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JeremiahEmo
JeremiahEmo


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posted June 18, 2014 08:06 AM

Do Developers Make Creature Gender Decisions or Publishers?

Hello guys, sorry, I'm not really familiar with all these

but are the developers to blame for the feminist political correctness of Heroes 6 or the publishers?

The reason why I'm asking is that I heard Ubi dropped Blackhole as its Developers, so I don't know if I'll be happy or not.

If it was the developers who made those decisions then, I'll be happy, there's a greater chance Heroes 7 will NOT be feministic, if not, then, here's hoping Heroes 7 will go back to the greatness it once was.

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Storm-Giant
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posted June 18, 2014 11:25 AM

This guy keeps opening threads with the same subject, lol

Will you stop
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Steyn
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posted June 18, 2014 11:29 AM
Edited by Steyn at 11:29, 18 Jun 2014.

For someone who is not really familiar with it, he is awfully good at spamming

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JeremiahEmo
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posted June 18, 2014 03:08 PM

why am I instantly hated for not liking the female dominance in Heroes 6? There were a few people complaining about the male dominance in Heroes 5 and people respected their opinions. That's double standard.


Anyway, back to topic, is it Ubi's fault or Blackholes?

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OhforfSake
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posted June 18, 2014 03:13 PM

What are you talking about? You're the only one here who mentioned females and males. You're being criticized for opening multiple threads with the same topic.
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DagothGares
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posted June 18, 2014 03:30 PM

Developpers develop the game. Publishers publish it. Content is made by the developper, but publishers can put arbitrary demands on the developper, like: "There has to be might and magic elements in our might and magic game."
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bloodsucker
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posted June 18, 2014 03:31 PM

JeremiahEmo said:
why am I instantly hated for not liking the female dominance in Heroes 6? There were a few people complaining about the male dominance in Heroes 5 and people respected their opinions. That's double standard.


Anyway, back to topic, is it Ubi's fault or Blackholes?


Even if I hated the female genies on IV I don't care much about creature gender at all but in V the were some from the Dark Elves that were a gift to the eye. So, as chauvinist as I can be, it is a pleasure to have female creatures, if they are lookers!

I thing that even if the decision to make this or that creature male or female could have been taken by the developers, obviously the marketing decision of make politacly correct gender creatures (if there was one) has to came from Ubisoft.

I must say I find this discussion pointless.

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OhforfSake
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posted June 18, 2014 03:37 PM
Edited by OhforfSake at 15:42, 18 Jun 2014.

DagothGares said:
"There has to be might and magic elements in our might and magic game."


Which they say just as we finish our newest installment, might & magic heroes 43 cute bunnies edition, no war, only love. Mainly consisting of character from MLP doing back flips and driving stunt cars.

Edit: I almost forgot why I wrote in the first place.
@bloodsucker I don't agree women are only good for their looks. If you play might and magic series, choosing a female sorc/cleric versus a male one gives at least me a very different feel for the character. Somehow I see the male sorcerer more light magic oriented, poor at combat, an archmage who seeks peace and uses light magic to end the meaningless wars, while the female sorceress uses fast daggers for lethal blows together with wicked dark magic and in her pursuit of evil she sacrifices her beautiful flesh to become a horrendous lich who sets the world ablaze.
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verriker
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posted June 18, 2014 05:12 PM

JeremiahEmo said:
Hello guys, sorry, I'm not really familiar with all these

but are the developers to blame for the feminist political correctness of Heroes 6 or the publishers?

The reason why I'm asking is that I heard Ubi dropped Blackhole as its Developers, so I don't know if I'll be happy or not.

If it was the developers who made those decisions then, I'll be happy, there's a greater chance Heroes 7 will NOT be feministic, if not, then, here's hoping Heroes 7 will go back to the greatness it once was.


lol

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Gnomes2169
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posted June 18, 2014 07:20 PM

Oh my god Forfy, yes. XD

Oh, and @OP... Unless the publisher specifies that they need/ want something, the Developer is given full license over the title. The publisher can still veto things that the developer adds in, but without a look at the contract/ the vetos made, we can't exactly say who's decission it was. (Though we can assume that the pub at least appeoved of the female saturation... Seeing as they didn't kill it like our hopes and dreams. )

That being said, why all the girl hate? In a magic setting, HoMM doesn't exactly push any boudaries as far as letting girls into combat... Hell, if they added in BABIES as a combat unit that wouldn't be unheard of. *Cough*AgeofWonders3Draconians*Cough*

The only things I didn't like about the female units were where they came from, lore wise. Glories were basically mini angels according to their lore (why? You already had angels damnit, and a demon/ witch hunter of some kind would have worked better for the setting imo) Also, if Haven has that many holy virgins laying around, how are they spawning that many troops? And seriously, the spring maiden is just dumb. Like, no excuses, it's dumb. Hate it so much... More because I never figured out how to use it than anything else. Besides those things, I actually liked how they functioned in gane and didn't mind that they were females. Hell, that was a non-issue to me.

... Spring spirits are the exception, as the entire unit was just dumb. Hate them so much.
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Rakshasa92
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posted June 19, 2014 05:58 PM

Ahhhh! Do the girls not like you? Are the girls bad to you?

I only dislike the Sister and Centaur, I want it to become the Zealot again, other girls are fine.
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kayna
kayna


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posted July 05, 2014 02:30 AM

Get on with the program bro. When you apply to a job requiring social interaction, and a girl applies, at equal skills, she will get the job. Yes. They put girls everywhere now. Just go to the gym and tell yourself at least you don't need to get fake tits to get 'em big.

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JeremiahEmo
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posted July 07, 2014 12:06 PM

LoL. The comments here are funny.

What are you saying kayna? Are you saying that a girl who has equal skills and qualifications as I do will get hired over me just because she is a girl?
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Storm-Giant
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posted July 07, 2014 12:14 PM

JeremiahEmo said:
LoL. The comments here are funny.

Ok, it wasn't even funny when he began. When this troll is silenced?
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JeremiahEmo
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posted July 07, 2014 03:25 PM

I'm just clarifying what kayna said Storm-Giant.

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Elvin
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posted July 07, 2014 04:18 PM

JeremiahEmo said:
Are you saying that a girl who has equal skills and qualifications as I do will get hired over me just because she is a girl?

That depends. Is she hot?

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Fauch
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posted July 07, 2014 05:15 PM

I don't get why everything must be a pretext to sexism now. anyway, when medias aren't fueling racism against blacks/ muslims/ jews/ romanians, etc.... it is the poor women who get victimized because they aren't featured in the new assassin's creed... and who knows, some celebrity might have done a sexist joke, which would be more than a good reason for women to start a riot, right?...

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JeremiahEmo
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posted July 07, 2014 08:34 PM

Elvin said:
JeremiahEmo said:
Are you saying that a girl who has equal skills and qualifications as I do will get hired over me just because she is a girl?

That depends. Is she hot?


exactly. Sucks for us good looking guys though, I don't think there's any she-HR that would hire us for our looks.


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bloodsucker
bloodsucker


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posted July 08, 2014 10:25 AM

JeremiahEmo said:
Elvin said:
JeremiahEmo said:
Are you saying that a girl who has equal skills and qualifications as I do will get hired over me just because she is a girl?

That depends. Is she hot?


exactly. Sucks for us good looking guys though, I don't think there's any she-HR that would hire us for our looks.





Well, if you are more available for couch test then she is I may reconsider. After all a piece of ass is a piece of ass and I'm the kind of guy that do well in prisons.

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kayna
kayna


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posted July 08, 2014 04:07 PM

If you want to be hired cuz you re a hot guy I suggest applying to a job where old grand ma's often hang. Perhaps you could work at a bingo or something, so all grand ma's can stare at your ass every time you turn around, if that s what you re so jealous of.

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