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bitula
Known Hero
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posted October 09, 2015 11:39 AM |
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EnergyZ said:
Maurice said:
bitula said: Yeah I would think that the more schools the better and 7 is more than 4 (H5). This is the first time I read community complaining about something being more rather than less.
Sometimes "more" can be "too much" and dilute the pool too much.
Well I'd be fine with 7 spell schools if there were more factions, at least 4 more (in addition to 6 we already have).
For the spell skills affect only 8+ spells. H5, H4 and H3 had many more (over 12, by spell school).
Yes, I agree, there must be more content to make this sound. The amount of content currently is just too small to make it worth playing the game IMO.
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bitula
Known Hero
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posted October 09, 2015 11:55 AM |
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EnergyZ said:
bitula said: As far as I remember in H5 even pushing all difficulties to hardest I could reach tier 7 building on week 3. And tier 6 on week 2. And yes I didn’t like this default tavern, because let me decide if I want to hire a Hero or build something else first, like a tier 1 building. But this was not my point anyway, it was that how can someone find H7 boring because buildings cannot be rushed. From my point of view the opposite would have been boring.
Trust me, professional players do have to rush through recruitment buildings. It is a part of the strategy, whether playing against AI, and certainly in multiplayer.
An alternative would be just to raise the resource costs.
I know. I just don't like this game style. I think (or hope) there are lots of people like me who do not consider Homm games as “professional tactical game” like chess. This doesn’t make me casual player though.
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3lion
Known Hero
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posted October 09, 2015 12:24 PM |
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bitula said: how can someone find H7 boring because buildings cannot be rushed.
It can be rushed. You must hire a hero with Economy skill, earn lvl 4 with him (visit two stones of enlightenment or whateveryoucallit and couple of chests), and pick a perk for two buildings per day. Now you can build two building each day with discount of 20%. Simple.
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted October 09, 2015 12:32 PM |
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted October 09, 2015 12:35 PM |
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Dan, please explain.
gomaki said: As for your questions buddy, lots of this is stuff I can't even answer because i'm not a designer!
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bitula
Known Hero
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posted October 09, 2015 12:37 PM |
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3lion said:
bitula said: how can someone find H7 boring because buildings cannot be rushed.
It can be rushed. You must hire a hero with Economy skill, earn lvl 4 with him (visit two stones of enlightenment or whateveryoucallit and couple of chests), and pick a perk for two buildings per day. Now you can build two building each day with discount of 20%. Simple.
Sounds good!
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kiryu133
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
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posted October 09, 2015 12:39 PM |
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No micro transactions at least, right?
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gomaki
Shaper of Lore
Community Manager, Limbic Ent.
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posted October 09, 2015 12:44 PM |
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Stevie said: Dan, could you please ask Layn to check her HCM for me?
I'll try let her know, but she is out of office today. Chances are she'll check HC over weekend anyway.
Galaad said: Dan, please explain.
gomaki said: As for your questions buddy, lots of this is stuff I can't even answer because i'm not a designer!
Hey Galaad
I replied to you over at CH as well. Think it's just more semantics in title. I do a lot of stuff. But for that particular question I certainly wasn't involved in the design process. Right now though I'm all about that community.
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Petiknight
Adventuring Hero
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posted October 09, 2015 01:21 PM |
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gomaki said:
Stevie said: Dan, could you please ask Layn to check her HCM for me?
I'll try let her know, but she is out of office today. Chances are she'll check HC over weekend anyway.
Galaad said: Dan, please explain.
gomaki said: As for your questions buddy, lots of this is stuff I can't even answer because i'm not a designer!
Hey Galaad
I replied to you over at CH as well. Think it's just more semantics in title. I do a lot of stuff. But for that particular question I certainly wasn't involved in the design process. Right now though I'm all about that community.
Hi Dan,
thx for your post, you are really helpfull here. May can I ask will we receive some official communication about the coming patch, or about the current situation?
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted October 09, 2015 01:23 PM |
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gomaki said: I wont give you a date because i'm a gamer myself and know as soon as a dev does that it becomes written in stone by the community.
But it's really soon. And then there will be more after that.
Upcoming Patch (more information to come)
The team is currently working a first patch and we will keep you updated on our progress on this matter in the upcoming week. Our objective is to tackle on this update emergency topics such as:
That's the official Ubi stance.
Official Dan stance is really soon.
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The Young Traveler
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Petiknight
Adventuring Hero
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posted October 09, 2015 01:30 PM |
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Stevie said:
gomaki said: I wont give you a date because i'm a gamer myself and know as soon as a dev does that it becomes written in stone by the community.
But it's really soon. And then there will be more after that.
Upcoming Patch (more information to come)
The team is currently working a first patch and we will keep you updated on our progress on this matter in the upcoming week. Our objective is to tackle on this update emergency topics such as:
That's the official Ubi stance.
Official Dan stance is really soon.
Thx Steve. I just hoped to except more frequent communication updates, to calm down the furious fans, and not hurt even more the franchise.. Like dear Heroes maniacs, we made a huge progress, and we are still testing, so calm down bla bla bla or we sorry we f.... this up, but we will compensate you etc.
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gomaki
Shaper of Lore
Community Manager, Limbic Ent.
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posted October 09, 2015 02:14 PM |
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Petiknight said:
Stevie said:
gomaki said: I wont give you a date because i'm a gamer myself and know as soon as a dev does that it becomes written in stone by the community.
But it's really soon. And then there will be more after that.
Upcoming Patch (more information to come)
The team is currently working a first patch and we will keep you updated on our progress on this matter in the upcoming week. Our objective is to tackle on this update emergency topics such as:
That's the official Ubi stance.
Official Dan stance is really soon.
Thx Steve. I just hoped to except more frequent communication updates, to calm down the furious fans, and not hurt even more the franchise.. Like dear Heroes maniacs, we made a huge progress, and we are still testing, so calm down bla bla bla or we sorry we f.... this up, but we will compensate you etc.
There is going to be some more solid Patch information coming out very shortly (cos i wrote it). What can I tell you know though.
Patch is ETA early next week, though of course subject to change if some crazy wizard messes stuff up on weekend.
Well over 100 bugs/improvements in this first patch alone.
These cover crashes, campaign blockers, GUI issues, Multiplayer Out of syncs, Save/load issues with scripting and a lot of Loca issues.
This is just one of many post release support patches. The more the community provides me feedback, game logs and save games the more we can put into these patches as well.
Afraid I can't go into more detail than that, but you wont be in the dark for too long.
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3lion
Known Hero
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posted October 09, 2015 02:19 PM |
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gomaki said:
Well over 100 bugs/improvements in this first patch alone.
Sounds good... I guess.
Any plans on AI improvements? For me AI is the next topic after multiplayer desync.
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted October 09, 2015 02:24 PM |
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There was a time when quick-combat option didn't exist. It was later on implemented by fans only to avoid end game boring battles like you have let's say +3k Sharpshooters with Archangels and the threat is the weekly spawned 25 Griffins and happen to block your path for instance.
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verriker
Honorable
Legendary Hero
We don't need another 'eroes
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posted October 09, 2015 02:47 PM |
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well Paulini's promise there would be "hundreds of small improvements which will help to perfect the formula" comes true then, after all I guess he never said the formula he meant was a good one lol
gomaki please check your inbox for message from me, genuinely important clarification of something for you and Limbic
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gomaki
Shaper of Lore
Community Manager, Limbic Ent.
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posted October 09, 2015 02:59 PM |
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3lion said:
gomaki said:
Well over 100 bugs/improvements in this first patch alone.
Sounds good... I guess.
Any plans on AI improvements? For me AI is the next topic after multiplayer desync.
Ye. AI turn times have massively been reduced! In your current version it's something like 6-7sec per hero per turn. So when they buy up 5+ heroes it can start to build up. Now it's something around 6-7 secs for the whole turn. It's a huge increase.
Also the threat calculations have been tightened up a bit and the game gives ranged units a slightly higher value.
There's some more specifically for AI but off the top of my head this is what I can remember.
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Petiknight
Adventuring Hero
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posted October 09, 2015 03:04 PM |
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Galaad said: There was a time when quick-combat option didn't exist. It was later on implemented by fans only to avoid end game boring battles like you have let's say +3k Sharpshooters with Archangels and the threat is the weekly spawned 25 Griffins and happen to block your path for instance.
It would be also nice if Limbic could implement some quick combat options, in the case of enemy Hero fort attack. Sometimes its 5-10 min loss just to watch this stupid battle, which you will loose anyway... And the AI just runs with meele units before the walls, 'till the siege engine not brake it, and sometimes it takes too long 'till he kills your units with flyers or shooters. /I always run out with my units and press on defend just to make it faster, but it is a little bit annoying/
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted October 09, 2015 03:07 PM |
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I guess you're referring to Necro campaign when you are forced to play lost in advance battles?
My point was more related to AI, since a heroes player usually fights A LOT of neutrals early game and it HAS to be at least decent here.
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Petiknight
Adventuring Hero
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posted October 09, 2015 03:11 PM |
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Galaad said: I guess you're referring to Necro campaign when you are forced to play lost in advance battles?
My point was more related to AI, since a heroes player usually fights A LOT of neutrals early game and it HAS to be at least decent here.
No, I was refering on cases when the enemy attacks your main, and there are forts with few local guard units on his way. It was a suggestion, to reduce the waiting time, 'till the enemy finish your units, you are forced to fight, and there is no autobattle option. It can be on any map such situation, where are gates and forts located.
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3lion
Known Hero
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posted October 09, 2015 03:12 PM |
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Thanks for the info, gomaki. Can't wait to return to the game after the patch.
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