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Heroes Community > Other Side of the Monitor > Thread: Saving one from their own self
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veco
veco


Legendary Hero
who am I?
posted April 19, 2014 02:21 PM

Exactly, I firmly believe that my consciousness comes from the general spleen area.

Your move.
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artu
artu


Promising
Undefeatable Hero
My BS sensor is tingling again
posted April 19, 2014 02:27 PM

Well, you got your facts wrong is all there is to say. A very direct causality is observed and there is absolutely nothing to suggest and no reason to conclude some metaphysical force behind our consciousness. Even if that wasn't the case, asking evidence for non-existence of something will result in mysticism as I already mentioned. As long as we have the concept of infinity, theoretically, you can not prove anything doesn't exist, including purple gremlins and ballad singing imps.

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Herry
Herry


Bad-mannered
Famous Hero
100% Devil
posted April 19, 2014 04:01 PM

Corribus said:
If a man wants to kill himself, I'll give him reasons why he shouldn't. If he still wants to kill himself, I'll find him a sharp blade.

I think one of the greatest rights society still fails to acknowledge is a person's right to die at a time of their choosing.  

at a time of their choosing WHEN THEY ARE NOT AT FULL MENTAL HEALTH. so you are wrong there, and thanks for filling my thread with junk, other guys.
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bloodsucker
bloodsucker


Legendary Hero
posted April 19, 2014 10:15 PM

Herry said:
Corribus said:
If a man wants to kill himself, I'll give him reasons why he shouldn't. If he still wants to kill himself, I'll find him a sharp blade.

I think one of the greatest rights society still fails to acknowledge is a person's right to die at a time of their choosing.  

at a time of their choosing WHEN THEY ARE NOT AT FULL MENTAL HEALTH. so you are wrong there, and thanks for filling my thread with junk, other guys.


See the movie I talked about.

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meroe
meroe


Supreme Hero
Basically Smurfette
posted April 19, 2014 10:25 PM
Edited by meroe at 22:26, 19 Apr 2014.

JoonasTo said:
Meroe has a nice romantic view of things it's so pretty in all its naivety.

meroe said:

You just leave a note saying sorry.

You don't leave a note saying sorry btw.


Its called a suicide note Joonas

Lots of people leave them.  As a way of trying to say sorry to loved ones and explain their actions.

But yes I can be naive.  But I am happy that way lol
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JoonasTo
JoonasTo


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What if Elvin was female?
posted April 19, 2014 10:35 PM

No they don't.
A minority do. Most just go.
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meroe
meroe


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Basically Smurfette
posted April 19, 2014 10:44 PM

I never said everyone does.  I don't remember quoting statistics.  Lots of people leave notes.  And for the reasons I stated.  If you have no one, you wouldn't leave a note would you.

But many people who have families, often do.  No point in arguing the toss on it. ??
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JoonasTo
JoonasTo


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What if Elvin was female?
posted April 19, 2014 11:42 PM
Edited by JoonasTo at 23:42, 19 Apr 2014.

They often don't. That's the point. Those leaving a suicide note are an exception to the rule.
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artu
artu


Promising
Undefeatable Hero
My BS sensor is tingling again
posted April 19, 2014 11:49 PM

Is there actually a statistic on that? I guess it can be checked out from police reports and stuff...

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JoonasTo
JoonasTo


Responsible
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What if Elvin was female?
posted April 19, 2014 11:50 PM

Yeah there is, don't ask me to find it though
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fred79
fred79


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Undefeatable Hero
posted April 20, 2014 05:04 PM

Herry said:
and thanks for filling my thread with junk, other guys.


you brought up a subject, people respond. if you don't like what they respond with, don't bring up a subject.

i thought you said you were trying to turn over a new leaf, but it's apparent that you aren't.

if i didn't know any better, i would say you are the very mod that created the "how to spam" thread. seeing as how the mods have let you continously antagonize people, and still you have not received any reprimand of any sort.


all of that said, the people who responded in your thread, apparently know a whole hell of a lot more than you do, about the subject at hand. so you really cannot be in any position to judge.

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Herry
Herry


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100% Devil
posted April 20, 2014 05:25 PM

no, i HAVE a position to judge, this thread is about ways to stop people from suiciding, not reasons and ****.
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Corribus
Corribus

Hero of Order
The Abyss Staring Back at You
posted April 20, 2014 06:06 PM

This thread is about whatever the posters want it to be about. Please stop antagonizing other posters.
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fred79
fred79


Disgraceful
Undefeatable Hero
posted April 20, 2014 06:07 PM
Edited by fred79 at 18:08, 20 Apr 2014.

@ herry:

maybe you should read more? the so-called "junk posts" in this thread tell you explicitly why you cannot talk someone who is truly suicidal, out of it. even if they did drop you clues(which they most likely won't), you wouldn't be able to sway them, once they made up their mind.

for instance, a person who is truly suicidal, will seem happy, because they know that they are going to be dead soon, if they have already planned it. you would never know the difference.

as a soldier, we used to get training on this kind of thing nearly every weekend(along with our drunk-driving avoidance classes). like i'm telling you, you don't know what you're talking about. try reading or experiencing more about the subject, before you decide to call people's responses in your thread "junk posts". you're talking to someone who knows a whole hell of a lot more about the subject, than you do. not only from my own personal experiences, but because i've had friends and family members who have committed suicide.

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Elvin
Elvin


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Endless Revival
posted April 21, 2014 05:32 PM

Herry said:
no, i HAVE a position to judge, this thread is about ways to stop people from suiciding, not reasons and ****.

You should probably decide if you want to promote a discussion or stay alone and talk to yourself. Because you are alienating people as things are and you don't seem happy about it either.
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Lexxan
Lexxan


Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Unimpressed by your logic
posted April 21, 2014 06:03 PM

Corribus said:
This thread is about whatever the posters want it to be about. Please stop antagonizing other posters.


You're just pissed you couldn't comprehend the point he was making.

Face the system, daddy, you got outsmarted by a 13 year old.
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seraphim
seraphim


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Knowledge Reaper
posted April 21, 2014 06:06 PM

People who are suicidal have irrational beliefs. They usually are convinced with their beliefs.

If you want them to give up on suicide then it takes psycotherapy and changing their belifs. Sometimes, theose belifes are reinforced by social situations and hardships. Helping them is to help them with their problems and make them get hope.

Really, OP, if you are not good at it, then you may want to contact a psycologist and ask him/her what to do in this case.

Suicidal people, if they are male are more prone to commit suicide than females. So, if your friend wants to commit suicide, dont be stupid enoough to get help from the internet and get your ass moving.

Even third world countries have psycologists, get help from them.

And btw, walking, jogging, being productive, being in contact and being positive helps against depression.

If you are trolling OP, get hit by a meteorite and nuclear transporter.
Its not a fun subject to make a trolling post.

You know, other than this, suicide, when it is done to escape a burden or relieve a burden is ok with me. Japanese honor suicides are done many times and probably no one from you ever heard of that.

Since when is life precious? Life is only precious if you value it, if you dont than its worthless.

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JoonasTo
JoonasTo


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Undefeatable Hero
What if Elvin was female?
posted April 21, 2014 06:20 PM

Quote:
Life is only precious if you value it, if you dont than its worthless.

This must be the first wise thing I've heard from Seraphim in a long, long while.
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Herry
Herry


Bad-mannered
Famous Hero
100% Devil
posted April 21, 2014 06:27 PM

Lexxan said:
Corribus said:
This thread is about whatever the posters want it to be about. Please stop antagonizing other posters.


You're just pissed you couldn't comprehend the point he was making.

Face the system, daddy, you got outsmarted by a 13 year old.

you overestimated me, sir, i am TEN, not 13 years old.
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seraphim
seraphim


Supreme Hero
Knowledge Reaper
posted April 21, 2014 06:33 PM
Edited by seraphim at 18:35, 21 Apr 2014.

JoonasTo said:
Quote:
Life is only precious if you value it, if you dont than its worthless.

This must be the first wise thing I've heard from Seraphim in a long, long while.


Oh, I am sincerely surprised to read that from you. You know, I dont hear people talking in a forum, I usually read text. Sometimes, I also listen to music while reading text.

Jonas, you shouldn't be hearing people in an online forum.

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