xerox said:...I guess it's because of the chorus "Don't wanna work, I wanna make money while I sleep" doesn't go well with German work ethic:/
And you have this "fact" from which source?
Just a fact for you (from 2012):
- weekly working hours EU overall: 41,6 hours
- weekly working hours Germany: 41,9 hours
- weekly working hours Sweden: 40,8 (last place: Denmark, 38,8 hours )
Now back to the ESC
What? The statistics you link just confirm my point:/
(I think you misunderstood me and your post confirms the point too...)
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I kind of like the swedish entry. Was a bit surprised to see the work song lose on the final vote, I didn't particularly like that song, but it was pretty original and once you heard it a couple of times, it really got stuck in your head. But I do think Undo is a pretty good song, even if she does seem to have problems hitting the notes, which is not good. I kind of liked the emo/transgender-looking guy with some sort of japanese name who was also in the final, but he didn't do well.
The danish competition was really weak. I do think the winner was probably the best choice, although there were a couple of other ok-ish songs, but none of them really stood out, and neither made it to the final round (song 4 and 5). I do agree it's shamelessly inspired by Bruno Mars, but at least it doesn't strike me as actually plagiarizing other tracks, unlike the song with the sax that ended as runner up, which was a blatant copy of the song stereo love, which was a hit a couple of years ago. I do think Cliché Love Song is pretty catchy, however, so while it's not original, I don't think it's the worst entry we've had.
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This Creature should have won for Denmark imo. Such an inspired asperger's beast jamming along on their clearly self-made choreography <3 I'm a fan (that Rebekka girl was p. good too, actually.)
anyway now it's time to fastforward through the BOREO SECTION of this year
34. AZERBAIJAN
Dilara Kazimova - "Start A Fire"
semi 1
This is so boring. I am sick of Azerbaijan sending in these boring, Swedish-composed ballads instead of focusing on their own culture. I am sick of them sending in jury bait every year. I am sick of their constant passive-aggressively forced megalomania. I am sick of them clogging up a spot in the top 10 every year, even when they don't deserve it. In other words, I'm sick of THEM.
This is also one of 7 ballads in the first semi. ENOUGH.
33. MONTENEGRO
Sergej Cetovic - "Moj Svijet"
Semi 1
Congratulations! You have a chorus. You are therefor automatically better than Azerbaijan. Good Job Times Zero.
32. RUSSIA
Tolmachevy Sisters - "Shine"
Semi 1
So, Russia. While they were busy arranging an Anschluss with Crimea, they completely neglected their important duty of selecting a Eurovision entry before the time limit :-/ Reassess your priorities, please.
Anyway, after a long wait we got this... mediocrity of an entry. I believe this is the fourthentry in five years called "Shine"? God this is so average, there's just nothing to say about this entry. Semi 1 = the worst.
Okay, wait here are some of the lyrics:
Living on the edge
closer to the crime
cross the line a step at a time
WAY TO BE SUBTLE, RUSSIA.
Can you be a masterpiece of love
Sending out a message out above
Telling all the world to show some love
and this is just RICH coming from Russia. (also... rhyming "love" with "love" ::cringes:: )
This is disappointing coming from Greece. It's so generic and boring. Greece ALWAYS sents party songs, but this one just doesn't invite me to do anything. It's boring and clichématic. It just... leaves me cold. Too bad, because Greece IS one of the better countries in eurovision and they can do better than this. Oh well, there's still 30 ok-at-the-very-least entries to look forward too
30. GEORGIA
The Shin & Mariko - "Three Minutes to Earth"
Semi 2
SHOW US THE STAIRWAY TO GET BACK TO EARTH. SKYDIVERS. SPACE JUMPS.
this entry renders me speechless... and I'm not sure it's in a good way. HOW do you even rank this, honestly? This is a musical acid trip and I don't know if that makes it terrible or genius. So, I sort of rank it in the middle.
People consider this the worst entry ever, but I think this is too harsh of an assessment. Three Minutes To Earth has several... good elements to it. The problem is that this is the most incohesive song i've ever heard. NONE of it comes together like it's supposed to be. It's like someone put it in a blender and forgot to fix it.
Chances
Azerbaijan qualifies for sure because they're desperate scrump hoes who shamelessly resort to bribery to get their ways. I just hope they fail because that entry is just LAZY and self-absorbed.
Montenegro is doomed, thankfully. Mojt Svjiet has "second boot syndrome" written all over it and I doubt it'll do better than that.
Russia... well I am tempted to say it will do well, but... does anyone like Russia? like WHO even likes Russia anymore? I can't imagine Ukraine (which is in the same semi) being fond enough to engage in political voting (which is literally the only reason to vote for this BORING ass song). Azerbaijan too, btw. Remember when they were publicly exposed as fraudulent lickspittles after they forgot to rig their votes in favour of russia? :-/ Russia has always qualified previously, but their entry is mediocre and they as unpopular as ever... so if they were to ever fail to qualify, it would be NOW.
Greece is considered a guaranteed non-qualifier, but it's in semi 2. Semi 2 is virtually all fodder... and Norway, lol. Even without Cyprus, Greece will still have some diasporiae to rely on. I think they qualify for sure (and bomb in the final... for sure).
lolGeorgia. No chance barring some impressive staging.
None of these songs will do well, even if they make the finals. Except Azerbaijan, of course
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Coincidence? I think not!!!!
the greek entry reminds me of communism and how that's a thing there now
the Georgian entry actually makes me feel a little high lol
edit: Seriously is San Marino's Valentina the same Valentina that they've had every year for the last three years...?
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posted March 20, 2014 10:45 PM
Glamboy P entry was probably the WORST entry ever. Everybody were just completely lost and thought "what the hell just happened"? The stage setting was downright embarassing. ____________
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posted March 21, 2014 03:08 PM
Alc and I never agreeing on anything <3 I wonder how intense our musical divide will be this year =O
29. BELARUS
TEO - "Cheesecake"
semi 2
Okay, "like" may have been a strong word. I don't *really* like Cheesecake. But it has potential to deliver lolz in Copenhagen. Let's look at the positives:
1) Unique music style for this year's contest
2) Hilarious lyrics that are easy to misinterpret
3) if the Belarussian Final is an indicator for anything, we're probably in for some manic, flashy staging, which is always welcome on Eurovision
Unlike what you may think, this song is actually not about food or a metaphor for female genitalia, as I mistakenly thought: it's autobiographical. It's about Teo breaking up with his girlfriend because she affectionately refers to him as his "sweet-smelling cheesecake". Seems like a legit reason to break up for me <3
That being said, that's pretty much all Cheesecake has going for it. I did laugh with it when I first heard it and was elated it "won" Belarus' dreadful NF (the jury blatantly rigging it <3), but... it's kind of a crappy song and the joke got old pretty fast. It's also the first Belarussian entry in god knows how long that wasn't changed after it was selected and... I kind of wish it was, you know? I might have prefered something more fun than a Robin Thicke lite.
There isn't much to say about Macedonia's entry. I think it's fairly nice and Tijana seems pretty fun.
there's nothing wrong with this song, but on the flip side of things, there isn't anything that makes me go "wow", you know? The song is fairly flat and generic. Eventhough Semi 2 is considered the weaker of the two, it's chock-full of memorable, fun entries and unfortunately, Macedonia gets lost in the shuffle for me.
Chances
I would normally say "No Way" about the Belarussian qualification odds, but given that semi 2 is almost entirely fodder and has about 7-8 "obvious non-qualifiers", we are bound to have a few "surprise qualifiers". I wouldn't write off TEO's odds.
Because it's rather unmemorable and just ok, Macedonia will probably fail to qualify.
28. Macedonia
29. Belarus
30. Georgia
31. Greece
32. Russia
33. Montenegro
34. Azerbaijan
35. Denmark
36. Sweden
37. Belgium
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Coincidence? I think not!!!!
So far Lexxan you have managed to prove why the British take absolutely no notice of Eurovision. Most of the time, despite advertising, they are normally unaware its on/finished/over.
They won't even know the British entry. I gather there is one ???
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posted March 22, 2014 05:16 PM
I don't think I've validated anything, Meroe. The Great British Public is notoriously fun-hating and sexist (Hence why they ALWAYS hate the most entertaining women in Big Brother or The Apprentice) and I most of the time end up not agreeing with them anyway.
I am however, PERPLEXED by how indifferent the UK are towards their own entry. Just because Molly was unknown in the UK before her selection, doesn't mean she's automatically worthless. Blue, Bonnie and Engelbert all sucked live where as Molly is a proven capable singer. I personally cannot think of a scenario where the UK doesn't finish at least in the top 5 in Copenhagen. Again, the UK's indifference is mostly due to THEM having awful opinions/being inherently sexist than the quality of their entry (lest we forget: they LOVED Scootch O__O)
Anyway:
27. Malta
Firelight - "Coming Home"
semi 2
Malta is a fairly "meh" country in Eurovision, but I'm regardless glad they've stuck to the genre they excell at: quirky, lowkey fun songs. That's exactly what this entry is: it is so warm and welcoming.
However, the main problem with Malta is 1) I'm not that excited by it because i prefer things that are more uptempo 2) Semi 2 is FILLED with OTT, ridiculous songs that i'm simply more interested in and Malta is sadly somewhat lost in the shuffle for me. We'll see what they'll bring in Copenhagen though. If they can convey their song's warmth well on stage, I'm going to be a fan!
26. Poland
Donatan & Cleo - "My Słowianie"
semi 2
If the first thing you thought of was Forums User Doomforge when you first heard this entry, we might be soul siblings
I mean... this entry, lol. I have to say that i am not very fond of the song itself. It's not my style, at all. It's not harmonious or melodic.
What IS good about My Słowianie however is pretty much everything else: The lyrics are just... brilliant and hilarious. "SHAKE WHAT YOUR MOMMA GAVE YA *twerks*". That videoclip is gratuitous and scrump <3
I think that, ultimately, EVERYTHING will depend on how this is staged. My Słowianie is an entry that just CANNOT be rated properly without knowing what it's going to look like on stage. I cannot imagine this NOT being funny in one way or the other... but there's a different between hilarious and fun... and downright tacky. This song could end up being a dud, and i feel like it would be a damn' shame if it did.
My Słowianie has all the building blocks to become a hilarous entry. All that's left for it to do, is to work on making it happen.
Chances
With that genre and that song, I think Malta is one of the few guaranteed qualifiers from semi 2. Hard to say how well they would do in the finale however, since this year is all over the place in terms of winning odds.
Poland's odds depend largely on the staging, act and draw. If they get all of those three things right, they could very well make a surprise qualifier.
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Coincidence? I think not!!!!
I think what it is Lexxan, with the British psyche in regards to Eurovision and their own entries, is that the British public don't think of Eurovision as music. Its seen more as Eurotrash and Europop.
They are just genuinely not interested. Nothing to do with your perceived sexism etc. Just more along the lines of .... meh ???? According to my grandmother, even during the 60's no-one cared.
So you see, British entries into Eurovision are not known to the British public, unless of course you have the old timers trying their luck. Even then, the British don't care.
Plus Eurovision is just too pop for the British. And from what I've seen with your video clips here, I can understand why they think that way.
Oh and btw, British are not fun-hating at all. I have no idea where you got that from, but you couldn't be more wrong. Perhaps you are showing too much of your own 'hate' and bias here.
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blink of an eye - Kipshasz
meroe said:I think what it is Lexxan, with the British psyche in regards to Eurovision and their own entries, is that the British public don't think of Eurovision as music. Its seen more as Eurotrash and Europop.
They are just genuinely not interested. Nothing to do with your perceived sexism etc. Just more along the lines of .... meh ???? According to my grandmother, even during the 60's no-one cared.
So you see, British entries into Eurovision are not known to the British public, unless of course you have the old timers trying their luck. Even then, the British don't care.
Plus Eurovision is just too pop for the British. And from what I've seen with your video clips here, I can understand why they think that way.
Oh and btw, British are not fun-hating at all. I have no idea where you got that from, but you couldn't be more wrong. Perhaps you are showing too much of your own 'hate' and bias here.
That's rich coming from you. Tell it to someone who cares Seraphim.
lmao
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as she sounds sometimes, she'd
definetely castrate you with a
rusted razror and forcefeed
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blink of an eye - Kipshasz
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posted March 22, 2014 11:16 PM
Do I need to have one of the Tavern mods look into, of all things, this Eurovision thread, or can you keep it civil from here?
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Wouldn't it just be fantastic to have a fight in the Eurovision thread.
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definetely castrate you with a
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blink of an eye - Kipshasz
Lexxan
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posted March 24, 2014 01:12 PM
nope ^__^
SEMI RUNNING ORDER IS OUT:
semi 1
1. Armenia
2. Latvia
3. Estonia
4. Sweden
5. Iceland
6. Albania
7. Russia
8. Azerbaijan
9. Ukraine
10. Belgium
11. Moldova
12. San Marino
13. Portugal
14. The Netherlands
15. Montenegro
16. Hungary
semi 2
1. Malta
2. Israel
3. Norway
4. Georgia
5. Poland
6. Austria
7. Lithuania
8. Finland
9. Ireland
10. Belarus
11. F.Y.R. Macedonia
12. Switzerland
13. Greece
14. Slovenia
15. Romania
I actually don't think it'll have much impact except for stuff such as "Arminia will finish second instead of first" or "Montenegro may not be last in semi 1" and honestly, who cares about that. Sweden is possibly the only exception. Sanna is sandwiched between an uptempo dance song and an uptempo gimmicky pop song. If she sings out of tune (like I expect her to), she will flop so hard and be forgotten by everyone ... I hope it happens
25. Portugal Suzy - "Yo Quiero Ser Tua"
semi 1 - slot #13
I really like this song but homegirl needs to improve her singing. Seriously.
People seemed to really hate the portuguese NF, but I really enjoyed it. Old-fashioned mid-noughties pop full with gratuituous synthesized exotic intruments <3 I enjoyed Yo Quero Ser Tue as well. It's tropical and fun ^__^ It's catchy. It is staged VERY well (although Staging is something the Portuguese are generally good at). If it weren't for the mediocre vocals, i'd be more fond of it than I'm right now.
Okay, NOW we get to the songs i'm confident enough to put in green. I wasn't too fond of Heartbeat when it first came out because I mostly default to DISLIKE when it comes down to Ireland in Eurovision. Over time however, it has grown on me.
As a man that loves his schlager, I LOVE folk-inspired pop and I LOVE easy-going, catchy music. Heartbeat effing delivers on both counts. While I consider 23 entries better than this one, I think Heartbeat is fun and one of the FEW "classic eurovision entries" in this year's contest.
The main reason however why this isn't higher is because Can-Linn had these ANNOYING, CAMERA-HOGGING DANCERS during her performance in the Irish National Final. She may rise on my list if she ditches them.
Chances
Portugal is an outsider to qualify, but i think it's foolish to rule them out. Portugal is one of the few countries that benefits from their running order, as it's the only pop song between... Ukraine who performs ninth, and Hungary which closes. If Suzy sings well they can qualify, but only then.
I feel like Ireland is one of the more likely countries to qualify. It has the votes (Lithuania and the UK both vote), it has the catchy rhythm, it has a popular music style. Yeah, this would have be to severely outclassed by everything else in order to not qualify for the finals.
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posted March 24, 2014 05:00 PM
Azery entry is decent for a ballad.
Russia ain't too bad.
Georgia is interesting at least.
Macedonian singer should use more of her low voice, it sounds AMAZING.
Poland, please, please, please stage this so over the top
Ireland sending a decent, even likeable entry? ____________ DON'T BE A NOOB, JOIN A.D.V.E.N.T.U.R.E.
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posted March 24, 2014 05:05 PM
xerox said:
angelito said:
xerox said:...I guess it's because of the chorus "Don't wanna work, I wanna make money while I sleep" doesn't go well with German work ethic:/
And you have this "fact" from which source?
Just a fact for you (from 2012):
- weekly working hours EU overall: 41,6 hours
- weekly working hours Germany: 41,9 hours
- weekly working hours Sweden: 40,8 (last place: Denmark, 38,8 hours )
Now back to the ESC
What? The statistics you link just confirm my point:/
(I think you misunderstood me and your post confirms the point too...)
You're right, my fault
By the way....
I've just heard the german song yesterday
I am pretty sure she will earn about 6 points ALLTOGETHER at most
This is probably the worst song I have heard the last 10 years in the ESC...
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23. Romania Paula Seling & Ovi - "Miracle"
semi 2 - slot #15
Paula and Ovi <3 I'm not sure how popular of an opinion it is, but "Playing With Fire" is MY favourite from 2010. So when this pair was announced to return, I was of course IMMEDIATELY on the love train.
However, while I strongly like this entry, there are a few minor things that hold me back from putting it higher. While the word "Magical" is uttered many times beyond count, I actually think the song... isn't? I don't know, "Miracle" is a good song, but I like my songs to have a certain "UMPH" to them and Miracle doesn't have that, you know?
I am also absolutely convinced this will bomb in the finale and that's the second reason why I'm not allowing myself to grow too attached to it but overall, it's a great entry.
Goddess. I love this entry. This is... the best Lithuanian entry ever, without joking. Yeah, i've shat on Lithuania loads of times for sending in awful boring hipster music, but now they're FINALLY managed to produce a song I like. "I'M GONNA MAKE U MAKE U FALL DOW DOW DOW DOW DOW DOWN ON UR KNEES."
This entry has the act, it has the song, it has the (hilarious) lyrics. The only thing what needs to happen is for Vilija sing in tune and to polish up her entry, because at this stage it's nothing more (and nothing less) than a diamond in the rough.
YOU BETTER BE READY CAUSE YOU'LL NEVER BE READY. 'MEMBA I TOLD YOU -- Alexandra de-Gale -- Lexxan
I mean, Valentina love is, after the maelström of emotions that was Crisalide, pretty self-explanatory at this stage. So when Maybe revealed itself to be a repackaged version of Crisalide, I was 2excited2buy.
Unfortunately, it's a repackaged version of the FIRST half of Crisalide, which is the half I care about the least :-/ I also like the Italian version (link) much better than the English version. Finally, as with Romania, I am really pessimistic about Valentina's chances after narrowly missing the semi's last year and I do not want to become too attached to her again because I do NOT want my high hopes shattered again.
But all these "problems" are only minor. Maybe is much more polished and high quality than Crisalide was, so all there's left for us to hope is that San Marino won't ruin it by staging it cheaply, like they did last year.
Chances
Romania performs last in their semi. This means that they WILL qualify no matter what, as 10 out of 15 songs move on. As for their winning odds. I feel like people overrate them. I feel like Romania will not do as well as people would expect them too. And I fear I'm right
Lithuania is tipped as one of the five non-qualifiers from semi 2, but this just baffles me. While the OBVIOUS allies are in the other semi, Lithuania does still have Soviet Connections to Belarus as well as diasporiae in the UK and Ireland. The song is also ~Artistically Viable~ and therefore guaranteed to get some jury votes, regardless of whether or not Vilija sings it well. While it won't do too well in the Finale, this is a very likely qualifier imo.
San Marino... Eh, look at it this way: there are 6 OBVIOUS qualifiers in semi 1 (Armenia/Russia/Azerbaijan/Ukraine/Estonia/Hungary) and the four remaining slots could go to whoever else is left, except Montenegro and Latvia who don't stand a chance. I WANT San Marino to qualify, I really do... but it's impossible to predict if they will. I would be ELATED if they did though. That being said though: slot #12 is considered a lucky slot since entries in that slot usually qualify for the finals. Let's hope the streak isn't broken this year.
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posted March 20, 2014 08:10 PM
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but overall, it's a great entry.
