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Neraus
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posted June 17, 2014 03:44 PM |
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OffT: As far as I remember Cor is averse to excessive quoting, like quoting an entire post and the post is extremely long, making a giant mess...
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Why everytime some topic such as Feminism suddenly becomes a guys vs. girls battle?
Anyway, give me a reason why Chivalry would be misoginy, since when I open the door for certain women they slap me and berate me for being such a woman hater.
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OhforfSake
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posted June 17, 2014 03:44 PM |
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They're very valuable members, but that's more or less in heroes 3 and related sections. Ad I believe is from the new HoMM 5 generation, I'm not sure he even know what Heroes 3 is, I don't think most people in the non-heroes sections, which we're in, know much about heroes 2 or 3.
I was probably unfair towards Stevie. Sorry Stevie, I didn't intend to come off as hostile, you've my apology, though I'm sure we're cool and you don't really need it! 
About quotes, well it's possible to multiquote, but it may make the post clustered.. like this:
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Neraus said:
Anyway, give me a reason why Chivalry would be misoginy, since when I open the door for certain women they slap me and berate me for being such a woman hater.
Because she's apparently a violent person who slaps people because she thinks she can? I mean it's the same about guys, I try to run away with his newborn child and he gives me a beating, I'm all like "what's the matter with that guy?", it's not like he can't get another.
When it comes to holding doors, I find it can be an odd experience. If someone is obviously going that way, it's just common courtesy to hold the door, if someone gets in your face about it, I'd ignore them, because it's none of their business if I hold the door for them or not.
But if someone is moving really slowly towards the door, or they're actually not going that way, I'll look freaking silly standing there holding open a door.. and I've been in that spot before, and it's a bit embarrassing. But getting slapped is just silly and violent and an excessive response.
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Stevie
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posted June 17, 2014 03:49 PM |
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On a thread about equality you're being biased towards a certain member beyond belief, forfy. You're defending the very same person who said "screw you guys", which is hardly any different from a kid throwing a tantrum. He's very arrogant and his approach on subjects like this one is not exactly diplomatic. And you say he deserves to be a mod? Spare me.
OhforfSake said:
I was probably unfair towards Stevie. Sorry Stevie, I didn't intend to come off as hostile, you've my apology, though I'm sure we're cool and you don't really need it!
Sure, we're cool, always. There shouldn't even be a question about it 
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Ebonheart
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posted June 17, 2014 03:50 PM |
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I tried to do my posts like that when I first joined Ohforfsake, but it ended up with 1x post looking like a accordion taking up 1x thread page that I quickly had to edit in shame. 
I don't think Ohforfsake is biased, I just think he does not want to have a member leave/take something personal and quit posting because of someone else.
I will be rude/snide saying this but in my world people on the left tends to attack someone directly or play on sorrow/grief feelings. I must thus agree a little bit with Stevie that letting him become a mod might be to put one's foot in it. But if he can keep his feelings in check and remain polite then I see no reason for him not to be able to.
However he could have spared the spiteful take off, but whatever.
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Neraus
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posted June 17, 2014 03:51 PM |
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That explains it, now that I think of it, I shouldn't have the knife showing while I hold the door, I'm such an idiot. 
But really, that's the kind of feminism I hate, when women feel entitled to slap, kick and emasculate you while you are a man that wouldn't even dare to touch them with a flower...
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Stevie said:
On a thread about equality you're being biased towards a certain member beyond belief, forfy. You're defending the very same person who said "screw you guys", which is hardly any different from a kid throwing a tantrum. He's very arrogant and his approach on subjects like this one is not exactly diplomatic. And you say he deserves to be a mod? Spare me.
Ad is feverish, that's probably the reason why he's so violent today.
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I will be rude/snide saying this but in my world people on the left tends to attack someone directly or play on sorrow/grief feelings. So I do not mind him that much since I've debated vs a lot of folks with the same opinions. (I live in Sweden after all)
However he could have spared the spiteful take off, but whatever.
That's the same thing where I live, it's odd how the world is so small
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OhforfSake
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posted June 17, 2014 04:21 PM |
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I'm always biased towards certain members 
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meroe
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posted June 17, 2014 04:23 PM |
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xerox said:
So is there any actual discussion in this thread, or is it the usual feminist hate circle jerk?
Yeah I gave up a while back.
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OhforfSake
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posted June 17, 2014 04:25 PM |
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Ebonheart
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posted June 17, 2014 04:31 PM |
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OhforfSake said:
What hatred?
I think he meant the hatred for people who are or supports feminists.
Yes there is a discussion but I can't see the hatred part.
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OhforfSake
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posted June 17, 2014 04:36 PM |
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I figured that much , but I thought if Xerox wanted to know, he could just read the thread.. and would reach the conclusion that it wasn't.. what really surprised me is that meroe agrees?
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meroe
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posted June 17, 2014 04:42 PM |
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I was throwing a girly fit, Forfy. The thread got derailed somewhat and I haven't had my coffee, so I was being an a**
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OhforfSake
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posted June 17, 2014 04:45 PM |
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Well you were being a cute one then.
You had me all confused there for a moment.
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Gnomes2169
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posted June 17, 2014 04:58 PM |
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Huh, I'm shockingly posting in an OSM thread... what's wrong with me? Answer: I apparently don't learn and/ or am a masochist. But anyway, onto the actual topic at hand...
Feminism and Feminazis are two parts of the same ideology, but on different ends of the spectrum. The majority of feminists are sane, fair minded people that are honestly trying to fix some blatantly obvious problems with discrimination and worker's rights... but then there are the "problem" individuals that will be part of any organization that gets large enough. These individuals will twist and distort the heart of the movement for their own personal benefit or to fulfill a personal vendeta against a certain group, and people labeled as "feminazis" do not deviate from this pattern.
Where a feminist might look at a problem (let's go with consensual sex vs. rape) and make note of the disparity and horribleness of it, as they rightfully should, a "feminazi" would claim that all men, because of any case of rape occurring, are rapists just waiting for the chance to pull it off, and that there should be legal actions that force men to "behave" (such as reporting to a parole officer every hour that they are not sleeping or working, or otherwise being treated as a criminal) and they would do so claiming that it's in the name of "equal rights". A feminist would point at the signs of rape and say "Don't do these because rape is bad, mmmmkay?" while a feminazi would point at any sex between a man and a woman and scream at the top of their lungs, "rape, rape!" and be wrong nine hundred ninety nine times out of one thousand... but it still has to go to court to prove them wrong.
For women in the military, a feminist would argue that women who enlist should be allowed to go to the front lines and fight just like a man who enlisted (I am, in fact, part of this group). They would logically point out that in today's day and age, weapons don't rely so much on strength as they do precision, and that women and men tend to be about equal marksmen when they are properly trained to be so. As well, the feminist would want more female officers, because there hasn't been a truly conclusive study that's found that women are less able to lead (In fact, if I remember right, it's the other way around...). A "feminazi", on the other hand, would say that women have to have every officer position (so as to make up for all the oppression from centuries before hand), while the entire fighting force has to be made up of grunt soldiers, so only males are fit for the role.
These are the kinds of feminists that I'm talking about when I hear the word "faminazi". They are not the sane, well-intentioned people who want to make the world better, but the ones that go out of their way to make problems, who want men to literally be slaves and who no one takes seriously (and who the feminist movement does not associate themselves with). These are also the women/ men who would demand that +90% of all work forces have to be made of women, and that all men should be stay-at-home dads/ relegated to mere grunt work so that they can feel the years of oppression that females have felt. They are the extremists that give the movement a bad name, and no one likes them.
The name "feminazi" is a derogatory term, yes, but then, so is chauvinist, and both of them are terms used for bigots... it's just that one is a girl, and the other is a guy, and people are lazy and don't want to say "Guy bigot" and "girl bigot" every time they are having an argument about this subject. Is it impolite? Yes. Is it the worst thing ever? Lolno. The WORST thng would be the feminist movement being entirely dismantled over the actions of these few bigoted idiots.
I will admit that there are more chauvinists than there are feminazis, in fact, that's why I like and support the feminist movement, but just because one set of extremist ****heads exists does not excuse the opposing extremist ****heads from judgement or being called out. Both are in the wrong, and both need to take a chill pill and start respecting other people's rights. On the chauvinist side, they need to listen to the feminist movement and actually treat women with respect, on the feminazi side, they need to listen to the feminist movement, figure out that they do not stand for a different kind of discrimination, and treat men with respect.
But that's just me being crazy and hopping into an OSM thread after months of non-debate, so 'm probably spouting nonsense here.
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OhforfSake
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posted June 17, 2014 05:04 PM |
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Not nonsense, a very nice and well written post, Gnomes21692391784. Thanks for sharing your insights, I enjoyed reading it.
I've one question though!
Gnomes2169 said:
women who enlist should be allowed to go to the front lines and fight just like a man who enlisted (I am, in fact, part of this group).
You're a women who wants to go to the front line?
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fred79
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posted June 17, 2014 05:18 PM |
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wow, four pages already? so far i have only read page one. i'll take my time, get some breakfast, and read the rest later. 
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Jabanoss
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posted June 17, 2014 05:53 PM |
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Isn't it amazing that talking about feminism can get so many people outraged? One would imagine that most people would get behind the idea of equality, but I guess not. :/
Makes me think that folks who don't like Feminism have no idea what it is about, or they simply just are die hard misogynists.
The funniest thing is when people claim they want equality, but say they don't like Feminism because feminism is apparently all about women dominance...
I want to say thank you to Adrius and Meroe for talking the time to respond to this thread.
meroe said:
When I get annoyed at some of the silly things guys say, you know even when they are joking and trying to be funny, they come out with stupid stuff like "I'm gonna rape you" or "you need a good raping". I know that for some strange and dumb reason these are phrases used at the moment and people aren't supposed to take offense. But like some dumb idiot I laugh, because these people are my friends and I don't want to embarrass them etc etc. Even though I want to punch them in the face for trivializing sexual violence.
So glad you mentioned this, I too am sick and tired of trivialization of rape.
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JoonasTo
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posted June 17, 2014 05:58 PM |
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Feminism is flawed to begin with. It should be called equalism.
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Jabanoss
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posted June 17, 2014 06:04 PM |
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Why? It's just a word.
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OhforfSake
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posted June 17, 2014 06:08 PM |
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It's a descriptor..
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Tsar-Ivor
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posted June 17, 2014 06:12 PM |
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@Jaba
So is ****, **** and ****. On their own they're technically meaningless, but to claim that they are is pretentious.
As for feminism, I don't believe in it, I believe that every person has their own individual worth, and that no two people are to be treated the same, nor payed the same. Of course this brings in personal prejudices, well when you have a society where everyone promotes their own personal interest their own whims become their policy, for example "I dislike women working" and I have the power to not hire women, or hire as few as possible. Feminist say that you can't do that, and force their views on the backward thinker. What right do feminists have enforcing their views on others? No more than the sexist does to enforce his, the difference being that he's dealing within his own sphere, while the feminist is meddling in other peoples'.
Till communism comes we must uphold individual freedoms fairly. This willy nilly left and right wing hogwash is so ****ing inconsistent that it makes me want to scream like a banshee.
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