like every one else, in that case it's best to put map templates in Heroes 3 or Era 2 Folder/_HD3_Data/Templates. That way they can be chosen from the HD mod's template menu.

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bloodsucker
bloodsucker


Legendary Hero
posted March 05, 2014 04:15 PM

artu said:
It's best to put map templates in Heroes 3 or Era 2 Folder/_HD3_Data/Templates. That way they can be chosen from the HD mod's template menu.


Thank u both.
I wasn't using HD but this works fine.

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Salamandre
Salamandre


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
posted March 05, 2014 04:42 PM

HD sucks with wog/era. Several incompatibilities, I never use it because of that.

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artu
artu


Promising
Undefeatable Hero
My BS sensor is tingling again
posted March 05, 2014 04:50 PM

I use it all the time. It crashes like once in every 2-3 hour, nothing vital. And there is the possibility those crashes would have happened without the HD mod considering the many Era mods I use, anyway.

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daockloake
daockloake

Tavern Dweller
posted March 05, 2014 05:13 PM

Looking for the best map played.

I have searched maps on all the main hit sites without being able to find what i consider the best played.

The map had 7-8 heroes with above and underground levels. Towards the center of the above ground map it was cursed ground with unclaimed towns gaurded by faerie dragons.

There were minimum of 10 dragon utopias and halls of enlightments.

In the center was your second hero trapped by color border guard. The game always took me minimum of 6 ingame months to actually win it was that hard.

If anyone knows of this map please god tell me and i will bow before you.
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bloodsucker
bloodsucker


Legendary Hero
posted March 05, 2014 05:49 PM

Salamandre said:
HD sucks with wog/era. Several incompatibilities, I never use it because of that.


I'm not playing Era at moment.
I'm following your advises and trying to learn to play with vanilla. Yesterday I've finish a random map I didn't even opened, for the first time since I discovered there is a maps editor almost fiftheen years ago.
And now u say that to use "Invite hero" (that I used) is a Major Cheat. And I have to agree, invite six +350 heroes and the resource producer of your main town special resource is cheating.

But I will keep on trying. Maybe in another 15 years...

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