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Gryphs
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posted December 13, 2015 01:06 AM |
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I don't think it was for tabloids or phones though. 
I cannot find much on it though so I may never know. It must of been too successful to discuss, lol.
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frostymuaddib
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posted December 13, 2015 01:12 AM |
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Gryphs said:
I don't think it was for tabloids or phones though.
Mobile, browser, same bleep 
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Gryphs
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posted December 13, 2015 01:18 AM |
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Edited by Gryphs at 01:21, 13 Dec 2015.
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But the browser lacks the clicking (or tapping) you see. Can you not imagine the beauty of a Might and Magic app. Oh, yeah clicking on resource mines to collect stuff that is the future of this brand. It could be a multiplayer experience like Clash of Clans. Don't forget to buy extra rare resources if you run low, only $1.99 per pack.  ...
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3lion
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posted December 13, 2015 01:18 AM |
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frostymuaddib said:
I find it very hard to stay positive
You shouldn't.
All what you can do is not to buy bad product. Well, you still might want to give some advices to the devs but the truth is that the only argument the devs will hear and take into account is a financial reports. It's actually a miracle that gomaki is here with us. Talking to us. Listening us. And even change things. But he will not bring you a brand new shiny Heroes game on your finger snap. That why it is stupid to try to convince him or anyone of development team that their game is bad. Only financial report can tell it to them. And our arguments won't change a thing. So we better try to help fix THIS game (without dreaming of impossible) or we just stay away from this snow. Simple
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frostymuaddib
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posted December 13, 2015 01:35 AM |
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3lion said:
You shouldn't.
All what you can do is not to buy bad product.
That was the easiest thing
3lion said:
Well, you still might want to give some advices to the devs but the truth is that the only argument the devs will hear and take into account is a financial reports.
I cannot use financial report as argument for the supid AI, for example.
3lion said:
It's actually a miracle that gomaki is here with us. Talking to us. Listening us. And even change things.
Well, Ubibleep did say that they will develop MMH7 with the community, for the community (or whatever SC was/is), so I see this as a normal thing: someone who belongs to the devs is communicating with fans
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But he will not bring you a brand new shiny Heroes game on your finger snap.
Oh, I know that. I do not expect anything important to change with H7. But, there were many constructive comments, suggestions and ideas long before the so called release of the game. I mean, look at the size of this thread. But it was all ignored
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That why it is stupid to try to convince him or anyone of development team that their game is bad. Only financial report can tell it to them.
I would seriously question their intelligence if they fail to see that game is bad (bugs, anyone?). They are aware, but they won't come out and say: 'we bleeped up, game is a mess'. They will try to salvage the situation somehow, and I wouldn't expect anything else.
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And our arguments won't change a thing. So we better try to help fix THIS game (without dreaming of impossible) or we just stay away from this snow. Simple
Then how are we going to help, if our arguments won't change a thing? And I really dislike the idea that H7 should be fixed. It does not deserve that. (And I don't think that there is anything good in the game.) There was a great opportunity to develop decent Heroes game, but it failed fundamentally, and I don't see guys from Limbic responsible for that. It is the working of Spider cult.
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MoritzBradtke
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posted December 13, 2015 03:44 AM |
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just wondering, the building "traning area" says it will upgrade simple Units... however it even upgraded Champions, u still have to pay the ressources but is that intended?
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GenyaArikado
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posted December 13, 2015 07:32 AM |
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simple units = unupgraded units
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LukaOo
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posted December 13, 2015 02:00 PM |
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3lion said:
It's actually a miracle that gomaki is here with us.
Sometimes people believe that is miracle just because they do not know nature of phenomena. I would say why did he come into HC only now, when it became clear the game has failed? And I agree with Frosty that it is normal thing, in general case, to communicate with community.
3lion said:
That why it is stupid to try to convince him or anyone of development team that their game is bad. Only financial report can tell it to them. And our arguments won't change a thing.
But only not current case. There are many factors why game has failed, and only financial analysis can not answer: why the game was fail.
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3lion
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posted December 13, 2015 07:47 PM |
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LukaOo said:
There are many factors why game has failed
gomaki said:
Heroes 7 is by no means perfect.
As you can see, developers don't agree with you. Only FR can tell them if this game failed or not. Not you. Not me. No matter what argument you use.
Only when (if) they will discover that their product failed, they will ask the 'why' question. Not now. Not now...
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frostymuaddib
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posted December 13, 2015 07:51 PM |
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Verriker compiled a great post here that shows that here are many indicators that game failed
BTW, I'm still waiting for QP on that post
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3lion
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posted December 13, 2015 08:01 PM |
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Edited by 3lion at 20:01, 13 Dec 2015.
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frostymuaddib said:
Verriker compiled a great post here that shows that here are many indicators that game failed
It is not a proper argument.
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Antalyan
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posted December 13, 2015 08:13 PM |
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Gomaki's words probably were not chosen the best, as it made many of you angry. But I think je just wanted to say that they cannot do everything what our community wants. And what was said about the reviews and numbers: I think gomaki only wanted to say that these reviews don't reflect the final quality of the game. They just say: "the game's release was a disaster and we don't like the game now".
That is how I understood gomaki's words so I was surprised by these negative reactions then. But your interpretation can be of course right too.
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verriker
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posted December 13, 2015 08:39 PM |
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3LioN said:
You shouldn't.
All what you can do is not to buy bad product. Well, you still might want to give some advices to the devs but the truth is that the only argument the devs will hear and take into account is a financial reports. It's actually a miracle that gomaki is here with us. Talking to us. Listening us. And even change things. But he will not bring you a brand new shiny Heroes game on your finger snap. That why it is stupid to try to convince him or anyone of development team that their game is bad. Only financial report can tell it to them. And our arguments won't change a thing. So we better try to help fix THIS game (without dreaming of impossible) or we just stay away from this snow. Simple
3LioN said:
As you can see, developers don't agree with you. Only FR can tell them if this game failed or not. Not you. Not me. No matter what argument you use.
Only when (if) they will discover that their product failed, they will ask the 'why' question. Not now. Not now...
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It is not a proper argument.
I recommend a look at Jimquisition if you want a proper argument on how your specific, fatalistic view may be misguided mate, with respect what you've been saying above about honest criticism being meaningless is deeply pessimistic and, frankly, not true lol
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frostymuaddib
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posted December 13, 2015 09:01 PM |
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3lion said:
It is not a proper argument.
Okaaay... So, if Ubisnow declares MMH7 sales successful (and they can do that, and we won't be able to refute them), we should all consider MMH7 non-fail.
Somehow, that is not a proper argument for me. But, agree to disagree
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Gryphs
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posted December 13, 2015 09:08 PM |
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I think what he is trying to say is that if it is commercially successful Ubisoft will consider it a success and make more like it regardless what we think of it.
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frostymuaddib
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posted December 13, 2015 09:12 PM |
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Gryphs said:
I think what he is trying to say is that if it is commercially successful Ubisoft will consider it a success and make more like it regardless what we think of it.
That makes sense, but it only means that Ubifail fails to see the truth, and ignore other arguments. And that makes me even more angry at Ubi.
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3lion
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posted December 13, 2015 09:22 PM |
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verriker said:
I recommend a look at
It is not a first time when this video appears in this thread. But whining is not a solution in case of Might and Magic. It works only if you are a million of dissatisfied fans of Mass Effect 3 and the developer is BioWare who able to spare few hundreds of thousands dollars to remake endings of the game. Or if the developer is Blizzard who is able to flush out the Auction House from the Diablo 3.
In case of MM... well.. How many of us here whining? 7? Not 7 millions. Just 7. Plus additional 20 people from official MMH forum. No man is an island...
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Gryphs
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posted December 13, 2015 09:25 PM |
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3lion said:
In case of MM... well.. How many of us here whining? 7? Not 7 millions. Just 7. Plus additional 20 people from official MMH forum. No man is an island...
Aside from a few people the blog has virtually no satisfied customers also the steam reviews is quite a lot. M&M does not have the huge player base of Mass Effect so of course there are going to be less people.
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3lion
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posted December 13, 2015 09:27 PM |
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Gryphs said:
if it is commercially successful Ubisoft will consider it a success and make more like it regardless what we think of it.
Precisely! Just like it happened with H7 after successful H6.
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frostymuaddib
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posted December 13, 2015 09:30 PM |
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3lion said:
Gryphs said:
if it is commercially successful Ubisoft will consider it a success and make more like it regardless what we think of it.
Precisely! Just like it happened with H7 after successful H6.
And that is why we have to bomb them, all day and all of the night, with 'irrelevant' arguments, to open thier eyes.
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This MEGA THREAD is pages long: 
