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bloodsucker
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posted March 09, 2014 01:28 AM |
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Recently I played a game on GameRanger. It was a XL + U map, for 4 players.
I started with two towns, one in a closed space in the underground and one above.
There were plenty of resources and available mines, some mystical gardens and the terrain around my upper city was completly full of cripts.
The other guy quit very soon and I didn't remember to colect the information but this a map I would like to play against computer.
It is almost like XLNT sugestion promoted to a real map.
Does someone reconize the template?
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daockloake
Tavern Dweller
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posted March 19, 2014 05:35 PM |
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Was hoping someone would have found this map i was seeking from page 2 post.
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Ghost
Undefeatable Hero
Therefore I am
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posted March 19, 2014 08:30 PM |
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bloodsucker
Legendary Hero
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posted March 20, 2014 03:58 PM |
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Ghost said:
http://www.maps4heroes.com/heroes3/maps.php?keywords=jani+a&type=&size=&difficulty=&sort=2
I don't know why I made few maps but I wanted..
Yes I has other maps I don't think maps send..
Yes you get know about maps what is fun and lesson a map!
Thank u I've downloaded them I took a look.
Is it my impression or "In the land of Nod" after the quest to get the Tome of Air, the only way u have to return is by retreat after attacking the utopia?
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Ghost
Undefeatable Hero
Therefore I am
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posted March 20, 2014 11:33 PM |
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Maybe good question, bloodsucker! Now I can't remember anything I made a map for bro play, because he never use seer's huts. He said done! Ok I think so.. but I will see he play it on some day! Yes good idea, when about 50%+50%
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bloodsucker
Legendary Hero
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posted March 21, 2014 12:04 AM |
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Ghost said:
Maybe good question, bloodsucker! Now I can't remember anything I made a map for bro play, because he never use seer's huts. He said done! Ok I think so.. but I will see he play it on some day! Yes good idea, when about 50%+50%
Is just that it looks like u have to have a save from some days before to deal with this: the seer asks for 40 azures in cursed ground with no way came out, so or u will be carring a really big army or you will have to return. And the only way I see possible to get away from there is to flee from the utopia to the tavern, sacrifing all your army, twice!!!
And those monolith are speared all over the map, so u r not guaranted to end up where u want...
To play your maps would u recommend a person to maintain saves from basicly every day of the game or close?
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Ghost
Undefeatable Hero
Therefore I am
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posted March 21, 2014 12:33 AM |
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Yes bloodsucker! You can ponder more long. Map isn't bad
Yes u are good player but we should give other think Not a way!
Ok I has job so I must go bed - I played rarely
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bloodsucker
Legendary Hero
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posted March 21, 2014 01:01 AM |
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Ghost said:
Yes bloodsucker! You can ponder more long. Map isn't bad
Yes u are good player but we should give other think Not a way!
Ok I has job so I must go bed - I played rarely
Sorry, u misunderstood me. I was asking if those things were made on purpose, to make the map harder or I just had lost something on the way.
I don't think I'm a good player, that's why I asked if u would recommend to keep saves from a lot of different moments of the game.
I generally don't do it and your map made me think it could be a good pratice.
I didn't even found the time to start any of the maps, I'm just reading some stuff while doing other things.
Thank you.
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Herry
Bad-mannered
Famous Hero
100% Devil
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posted April 12, 2014 01:29 PM |
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An idea
well after i've read sal's post that he took interest in ERM and started map making, making mods and stuff, i'll take the same way, except with my own style, the idea poped in my head today, how about i make a medium/large map, and post in my thread where i posted an idea about a new type of maps? it'll teach a fresh beginner a couple of things, but i'm not making it extremely easy, the most dangerous thing when teaching someone isn't giving them wrong info as they will eventually figure it out, but HOLDING BACK is. anyways, i'm not going to do it right away, "think twice before you roll the dice."yeah it's not 100% unoriginal, "think twice" isn't mine, it's common knowledge, i gave it "before you roll the dice" cause the situation of making that map is perfectly rolling a dice, since you don't know:
-weather people will like it or not
-weather it will teach people new things or not
-weather it's suitable for fresh begginners
-weather it will get feedback
-weather it will be rewarded.
actually i don't really care about the last, even if i do, it's not as much as the ones above it, anyways, good day everybody, i'll wait for your responses, if you agree then i should proudly do it.
note: this post was copied from another thread in the wastelands, i'm still the owner and poster through. since i've found no feedback, opinions or thoughts there i'm trying it here, it all depends on your will, if you see this will benefit beginners and could be useful or you are against the ideas then post it, and don't forget to include reasons, cause a reason is the mother of will, will is the father of motivation. anyway, don't forget to think twice before you roll a dice, diving into the unknown is not always a good idea.
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bloodsucker
Legendary Hero
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posted April 13, 2014 01:31 AM |
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Herry said:
since i've found no feedback, opinions or thoughts there i'm trying it here
I find the idea of create your own map the most interresting you ever showed us.
So, some sujestions...
1. Use "SoD Mod" for WoG and make tests has Salamadre explained in "Only great players can make great maps".
2. Choose a big format (L or XL) cause they give more chances to player to develop.
3. I think for a first map it is better to make a one versus all with barrier quests separating areas to avoid computer to break trough. They are IMO the easiest ones to became interesting.
4. Try to create at least one battle where player needs to use a trick to win.
5. Use prisons and quests to give player special advantages, like Dracon.
6. Don't struggle to much with the idea that you should be teaching something, just try to make a good map. The ideas about what to teach and how will appear along the way.
Ex: when I discovered that the Skeleton Transformer turns hydras and dragons in to bone dragons I put a compliant group of hydras in a map and add this message "We eard that you own a spa called 'The Skeleton Transformer' and we want to be slimmed",
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Herry
Bad-mannered
Famous Hero
100% Devil
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posted April 13, 2014 08:17 AM |
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Edited by Herry at 08:42, 13 Apr 2014.
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thanks but i thought it was a bad idea to make your first map as an L or XL, but will try whatever i can, i also have a trick in mind, but so that it won't go extremely easy i won't say it, i will only do if someone gets extremely frustated, and i won't give it to public, not making it extremely easy cause when you get used to easiness, and go try out the armageddon's blade campaign you are as good as a bug trying to survive a well organized attack, also you don't use trick just for battle, cause i have a like, really great idea: the AB artifact guarded by a legion of dragons. tip: you use a combo of two spells to bypass the battles. i also will not ban any spells, it's not like spells were made to be put in a chest and get locked for centuries, lol. again, thanks for your tips, i've apreciated them.
also i'll look for this sod mod, and sorry to ruin your expectations but this map won't contain ERM, save for maybe some pre-made scripts for objects, anyways i'll begin.
wait a minute i can't find the premade scripts, i remember seeing them in the past with download links, i mean the scripts for WOG objects, wtf can't find em.
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bloodsucker
Legendary Hero
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posted April 13, 2014 11:37 PM |
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Herry said:
also i'll look for this sod mod, and sorry to ruin your expectations but this map won't contain ERM, save for maybe some pre-made scripts for objects, anyways i'll begin.
wait a minute i can't find the premade scripts, i remember seeing them in the past with download links, i mean the scripts for WOG objects, wtf can't find em.
The SoD Mod simulates the SoD conditions in a WoG environment, so I wasn't expecting ERM scripts (they are really hard to write, a good Wog map requires a lot more work and knowledge then an SoD to be done). I believe Salamandre made this mod specialy to help develop SoD maps, it allows you to test your own features on the fly. I never used it for that so I'm talking with no prior experience...
I tought you knew that many mod links are down since Elvis left the building. But in fact you will need the mod much later when the map is almost done, it is for testing what is already made so first you have to draw the map.
Hope you have some aesthetic skills, I lack them completly.
You do what you want but Armageddon Blade is not worth a battle against a legion of dragons. Town Portal, Dimension Door, Resurrection, Clone, Slow, Haste, Blind or Berserk maybe depending on what you still have ahead. Or give Armour of the Damned, Orb of Inhibition and Orb of Vulnerabitity. That can also be tricky.
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Herry
Bad-mannered
Famous Hero
100% Devil
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posted April 14, 2014 08:14 AM |
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Edited by Herry at 08:25, 14 Apr 2014.
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blood sucker, my friend, you forgot a point, i made it a legion specially so the battle doesn't happen, the only way to get to the artifact are 2 spells, and 2 isn't the only detail you may want to know, they only work with a specific order.
and also, SoD mod's link dead, wow, just wow! you could just use mediafire, files in mediafire stay as long as they aren't cracks, stop uploading in these 30 day limit sites.
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bloodsucker
Legendary Hero
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posted April 14, 2014 03:37 PM |
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Herry said:
blood sucker, my friend, you forgot a point, i made it a legion specially so the battle doesn't happen.
I can not forget what I do not know. Map is yours, I have no idea what you are planning except for what you publish. But if you put guards in an object you should provide a message saying what player will be facing.
In the case where the battle is made harder then conquer everybody else, this is probably what player will do. That is why there are special vitory/loss conditions.
One way of using this would be: you ally all computer players, gave them strong advantages and set victory to "get Armageddon's Blade or defeat all enemies".
In this case, kill thousands of dragons may became a minor challenge then fight the uber heroes.
Now, this options are Hard to Impossible, so you must be coherent with what you want...
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Herry
Bad-mannered
Famous Hero
100% Devil
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posted April 14, 2014 03:40 PM |
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I didn't put the battle when you try to get the blade, i will surround it with dragons.
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