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posted July 16, 2014 11:31 PM |
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This looks rather interesting. Didn't see this kind of behavior before.
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Well, I'll try to be concise:
With the increase of women's rights, people are getting more and more confused on what's now allowed and what's not. At least that's how I see it.
I've grown up in a place where might makes right; of course I've never been taught that men and women are equal. Yet I kind of have to admit that, no matter how much feminists are trying to make the two sexes equal, they never will be.
Literally speaking men and women are different and cannot be the same, y'know different reproductive organs, hormones, etc.
What they can do, however, is fight for the freedom of both genders. Men are forced to be... err, manly, and women... obedient. I just hate that. The religions and their teachings are dumbing their followers. Christianity says that a man and his wife must be committed to eachother and that they should love eachother and whatnot. Then again, we got witch hunts because people thought that a dark looking woman was immediately a devil-serving old hag and so they burned her. I've never heard of a warlock/wizard hunt though...
I won't even start on Islam, because I seriously don't want to dwell on religion anymore.
Now, under the influence of all these religions people from all over the world figured out that being a man is like being the boss and being a woman means that you have to be silent and obedient.
Seeing that religions are pretty much regulating the life since who-knows-when, this has become a norm.
This norm is what makes you laugh when you see a woman in a leading position. I'm not talking just about being the head of a company, but even driving a car, or, in this case, sexally teasing a boy in a bus... Ok, that didn't sound right.
Now, about the video... I, too, like the people in the bus, find this funny. There's this part of me that screams "GODDAMMIT, WHY AM I NOT IN HIS PLACE", coz I'm a hormone-crazy teen 
Yet, this is not right because the boy is just too young for that kind of stuff.
I know that I'd have the same face if it happened to me; it's a bus for crying out loud! ((I'd bang her if we were in private though  Just look at those tatas! ))
Basicly, I'm really confused as to what to do because I've never seen anything like this before.
Disclaimer: I may, but probably won't respond to this anymore. Thanks for reading this probably confusing post. I'm tired and have no idea what I'm talking about.
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posted July 17, 2014 07:12 AM |
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posted July 17, 2014 08:26 AM |
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Because this thread has so much wrong in it that I am out of here.
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posted July 17, 2014 11:19 AM |
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I totally approve of this picture 
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posted July 17, 2014 11:40 AM |
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Mostly seen that shared in anti-feminism circles. The women "AND" men seems to point at men allegedely not being included in the feminist fight against sexism.
They are though, obviously.
Deconstructing the idea of manliness (and gender roles as a whole) to allow men to be more free to express their emotions and **** is central to it.
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Actually there's so much damn wrong with that pic I don't even know. Sigh.
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posted July 17, 2014 12:29 PM |
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Right.
It's basically the same thing than this "joke" when a father is beginning to give his son a serious beating, commenting, "this will hurt me more than you, son".
Because it says, hey, no reason to get mad at us, just because we oppressed you over the centuries and millennia - we suffered just as much from it, since we had to oppress our female side to do it (and suffered as much).
And typically, the offer of peace, love and understanding does NOT come as long as one side dominates, but only when things start to go awry.
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posted July 17, 2014 01:49 PM |
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i don't see what's wrong with the picture, it brings up valid points. the issue i have with feminism, that i see every time a male brings up their point of view, is that they should "suck it up", "stop whining", etc. and that's a double-standard. just because one side has dominated for so long, does in no way mean that they cannot be equal with the oppressed. when feminists talk about "equal rights", what i'm seeing(from every argument FOR feminism), is that it is now the females time to dominate. which is why the male perspective is pushed aside. if you want to talk about fairness, then be fair. BOTH sexes get equal rights. NOT "we can dominate, because it's our turn". that's the impression i get, when people respond negatively to a picture that states valid points like that.
that's like saying, because whites ruled certain aspects for so long, that it is other races' turn to rule.
when instead, it should be, EQUAL RIGHTS, REGARDLESS OF RACE.
if people who supported feminism gave the idea that they were actually FOR equal rights, then i might side with them. but they don't. countless times, i see they just want a balance shift in THEIR favor. which is just as bad as males/whites dominating alone, in my opinion. when i say, that i'm all for equality, that's EXACTLY WHAT I MEAN.
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posted July 17, 2014 03:04 PM |
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I can't speak for those feminists you've talked to but I've never talked to a feminist that has wanted women to rule over men.
That pic depicts a man in conflict with the established gender order, which is fair enough and it's problematic. However it's NOT equal to that of women. A man can choose to follow the norm (and many do) and reap the benefits that come with it. Women CANNOT, they are oppressed simply by virtue of being female.
See the difference?
In feminist discussions I don't think our perspectives are worth as much as that of a female. You're talking about the opinion of the oppressor being as valid as that of the oppressed. That doesn't work, we don't get to come and define their struggle against us. You need to be humble as **** and realize that it's not your show.
You don't reach equality by just saying "we're equal" and holding that view, as a man it requires giving room, sacrificing power and constantly deconstructing your own genderrole.. and even if you do that it still won't make you less of an oppressor because you're still in a position of power for as long as you're a man in a man's world. Women won't stop being oppressed and we won't stop being oppressors until the patriarchy is destroyed. It sucks but that's reality.
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posted July 17, 2014 03:55 PM |
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Feminism has always been about equal rights. True feminism has never been about depriving men of their equal share either. Certain people on this forum keep harking back to the days of the angry feminists who were sick and tired of the rampant sexism they had to deal with on a daily basis and due to the attitudes of the times, such as the 60's things got out of hand with some and desperation lead to some really stupid attitudes and things being said. However, to liken all women who believe in feminism as power hungry man-haters who wish to rule to the world is just another attempt at males trying to belittle feminism. Its another oppression.
It would be like me saying that seeing as Hitler or Pol Pot are men, then all men must be insane tyrants who wish to inflict mass genocide on us all. Can you now see how pathetic that is? Because we know that is not true. So lets cut the feminist bashing just because of a few a-holes that can ruin the genuinely good hardwork others have done. OOOOh and let me stress that when I said A-holes, I meant both male and female just to clarify so I don't upset anyone who may think I am insinuating something, even though I am talking about women right now 
As for the 'suck it up' and 'stop whining' reference. Adrius put it very nicely. Men have never had to share power before and its frightening. Men have simply got to understand that power is not their's alone. We women do not want to strip men of their power, we just want to be able to have our own and work alongside our men as equals. That is the reality.
The fear's most men show and I have seen so much of it in this forum is simply your subconscious fear that by somehow sharing your power with women will mean you lose something. Well yes, you will. What you will lose is the total control you have enjoyed for so many thousands of years, regarding everything. Your power has never just been about your own personal issues, its been about everything. Work, religion, marriage, children, sex, politics, construction, education ....... blah blah. Everything. In fact its so deeply ingrained and men are so unconsciously accustomed to having total control, they are practically unaware of the realities of it. They cannot see the wood for the trees.
So yes, you lose total control and allow women their rights - to make decisions, get involved in the running of things, help structure the countries laws etc etc. Our western society is greater than many other societies because we have understood the need for equality a lot sooner than others.
If you begin to understand what I am saying here, about man's luxury in having total control and that understanding by sharing the power and giving women their own power would enrich us all, it wouldn't be so frightening.
Ultimately women do not wish to subjugate and abuse men, which is the ignorant rally cry from anti-feminists we hear so much. We don't wish that at all, because that would not benefit society or us in the least. We simply want what is rightly ours - to be equal in everything, to enjoy the freedoms and rights of our men and not be held back because of our sex.
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posted July 17, 2014 04:49 PM |
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Adrius said:
I can't speak for those feminists you've talked to but I've never talked to a feminist that has wanted women to rule over men.
That pic depicts a man in conflict with the established gender order, which is fair enough and it's problematic. However it's NOT equal to that of women. A man can choose to follow the norm (and many do) and reap the benefits that come with it. Women CANNOT, they are oppressed simply by virtue of being female.
See the difference?
i'm talking about the responses here at HC to both the boy being molested, and the responses to the picture above. i don't deal with anyone's agenda outside of HC, because i won't waste my time outside of the internet. i keep to myself because i find many arguments in the real world to be beyond ridiculous, and it just makes me hate people more for how pea-brained they are.
now, when you say a man can choose to follow "the norm", what exactly are you referring to? what kind of "norm" can man follow and not women? the pic depicts a conflict within the established gender, yes. women have different gender issues they face, which are no less important. but BOTH sexes have issues they face, is the point i'm trying to make here. if the issues of ONE sex are ignored, then that is sexist(which goes against the idea of equality, which people here keep saying that feminists are against). do you see my point?
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In feminist discussions I don't think our perspectives are worth as much as that of a female. You're talking about the opinion of the oppressor being as valid as that of the oppressed. That doesn't work, we don't get to come and define their struggle against us. You need to be humble as **** and realize that it's not your show.
You don't reach equality by just saying "we're equal" and holding that view, as a man it requires giving room, sacrificing power and constantly deconstructing your own genderrole.. and even if you do that it still won't make you less of an oppressor because you're still in a position of power for as long as you're a man in a man's world. Women won't stop being oppressed and we won't stop being oppressors until the patriarchy is destroyed. It sucks but that's reality.
this is utterly ****ing ridiculous. saying that i am an oppressor merely because i'm male, is like saying that i'm a racist just because i'm white. you DO realize this, right? i have NO power over anyone. i am currently UNEMPLOYED. i cannot GET A JOB. so who's to blame for that? racists? sexists? no, the blame lies with the increasing population, which makes the job market more difficult(although that is not solely the issue, there ARE other factors, just that they do not make as much of an impact as a continually increasing population).
the people who need to be blamed for a certain sex having a more difficult time getting employed, are the people in power who HIRE. i, on the other hand, have as much influence as a circus clown.
my family never owned slaves, and yet many blacks seem to think that all white people were slave owners, as well(and their enemies). do you see the issues with that way of thinking?
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posted July 17, 2014 04:49 PM |
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i cant understand what is wrong with the picture
-meore, you'd be surprised how much women these days, esspacily those born 1985+ use the mentality "men up, suck it up"
or "its okay if a woman punches a man,shes brave,but if the opposite hes a jerk"
ill give you better example: a man and woman fight in a joke,the man uses extreme reserve not to hurt the woman, the woman uses 120% of her forces,to win. not giving to any rules, if she inflicts him with physical pain and he complains he is a sissy and needs to man up, if he uses enough force to win or even hurt her by mistake he is a scumbag and it hes fault...what does needs to do?
feminism is partially wrong because like it was said here men and women are nothing like the same, brain works differently,body is different, and many many more differences.. sexism is even worse as it hurts both sexes.
what can be used is equality in a harsher method. not backing down on a woman because she is one would be best course of action IMO.
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posted July 17, 2014 05:01 PM |
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antipaladin said:
i cant understand what is wrong with the picture
-meore, you'd be surprised how much women these days, esspacily those born 1985+ use the mentality "men up, suck it up"
or "its okay if a woman punches a man,shes brave,but if the opposite hes a jerk"
ill give you better example: a man and woman fight in a joke,the man uses extreme reserve not to hurt the woman, the woman uses 120% of her forces,to win. not giving to any rules, if she inflicts him with physical pain and he complains he is a sissy and needs to man up, if he uses enough force to win or even hurt her by mistake he is a scumbag and it hes fault...what does needs to do?
feminism is partially wrong because like it was said here men and women are nothing like the same, brain works differently,body is different, and many many more differences.. sexism is even worse as it hurts both sexes.
what can be used is equality in a harsher method. not backing down on a woman because she is one would be best course of action IMO.
See this is the problem Anti, you take 'one' particular incident and use it as some sort of proof that all women/men do the same.
There are just as many women out there who would never dream of trying to annihilate someone in an argument like that. Just as there are as many men out there who would have no qualms whatsoever in just smacking the women in the face immediately.
Regardless of body shapes, chemicals in the brain. Women are by no means inferior Anti. And we have been treated as inferior. That is wrong, untrue and unfair.
And why would a woman be expected to back down from an argument, if she is right??? Just because? Hell no.
I've had plenty of arguments with both male and female and I've never resorted to violence once. Its an individual thing, not a gender thing. If a man has to win an argument by punching his opponent - that doesn't make him right, it makes him a thug. And if a woman does exactly the same, she too is a thug.
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posted July 17, 2014 05:12 PM |
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posted July 17, 2014 05:14 PM |
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meroe said:
However, to liken all women who believe in feminism as power hungry man-haters who wish to rule to the world is just another attempt at males trying to belittle feminism. Its another oppression.
i'm likening the one-sided reactions of people who back up feminism, to very real issues, regarding both sexes. that's NOT oppression, that's me seeing the responses, and assimilating them properly. what i see, is hypocrisy, and more than that, male-bashing.
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As for the 'suck it up' and 'stop whining' reference. Adrius put it very nicely. Men have never had to share power before and its frightening. Men have simply got to understand that power is not their's alone. We women do not want to strip men of their power, we just want to be able to have our own and work alongside our men as equals. That is the reality.
bull****. what is there to be frightened of, when it comes to equality? that's projection, pure and simple. the u.s. wasn't afraid of having a woman president, or a black man, and yet, both of these groups claim oppression. you keep saying that men think they should have all the power, and i'm saying, you're full of ****. there are female leaders all over the world. sure, you have sexists, but their voices mean just as much as racists. which is to say, NOTHING. their voice becomes invalid, as soon as they state something racist or sexist. which is the issue i'm bringing up against feminism, regarding the posters here at HC who are backing it up. do you see how these ridiculous arguments are hurting your causes, people?
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The fear's most men show and I have seen so much of it in this forum is simply your subconscious fear that by somehow sharing your power with women will mean you lose something. Well yes, you will. What you will lose is the total control you have enjoyed for so many thousands of years, regarding everything. Your power has never just been about your own personal issues, its been about everything. Work, religion, marriage, children, sex, politics, construction, education ....... blah blah. Everything. In fact its so deeply ingrained and men are so unconsciously accustomed to having total control, they are practically unaware of the realities of it. They cannot see the wood for the trees.
again, bull****, and projection. to sexists, maybe, this holds up(and there are very few here at HC). to me and every other person who actually wants equality across the board, this is just a completely sexist statement, and further hurts your cause, because you see males as power-crazy he-man woman-haters, who fear sharing their rights with women. understand, there ISN'T ANY TOTAL CONTROL over anything.
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If you begin to understand what I am saying here, about man's luxury in having total control and that understanding by sharing the power and giving women their own power would enrich us all, it wouldn't be so frightening.
projection. i have no fear of equality, whatsoever.
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Ultimately women do not wish to subjugate and abuse men, which is the ignorant rally cry from anti-feminists we hear so much. We don't wish that at all, because that would not benefit society or us in the least. We simply want what is rightly ours - to be equal in everything, to enjoy the freedoms and rights of our men and not be held back because of our sex.
the only things that i, personally, would deny human beings(as a whole), is their right to continually reproduce at will, and their freedom to abuse the environments they live in however they see fit. those two, and ONLY those two.
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posted July 17, 2014 05:40 PM |
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now, when you say a man can choose to follow "the norm", what exactly are you referring to? what kind of "norm" can man follow and not women?
The position that draws the highest benefits from society at large is being white, male and heterosexual. Deviations are discriminated against. Men can choose to act accordingly even though they might not identify fully with that norm (male not simply being having a penis, but also the expected behaviors that we consider manly). Women can be white and heterosexual (which reaps benefits) but they cannot (at least as far as society at large is concerned) be male.
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the pic depicts a conflict within the established gender, yes. women have different gender issues they face, which are no less important. but BOTH sexes have issues they face, is the point i'm trying to make here. if the issues of ONE sex are ignored, then that is sexist(which goes against the idea of equality, which people here keep saying that feminists are against). do you see my point?
Who's ignoring what now? Yes, ignoring such issues would be stupid. Have not said otherwise.
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this is utterly ****ing ridiculous. saying that i am an oppressor merely because i'm male, is like saying that i'm a racist just because i'm white.
I don't think you're a rascist but you do oppress racialized people by being white. This is out of your control, because it's less about what you do and more about society and its structures. You will be privileged by society for being white, at the expense of those who are not, just as you are for being male and not female.
You can fight against it though, but the first step would be to actually admit that you are in a position of power at the expense of others.
It ****ing sucks and it hurts.
This isn't simple stuff to understand cuz we're generally so immersed in our roles. Like a gender matrix if you will.
(I still like Sinfest cuz it confirms my worldviews even though it lost its humour hehe...)
I suggest reading up on male privilege and the patriarchy if you're truly interested. I don't know it well enough to explain it without using like 10 pages and all my free time.
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Women are by no means inferior Anti. And we have been treated as inferior. That is wrong, untrue and unfair.
As a rule of thumb, in animal species where the female is larger, from spiders to fish, the female is dominant.
With humans, the female is smaller and weaker. Is there any purer kind of inferiority? It was the only thing that mattered back when these things came to be.
When people were enslaved, they were made so through the force of arms, and usually technologically superior arms too.
From a good enough position, one that doesn't rely on strength of body as much as strength of character - and these positions are the ones that matter today - there really is no need to state the obvious fact that chicks perform as well as guys. All those queens and Merkels throughout history, all the Mary Shelleys and the Marie Curies and the Jean d'Arcs, they seemed to do alright. It was harder for them to get there given their lot in life, because they were chicks, sure. But a chick on a court was in a far better position than a male serf out in the cabbage fields. While the male serf was generally in charge over the female one, and the male courtier over a female one, it was simply another dimension of a social headstart. Of the same kind as that of a noble over a burger, and a burger's over a peasant's.
It's all the same pool of social injustice, which needs a thorough sorting out. If people focus only on one point inside this pool, the other points tend to fester, ignored and overlooked. If one point is given too much attention, the question arises of why it's tolerated in other places such as Saudi Arabia, or why other questions are overlooked, such as poverty, etc. Which causes a counter-effect.
There's a tragic limit to every cause, behind which it loses its oomph, its integrity starts dissipating and it becomes a misused and manipulated grotesque of its former self.
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bull****. what is there to be frightened of, when it comes to equality? that's projection, pure and simple. the u.s. wasn't afraid of having a woman president, or a black man, and yet, both of these groups claim oppression. you keep saying that men think they should have all the power, and i'm saying, you're full of ****. there are female leaders all over the world. sure, you have sexists, but their voices mean just as much as racists. which is to say, NOTHING. their voice becomes invalid, as soon as they state something racist or sexist. which is the issue i'm bringing up against feminism, regarding the posters here at HC who are backing it up. do you see how these ridiculous arguments are hurting your causes, people?
So much for your dealing with arguments with grace and dignity huh Fred. I'm full of s*** huh. Charming.
Yeah you don't get it at all. You see everything as some sort of conspiracy/plot to change everything you hold dear. Male bashing, so its okay to assume that because India had a female leader that India is now totally equal in regards to women's rights huh. Really. Wow.
Or that because the most powerful nation in the world voted for a black man means that blacks are now equal with whites?  You have your head in the clouds.
Its a waste of time trying to explain to you. You obviously cannot get it. That's no big loss, thousands still can't. Adrius is trying to explain to you how subtle oppression is. How it is part of our daily lives without us even noticing it. And we are all guilty of it, you, me, Adrius - everyone. Its not that we mean to do it either, we don't realize.
As a white woman, I have no concept of racism. I hear stories and experiences of friends and I get angry, but I haven't experienced them. I've never been turned away at the door because I am the 'wrong' color. Or the 'wrong' color and the 'wrong' sex. I have never been questioned in a store about how expensive an item is because I am white! However, I have witnessed my friend having that conversation. "Madam, does realize that this is over $1000", said condescendingly.
And while as a white woman in a western society I have little to complain about, does not mean for one moment I have forgotten other women's plight and fight for equality elsewhere. So feminism has a hell of a long way to go yet.
Plus for your information, feminism also joins causes with the anti-racist movement and many more. It is an equal rights movement, primarily focused on the equality of women in society but it does a lot more.
But as I am apparently 'full of s***' and I should only argue gracefully and femininely. I will leave it here with you. No point in my bashing my head against a brick wall especially from someone who talks about equality and being all for it, yet at the same time would deny rights regarding having children.
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Adrius said:
The position that draws the highest benefits from society at large is being white, male and heterosexual. Deviations are discriminated against. Men can choose to act accordingly even though they might not identify fully with that norm (male not simply being having a penis, but also the expected behaviors that we consider manly). Women can be white and heterosexual (which reaps benefits) but they cannot (at least as far as society at large is concerned) be male.
i really fail to see how the first sentence can be statistically correct, with the statistics in the picture on this webpage. yes, i know that wikipedia isn't the best source of information, and neither is the whole internet. anything can be tampered with/miscalculated/wrong on the internet.
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Who's ignoring what now? Yes, ignoring such issues would be stupid. Have not said otherwise.
you posted in response to the pic, "Mostly seen that shared in anti-feminism circles", and "Actually there's so much damn wrong with that pic I don't even know. Sigh". the picture was merely depicting the issue that males face, regarding their sex. what you said, implied directly that there was something wrong with that.
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I don't think you're a rascist but you do oppress racialized people by being white. This is out of your control, because it's less about what you do and more about society and its structures. You will be privileged by society for being white, at the expense of those who are not, just as you are for being male and not female.
bull****. i oppress nothing. what oppresses, are assumptions that i oppress, merely because i exist as a certain sexual or racial type of human. "the society and it's structures", is not the source, either. it is individuals who have issues with a certain race/sex/religion who oppress, or groups of similar like-minded individuals. i'm getting a pretty clear picture of feminism, by the way, in my communication with people who support it. i will never feel shame(or anything negative) for something beyond my control; and implying that i SHOULD, is just ridiculous to the point of insanity. the same goes for spreading feminism's apparent message. this is starting to sound like brainwashing horse****. you would better apply this forced belief system to a child(and i'm sure many do, just like all of the other things adults push on children).
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You can fight against it though, but the first step would be to actually admit that you are in a position of power at the expense of others.
again. i don't have a job. a position of power, is not what i have. i don't push people out of my way at the grocery store, and everyone waits in line the same as everyone else. to tell someone that they should admit to something that doesn't exist for them, is like a religious person telling an atheist that they should admit that god exists just because the religious person thinks it does(or confessing to a crime they didn't commit, say, like the inquisition?). btw, THAT'S what oppression looks like. just because you believe you are an oppressor(based on whatever bull**** you read or were told), does in no way mean that i should. you can be brainwashed as much as you want to be. me, i'll just be in favor of equality. that sounds much more reasonable and logical.
Adrius said:
I suggest reading up on male privilege and the patriarchy if you're truly interested. I don't know it well enough to explain it without using like 10 pages and all my free time.
the more i read what people who back feminism up think, the more i think i should avoid it like the plague. pushing someone to think something is wrong with them for existing, and merely because of a system of belief, seems a little cult-ish to me. and cults are for morons. no thanks. i'll just stick to believing in equality. i don't need a retarded guilt trip.
@ meroe: i'm done here. there is no point in continuing this conversation, because i do not believe as feminists believe, apparently.
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meroe
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Basically Smurfette
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posted July 17, 2014 06:32 PM |
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fred79 said:
pushing someone to think something is wrong with them for existing, and merely because of a system of belief, seems a little cult-ish to me.
And that sums up exactly what has happened to women and racial minorities over the centuries.
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Meroe is definetely out, sweet
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blink of an eye - Kipshasz
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fred79
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posted July 17, 2014 06:34 PM |
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so that makes it ok for feminists to do it? hey, why not push slavery, as well?
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