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Hotarubi
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posted September 17, 2014 10:51 PM |
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ChrisD1 said:
The turning point (when fury was winning and then dropped) was when that blasted fake post came out here saying that the devs want to make fury a humanoid faction. but it's too late now.
P.S. Stevie I'm sorry i abandoned our cause for the fury to win (meaning i don't post here the obvious again and again till someone understands, my vote still stands for fury), but the whole thing has become stressful and vexing and it will make me hate this forum and it's something i don't want.
in the end i need to say that some members here seemed ("seemed", not are, might be only me) almost hostile. they should know better since they exist here long enough.
again this poll is the worst and everyone would be less annoyed if ubisoft dropped the line up they wanted without tempting us and make us go on "crusades".
and if any smart@ss claims he didn't even sweat supporting his line up, acting all cool and indifferent, then i need to take a break for sure from all this
Hear, hear. The worst are the ones that attack the creature lineup's appearance for the sake of muddling Fury's image, even though it's clearly stated on the photos that the images aren't final. Yikes, what does one say to that?
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Storm-Giant
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
On the Other Side!
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posted September 17, 2014 11:14 PM |
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Stormcaller said:
Well, Dlc with no factions would make sense, but an expansion WITHOUT factions wouldn't make sense. Dlc would be essentially be just more maps, artifacts and so on.
So yeah, I'm not buying into that rule.
Why do you think an expansion could not feature a new faction? Hell, even in the shipwreck of H6 after BlackHole bankrupty they managed to squeeze through a faction (Dungeon).
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red_flag
Known Hero
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posted September 17, 2014 11:39 PM |
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Edited by red_flag at 23:39, 17 Sep 2014.
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alcibiades said:
Personally, I don't understand why they didn't make us choose the combination of units ourselves: Pick three cores units from a list of five, pick three elite units from a list of five, pick two champion units from a list of three. The units with most votes from each group get included, end of story. This would save us a lot of drama like people disliking a general line-up but wanting single units like the Unicorn in.
Fully agree on that.
Personally I expected that Ubi will say: Ok, here we have hunter in stone for core and next two units you may choose from dryad, pixie, snake, owl for example. For elite we have druid and emerald knight in stone and second one you can choose from treant, unicorn, deer. And finally two champions from treant, not flying dragon and not fire dangerous phoenix.
That around what I expected, but not that I must choose the lesser evil from three.
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CanWakhan
Hired Hero
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posted September 17, 2014 11:39 PM |
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Pawek_13 said:
CanWakhan said:
And with unicorns, somewhere(even "over the rainbow") 
I am 99% sure that Sylvan heroes will ride on unicorns. They are just horses with some kind of horn in the middle of their forehead, so making model of them shouldn't be difficult.
We had unicorns as mounts in H5 so you are probably very right about that though it's kind disappointing not to see them in action. Still my favourite unicorn is from H3 before upgrade. Simple but beautiful.
About voting thing everybody still talking...
It's actually probable that people switch votes in 10 hour period, although surprising that it happened so fast and in such number. In the other hand we don't know how many people really vote. I myself probably write about 10 comments under the poll and if everybody do so we have around 400 voters(it's definitely more but it's just example). Then divide it by percentage and you have 104 Fury, 140 Strength and the rest for Balance. So it's only a 36 votes of difference to switch Fury and Strength's place although in percentage that could look like huge change, but as I said it depends on actual number of people who voted. With 1000 of voters you have 260 for Fury then 350 for Strength. Switch 90 in favour of first option is possible, even fast one.
Kronos 1000 pointed out well that we don't have statistics.
Oh, and I hope for Fortress to show up at some point. Maybe in expansion if not in DL. It's a bit like words' game but I doubt they won't look for additional way to make some more money if game sell well.well.
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Raelag84
Famous Hero
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posted September 17, 2014 11:59 PM |
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Edited by Raelag84 at 00:04, 18 Sep 2014.
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Alex_Yakub said:
Raelag84 said:
Alex_Yakub said:
If statistics is anything to go by, it is impossible for an unpopular choise to get so, how to say, popular ...
Having a mass change in popularity is not like going faster than light. The laws of math and physics allows it, therefore it can happen, especially if there is a bunch of people who took a day to find out about it and come to a decision.
Besides if there was so much cheating for fury why is balance still wining?
Because cheating stopped, that's why. There is a limit to everything, including fake accounts 
Don't stick your tongue at me ever again.
Look. You can't prove any of this. I could just as easily argue that you are cheating, and that's why balance is ahead.
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cleglaw
Famous Hero
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posted September 18, 2014 12:07 AM |
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Edited by cleglaw at 00:08, 18 Sep 2014.
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ChrisD1 said:
The turning point (when fury was winning and then dropped) was when that blasted fake post came out here saying that the devs want to make fury a humanoid faction. but it's too late now.
P.S. Stevie I'm sorry i abandoned our cause for the fury to win (meaning i don't post here the obvious again and again till someone understands, my vote still stands for fury), but the whole thing has become stressful and vexing and it will make me hate this forum and it's something i don't want.
in the end i need to say that some members here seemed ("seemed", not are, might be only me) almost hostile. they should know better since they exist here long enough.
again this poll is the worst and everyone would be less annoyed if ubisoft dropped the line up they wanted without tempting us and make us go on "crusades".
and if any smart@ss claims he didn't even sweat supporting his line up, acting all cool and indifferent, then i need to take a break for sure from all this
yeah you know i want balance, but i m tired too. i dont want to fight over a vote. im done with it. its too stressfull. lets make a peace
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yogi
Promising
Famous Hero
of picnics
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posted September 18, 2014 01:03 AM |
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Edited by yogi at 01:06, 18 Sep 2014.
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AcidDragon said:
So yes, I'm all for hiding the voting results until the very end.
i tenth the motion 
Pawek_13 said:
I am 99% sure that Sylvan heroes will ride on unicorns.
^another good reason for the emerald knights to ride stags instead!
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted September 18, 2014 01:17 AM |
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Alex_Yakub
Famous Hero
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posted September 18, 2014 08:52 AM |
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Raelag84 said:
Alex_Yakub said:
Raelag84 said:
Alex_Yakub said:
If statistics is anything to go by, it is impossible for an unpopular choise to get so, how to say, popular ...
Having a mass change in popularity is not like going faster than light. The laws of math and physics allows it, therefore it can happen, especially if there is a bunch of people who took a day to find out about it and come to a decision.
Besides if there was so much cheating for fury why is balance still wining?
Because cheating stopped, that's why. There is a limit to everything, including fake accounts
Don't stick your tongue at me ever again.
Look. You can't prove any of this. I could just as easily argue that you are cheating, and that's why balance is ahead.
You can't proove they didn't cheat either.
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athas65
Known Hero
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posted September 18, 2014 09:33 AM |
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Edited by athas65 at 09:34, 18 Sep 2014.
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Alex_Yakub said:
You can't proove they didn't cheat either.
You are aware that what you just said is like coming to someone and telling him that he most have cheated during a test just because he can't prove he didn't, right?
The accuser is the one that need to prove his accusations, not the other way around...
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Alex_Yakub
Famous Hero
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posted September 18, 2014 09:36 AM |
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athas65 said:
Alex_Yakub said:
You can't proove they didn't cheat either.
You are aware that what you just said is like coming to someone and telling him that he most have cheated during a test just because he can't prove he didn't, right?
The accuser is the one that need to prove his accusations, not the other way around...
I already made my arguments, so...
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athas65
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posted September 18, 2014 10:25 AM |
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Edited by athas65 at 10:26, 18 Sep 2014.
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Alex_Yakub said:
athas65 said:
Alex_Yakub said:
You can't proove they didn't cheat either.
You are aware that what you just said is like coming to someone and telling him that he most have cheated during a test just because he can't prove he didn't, right?
The accuser is the one that need to prove his accusations, not the other way around...
I already made my arguments, so...
Which were mostly just your opinion that someone most be cheating because the lineup you don't like started winning.... with no real proof that anyone cheated.
The percentage went from ~37/36/27 to ~23/37/40, which mean it is more likely that people changed their votes from Strength to Fury and Balance, or that a lot of new votes went to both Fury and Balance. Because if all of a sudden a lot of new accounts happened to vote to Fury all at the same time (which would have happened if some one created tons of fake accounts in order to cheat the vote), the percentage of both Balance and Strength would have decreased, not just Strength's one.
While personally I don't mind which lineup will win, each having their own pros and cons, I think that keeping going on and on about how someone most be cheating just because you don't like their choice is pretty idiotic in my opinion, especially given it just a game....
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MattII
Legendary Hero
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posted September 18, 2014 10:32 AM |
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Could the site be hacked and a lot of votes changed?
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War-overlord
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Presidente of Isla del Tropico
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posted September 18, 2014 10:32 AM |
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athas65 said:
especially given it just a game....
Never say that on a fan-forum.
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DoubleDeck
Promising
Legendary Hero
Look into my eyes...
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posted September 18, 2014 01:10 PM |
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Elvin said:
Exactly, we can never know without an official response But much as info services' post might have been questionable, he had a good point. How can you tell if the post from an ip is made from a public pc or from a personal one? It could be a pc where someone is making multiple accounts or it could be a pc where multiple people have access to..
I doubt it's from a pc that multiple people use.
Solution:
Delete all votes from the same IP.
It's not like a bunch of people all go to their local internet cafe to put in their Heroes VII votes....
That way it will get rid of the person who voted too (who cheated).
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted September 18, 2014 01:36 PM |
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And erase valid votes from public IP's in the process.
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted September 18, 2014 01:40 PM |
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Edited by Galaad at 13:42, 18 Sep 2014.
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DoubleDeck said:
Solution:
Delete all votes from the same IP.
It's not like a bunch of people all go to their local internet cafe to put in their Heroes VII votes....
That way it will get rid of the person who voted too (who cheated).
Well I live with my brother and my niece, so there is three legit votes on the same IP here ! Plus any 15 year-old smartass kid can use proxies.
Unless we see like 20+ votes from same IP lol
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Brukernavn
Hero of Order
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posted September 18, 2014 01:43 PM |
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In a household you could have several valid votes cast from the same IP, so that's not automatically a good sooution. It could be a good idea to review specific cases where more than 3 votes are cast from the same IP by recently created accounts. If you're in the tens and hundreds something is probably not right. Cheaters could of course have used proxies or VPN, but then you're investing quite a lot in this...
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted September 18, 2014 01:45 PM |
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Edited by Galaad at 13:46, 18 Sep 2014.
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Brukernavn said:
but then you're investing quite a lot in this...
That's why I said "15yo kid"
Though of course there is very small odds
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Pawek_13
Supreme Hero
Maths, maths everywhere!
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posted September 18, 2014 04:07 PM |
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Aaah,please, stop! For the last few day all youu're doing is complaining about the possibility of cheating because Fury voters outnumbered the Balance voters! If number of Balance voters snowballed, you wouldn't say anything, just that people would have made good decision! You know what? You are biased! That's all. If the amount would truly be that great, something would be done by Ubisoft/Limbic, so please, change the topic, alright?
PS I vote for Strength.
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