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Celfious
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posted October 04, 2016 10:07 AM |
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Edited by Celfious at 10:18, 04 Oct 2016.
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EnergyZ
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posted October 04, 2016 10:13 AM |
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What if both Trump and Clinton would both be presidents? I know it is impossible, but what if it really happened? Hopefully not a civil war.
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Celfious
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posted October 04, 2016 11:01 AM |
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Edited by Celfious at 11:22, 04 Oct 2016.
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Assange is coming on now....
*excited 8)
edit: rolls eyes
Publications to come every week starting this week, the US election related leaks, if I heard correctly, will be out in full by November 8th...
Waste of my hour and a half........
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fred79
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posted October 04, 2016 12:48 PM |
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is that tabloid media, celf? looks like the cover of "the enquirer". 
hillary'll be the next president, take my word for it. and, even if she isn't(which i don't believe whatsoever), trump wouldn't be able to carry out what he plans, regardless. he'll have more people fighting him than people fought obama and "his ideas". it'll be like having congress as the president, ffs; nothing at all would get done. even if it DID, it would be something that would line the pockets of businessmen.
whoever the next president is(hillary), the common man and woman are going to LOSE. and when hillary becomes president, men are going to lose the MOST. COUNT on it.
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fred79
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posted October 04, 2016 01:25 PM |
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something that just occured to me:
why doesn't anyone discuss the potential ramifications for vice presidents hiding behind the two presidential candidates? if so much hate is towards trump and hillary, and if someone takes whoever becomes prez out, then you'd be looking at the vice president as president, right? so why aren't the vice presidential candidates being scrutinized as well? what kind of people are they, and what do they represent?
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Celfious
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posted October 04, 2016 05:24 PM |
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it was just a 10 year anniversary of wikileaks, talking about akll they have accomplished and promising one wikileak per week for the next 10 weeks. Somethings coming about our election all by November 8th.
I don't like trump or hillary but I feel the earth would recover faster from trumps quick world end versus hillarys slow penetration of many systems like the watertable etc etc...
I won't pst anything else about wikileaks unless it is substantial
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fred79
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posted October 04, 2016 05:51 PM |
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Celfious said:
I won't pst anything else about wikileaks unless it is substantial
you can post whatever you want, i was just worried that you were posting content(based on the graphic) from the same junk tabloid that produced "bat boy"; which would definitely make your pov on things much more likely to not be taken seriously by others. wikileaks is a horse of a different color, though; the good kind. 
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posted October 04, 2016 06:27 PM |
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Hillary will stand down, Obama will call emergency card and will stay on the throne for a while 
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markkur
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posted October 04, 2016 07:24 PM |
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fred79 said:
wikileaks is a horse of a different color, though; the good kind.
Agree. I've listened to the man in captivity a few times and he doesn't seem a nutcase by any stretch. It is a sad state of reporting when "investigative journalism bit the dust for the most part and now we often have to rely <imo> on non-mainstream sources of truth. That very fact by default, makes us need to be careful with everything we read, see or hear. 
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artu
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posted October 08, 2016 05:24 PM |
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emilsn91
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posted October 10, 2016 09:11 AM |
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The 2nd Debate
Disclaimer: I am all for the democrats.
Trump is very very special. It is beyond me how a man can use three women who have accused Bill Clinton of sexual harassment and assault as an argument against Hilary. It's tasteless.
I know that there is a lot of dirt on Hilary as well. I get that, but Trump is so over the top, so arrogant and he disgust me really.
In the end I would have hoped that this would wake up the U.S and make them realize that they need to reevaluate their political system. There is something wrong if the two most unpopular / unqualified candidates are left.
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OmegaDestroyer
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posted October 10, 2016 01:13 PM |
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We get what we deserve.
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posted October 10, 2016 02:33 PM |
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Blizzardman
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posted October 10, 2016 03:43 PM |
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emilsn91 said:
Disclaimer: I am all for the democrats.
Trump is very very special. It is beyond me how a man can use three women who have accused Bill Clinton of sexual harassment and assault as an argument against Hilary. It's tasteless.
I know that there is a lot of dirt on Hilary as well. I get that, but Trump is so over the top, so arrogant and he disgust me really.
In the end I would have hoped that this would wake up the U.S and make them realize that they need to reevaluate their political system. There is something wrong if the two most unpopular / unqualified candidates are left.
Except Trump and Hillary are not the two most unpopular candidates (though it is enough to say that other candidates would be more popular). They both rose to the top of their parties' elections by popular vote. Democracy caused this.
So, although there are imperfections in the system (which I could talk about, but it would use up a lot of space to address and I'm on a smartphone. In short: the election process uses an archaic model and it would require a large battle to change that, which has not yet been fought and due to an ongoing neck to neck polarization in American politics, that battle realistically may still be many years away) the greater concern is sociological and not legal/political. Something(s) is driving people to desire bad leaders, because those bad leaders still have something appealing about them that is overriding our better angels, so to speak.
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Zenofex
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posted October 10, 2016 03:54 PM |
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Edited by Zenofex at 15:59, 10 Oct 2016.
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It's far simpler actually, the mainstream candidates just have far better financial backing - meaning greater propaganda power via the media of all sorts (you don't vote for us, your vote is wasted). You have oligarchy-selected candidates which run for high offices, real "popular" vote comes into play only when a large number of people become so disgruntled with the status quo that they simply refuse to vote for usual suspects, whoever they are (this is how the populists raise to power though). It looks like the pain tolerance limit of the regular US voter has not been reached yet.
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Stevie
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posted October 10, 2016 04:51 PM |
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artu
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My BS sensor is tingling again
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posted October 10, 2016 05:31 PM |
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Zenofex said:
You have oligarchy-selected candidates which run for high offices, real "popular" vote comes into play only when a large number of people become so disgruntled with the status quo that they simply refuse to vote for usual suspects, whoever they are (this is how the populists raise to power though).It looks like the pain tolerance limit of the regular US voter has not been reached yet.
I think, Trump is that populist. Him not being one of the elites who exploits the system's flaws is an illusion but that's the rhetorical card he plays.
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posted October 10, 2016 07:06 PM |
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Trump's career as a populist candiate is effectively over. Alienating half of the population does that to you.
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markkur
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posted October 10, 2016 07:07 PM |
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artu said:
Him not being one of the elites who exploits the system's flaws is an illusion but that's the rhetorical card he plays.
I'd say more the factual "turn the table" since the typical working of our Government has been; to get rid of Politicians that only went to represent the interests for Corporations they had previously worked against or Corporate outsiders working against the people's interest coming into the Government and supposedly representing the people's interests against the company they left.{Think Cheney & Halliburton) That is no illusion.
What Trump would actually do cannot possibly be seen yet but one thing should be clear...he is no politician. He was born with an Elite silver spoon in his mouth and because of that fact the question for me is; now that he has an empire can he change and give a damn about the future world of his own grandchildren? Maybe, but I wish I knew. But Hillary? Never. The Woman is unfit to lead this nation and if lying before Congress about her clandestine purposes does not make that clear - nothing I can add will.
Because of our corrupt Media, people here actually believe Russia is a serious threat and I think it is the Clinton Bush Obama string that is ever causing that threat. If Hillary gets in I believe it will be painfully obvious to people that now refuse to see the facts, since so many are blind regarding what has and is happening in the Middle-East. The beat goes on.
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Kayna
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posted October 10, 2016 07:53 PM |
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Edited by Kayna at 04:08, 11 Oct 2016.
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JollyJoker said:
Trump's career as a populist candiate is effectively over. Alienating half of the population does that to you.
With men beings 48 % of the population and women 52 %, it's wiser to side with women. Women are so nice, they're always right too! Especially single mothers, the white knights of this society. The pillar that supports us all. Hillary got a pu---, she's way better than Trump.
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