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Orzie
Responsible
Supreme Hero
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posted April 28, 2014 09:08 AM |
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Edited by Orzie at 09:09, 28 Apr 2014.
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It's impossible and not really necessary to remake H2 in HD, and I explained why.
Despite of your and mine personal preferences, H3 is 50 times more popular game, and thus the only one deserving to be remade in terms at least of profits, if other arguments don't convince you. You cannot deny that the anomalic popularity of this game from all the series means something. Players in Russia all over the country just say 'hey, let's play Heroes today' and everyone has a clear idea what they are talking about. It's the third game.
Yes, we love H2, but its time is over, its concepts are too fairy-tale and its gaming mechanics is flawed in its core as H2 has never really considered the aspects of multiplayer and overall balance.
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JollyJoker
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
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posted April 28, 2014 09:28 AM |
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That's all very nice and well, and it's not the question that POTENTIALLY HoMM 3 makes the most sense.
HOWEVER, POTENTIALLY, people will EXPECT the most as well, and any other delivery except PERFECT will raise protests.
BY YOUR OWN LOGIC - HoMM 3 is still played, and a lot so. Does that sound like a HD version would be needed? Answer: only with all/most of the functionalities the playing crowds are actually making use of and are used to: People won't buy HD-HoMM 3, then shelve it, because they can't play their favorite maps and mods with it and be happy with that.
In contrast HoMM 2 - with a couple of minor tweaks might well be something like a new game.
I'm not going to discuss balance - regular HoMM 3 is definitely not balanced for multiplayer, and if you introduce special rules about what to do or not to do, you can balance every game, including HoMM 2.
Discussing this further, isn't going to gain anything at this point. Let's just see what happens, if anything, and should indeed something happen, we'll see about the reaction: HoMM fan crowd has been dissatisfied with M&M publishings since H3AB, and I doubt this will change.
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Maurice
Hero of Order
Part of the furniture
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posted April 28, 2014 11:52 AM |
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JollyJoker said:
However, what would be satisfactory here, that's the question, and as much as I've been playing and liking HoMM 3, a HD remake of RoE only, as in, the original game without any changes, would NOT see me buying it.
Why do you keep hammering so much about this? If they ever do a remake / rework of H3 (in whatsoever form), it's far more logical to do the full game (up to and including AB and SoD) instead of just the vanilla game.
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JollyJoker
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Undefeatable Hero
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posted April 28, 2014 12:29 PM |
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Question: in your assumptions about what would be logical, if and when certain things with regard to the M&M series were to happen - were your assumptions never wrong and have you never been disappointed thus far?
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Storm-Giant
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
On the Other Side!
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posted April 28, 2014 02:40 PM |
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It would make more sense to remake the complete game than just the vanilla release. Even if people always says "Heroes 3", I think all refer to the complete version.
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JollyJoker
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
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posted April 28, 2014 02:53 PM |
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Yes, of course it would. So?
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted April 28, 2014 03:45 PM |
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Edited by Galaad at 15:53, 28 Apr 2014.
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I wouldn't expect too much from the company that delivered H6.
Ubisoft considering an H3 remake already sounds like an unhoped-for blessing so, H2 revival, even if JollyJoker makes a lot of sense, forget it.
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Storm-Giant
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
On the Other Side!
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posted April 28, 2014 06:29 PM |
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Galaad said:
I wouldn't expect too much from the company that delivered H6.
I also don't have a lot of hope from them. I've been very vocal about their mistakes in the past. But they have the rights of the brand and they are the ones producing M&M games. And while it's true they delivered bad products, they also managed to squeeze through a few good games (like DM, CoH or MMX).
Of course, you just shouldn't buy blindly a H3 remake when you first hear of it, but inform about it before buying. Still, this pretty much applies to any game in the industry right now.
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lordriton
Known Hero
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posted April 30, 2014 02:40 AM |
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I don't think Ubisoft only makes bad games. I enjoyed a lot Dark Messiah of might and magic on my xbox 360, despite the only averadge rating it got on most gaming sites.
And a remake is easier to make, because it's just a copy from some existing game which gets some improvements 
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Sorry for my miserable english, i'm french.
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted April 30, 2014 09:22 AM |
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Just to be clear my critic on Ubisoft applies specificaly to H6.
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adriancat
Famous Hero
Protector Of The Peace
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posted May 01, 2014 08:40 PM |
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Signed ! 
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vancho1
Adventuring Hero
Learning
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posted May 04, 2014 11:25 PM |
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I would like to bring to your attention that another game with a living fanbase, Age of Empires II, got an HD re-release. Notice that they didn't re-release AoE, or AoM, but AoK, which is the most popular of the Ensemble Studios Age games.
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lordriton
Known Hero
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posted May 06, 2014 09:38 AM |
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9 more needed !
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Sorry for my miserable english, i'm french.
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zmudziak22
Supreme Hero
Heroes 3 Fan
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posted May 13, 2014 09:30 PM |
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I signed in to this petition. Heroes 3 is best of series. Still VCMI is very good project that rewrite H3 engine to be easy to modify. I'll support this petition.
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lordriton
Known Hero
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posted May 14, 2014 10:15 AM |
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One more needed !
someone !??
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Sorry for my miserable english, i'm french.
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whitebeard
Adventuring Hero
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posted May 14, 2014 11:06 AM |
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No. Run the risk of ruining an absolute classic? Even if they were to remake it, they would just screw it up by tacking on pointless 3D that dilutes and slows down the flow of gameplay. Heroes 3 to me is so magical because the somewhat primitive graphics and single camera perspective forces you to use your imagination to fill in the gaps. For example A small snippet of the landscape in H3 seems much larger than say, a fully 3D section of the Heroes 5 map. If they were to remake it, the game would lose all its magic. Besides Heroes 5 was basically a remake of the third game anyway but all those similarities did was shine a gigantic spotlight on how Heroes 5 failed in every way to reach the same level of quality as the third game. So no. Ubisoft or whoever, try something else.
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted May 14, 2014 12:29 PM |
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whitebeard said:
they would just screw it up b
I like to hope they wouldn't.
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whitebeard
Adventuring Hero
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posted May 14, 2014 01:10 PM |
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Galaad said:
I like to hope they wouldn't.
Me too. But I'd rather just have a new original game done up to the same standard as H3. A remake really doesn't make any sense from a making money perspective. Only fans of the older games would be interested and whilst there's a lot of people who would love to see H3 done up with sweet cutting edge graphics, it wouldn't be nearly enough for them to turn a profit. Modern gamers just wouldn't care. No I think something new to shake up the formula and bring in more people would be a smarter move. I don't know about you guys but the last 3 games in the series just feel really stale to me. Ubisoft should just make a new series with heroes elements and quit banking on peoples nostalgia to push these games.
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Corribus
Hero of Order
The Abyss Staring Back at You
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posted May 14, 2014 03:09 PM |
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@Whitebeard
I don't think anyone is asking for 3D. An HD remake would still be the same 2D game, just capable of running with a modern screen resolution (so it's not all 'blown up' and grainy looking).
The game itself would be exactly the same.
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I'm sick of following my dreams. I'm just going to ask them where they're goin', and hook up with them later. -Mitch Hedberg
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whitebeard
Adventuring Hero
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posted May 14, 2014 04:02 PM |
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Corribus said:
@Whitebeard
I don't think anyone is asking for 3D. An HD remake would still be the same 2D game, just capable of running with a modern screen resolution (so it's not all 'blown up' and grainy looking).
The game itself would be exactly the same.
What you are talking about is a "remaster" the petition is for a "remake" which means there will be differences. Although I wouldn't protest if all they were going to do is increase the image resolution. I just don't want any radical changes to the creature designs to make them look more "cool" or something. I love how quirky and inventive the art design is in Heroes 3, even if it is a little cheesy its all part of the fun. I would hate for it to be replaced by something soulless to make it look grittier or whatever.
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