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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted July 28, 2016 04:02 PM |
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Zeki said:
actually the adventure map is 1000% better than the finished thing, wish they had kept that
Much more readable yep...
verriker said:
I would really insist these 3D games are doing it wrong with the simplest things like size of trees and mountains, they are much, much too big, and if they stopped chasing this gritty detailed realism in favour of iconic, strategically meaningful depictions it would be a good shout for everyone lol
you know which game did it right? Civilization 5 lol
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cleglaw
Famous Hero
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posted July 28, 2016 04:18 PM |
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i agree with verriker here, smaller map elements in 3D could have worked way better. homm games acctually has a tabletop feeling in them, devs should be aware of that when they try to make a new homm game. realism isnt the only defining thing alone... i mean its welcome but it shouldnt be taken too far where it hurts the readability of map.
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red_flag
Known Hero
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posted July 28, 2016 05:43 PM |
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Hi heroes, some interesting finding: neutral Lizardman very similiar to an model from Heroes 5 resources:
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GenyaArikado
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
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posted July 28, 2016 06:06 PM |
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Elvin said:
I'm not leaving, I just won't be the one penalizing you when you feel like being an @ss.
I know, otherwise i wouldnt have even mentioned you before.
Stevie said:
The only one skipping logic here is the guy who doesn't understand how between two similar IPs (cthulhu and the faceless) a third (the H7 kraken) can resemble one more than the other. In case you've missed it, cthulhu has wings, the faceless do not and the kraken does not. But go on with your mental gymnastics, makes my day.
No, smarty, I'm not saying they dont look similar. All i'm saying is they drew from the source.
Aionb said:
GenyaArikado said:
I barely post here so yeah.
And I'm sure you will stick to these good habits.
So, let me quote you:
GenyaArikado said:
Good riddance
I'm a shining beacon of light in a world of tacky spiderpolis jokes. Concentrated lightbeams burn. Apply cold water to the burned area and deal with it
Galaad said:
Much more readable yep...
Agreed. It was ok for the most part above ground but underground it was quite annoying.
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Gryphs
Supreme Hero
The Clever Title
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posted July 28, 2016 06:17 PM |
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GenyaArikado said:
The funiest thing is that in the truest HoMM spirit, for the most part when Ashan actually rips off, it does from a tabletop game; Warhammer, not from Warcraft
Or insert popular book/tv show here for all its unoriginal story needs.
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Datapack
Famous Hero
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posted July 28, 2016 06:20 PM |
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Macron1
Supreme Hero
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posted July 28, 2016 06:21 PM |
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Dwarf Fortress townscreen architecture reminds Necropolis, but with green replaced by reddish colors:-)
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GenyaArikado
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
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posted July 28, 2016 06:32 PM |
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Datapack said:
Reminds me a bit of Invoker (Sound warning)
Yes. I miss...hmm...war-overlord was his name iirc. He was another one too.
Gryphs said:
GenyaArikado said:
The funiest thing is that in the truest HoMM spirit, for the most part when Ashan actually rips off, it does from a tabletop game; Warhammer, not from Warcraft
Or insert popular book/tv show here for all its unoriginal story needs.
If you're referencing GoT/ASoFaI, i dont really see the similarity, beyond having morally grey people....like real life does y'know. Oh and making Thomas Wolf look a lot like Jon Snow actor too. I feel like he was supposed to be part of H6 xpacks going by his portrait style.
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted July 28, 2016 07:17 PM |
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted July 28, 2016 07:35 PM |
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Stevie said:
GenyaArikado said:
Yes. I miss...hmm...war-overlord was his name iirc. He was another one too.
We all made sure he'd never come back.
I don't sign that, despite differences War-overlord was a scholarly member and that is respectable, too bad he decided to suck it up to Ubi and leave the community as he couldn't agree with.
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted July 28, 2016 07:55 PM |
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I'd know, I had a personal conversation with him. My assessment was that he believed holding any position was equally valid, which is nonsense, and he resented the scrutiny as an impediment to free thought. I hope he's happy now with his 100€ CE pre-purchase.
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Guide to a Great Heroes Game
The Young Traveler
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Gryphs
Supreme Hero
The Clever Title
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posted July 28, 2016 07:59 PM |
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GenyaArikado said:
If you're referencing GoT/ASoFaI, i dont really see the similarity, beyond having morally grey people....like real life does y'know. Oh and making Thomas Wolf look a lot like Jon Snow actor too. I feel like he was supposed to be part of H6 xpacks going by his portrait style.
That and most of H6's characters and story. Erwin himself admitted in the fan interview that he will rip-off popular works to keep Ashan "current".
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GenyaArikado
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
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posted July 28, 2016 08:18 PM |
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Stevie said:
I'd know, I had a personal conversation with him. My assessment was that he believed holding any position was equally valid, which is nonsense, and he resented the scrutiny as an impediment to free thought. I hope he's happy now with his 100€ CE pre-purchase.
Ralph proving my point. Thank you, you make it easier.
Gryphs said:
That and most of H6's characters and story. Erwin himself admitted in the fan interview that he will rip-off popular works to keep Ashan "current".
Can you elaborate please? I could see some Sansa (marriage against her will to a monster) in Irina and some Arya in Anastasya (joining weirdo cult-thing) but...that's pretty much it for me.
Grey characters popularity rising for GoT is one thing but i wouldnt say that's a GoT ripoff. I mean...that's how normal people is in real life lol
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Gryphs
Supreme Hero
The Clever Title
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posted July 28, 2016 08:48 PM |
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Edited by Gryphs at 20:50, 28 Jul 2016.
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Sandor the snow bast@rd(Lol) who just does not fit in.
Dad dies in the capital.
Focus is on a a family that contains mostly characters blatantly based on the Stark children.
All duchies just so happen to have house words.
Coincidentally, so do all nations.
You already mentioned the similarities between the daughters.
I am not saying everything is a rip-off or that using grey characters is only a GoT thing, but there is a difference between borrowing good ideas and taking another work and editing it.
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GenyaArikado
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
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posted July 28, 2016 09:24 PM |
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Fair enough. Wouldnt call it a ripoff though because by that logic H1-2 are a Cain and Abel ripoff and H3s ripoff of every work with a demon invasion. Their backstories were definitely inspired by the Starks but their actual storylines during the campaign and after are quite diferent.
However the rest (father figure death setting the plot in motion, mottos) is pretty standard fantasy stuff though.
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AnkVaati
Famous Hero
Nighonese National Front
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posted July 28, 2016 09:45 PM |
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Gryphs said:
GenyaArikado said:
If you're referencing GoT/ASoFaI, i dont really see the similarity, beyond having morally grey people....like real life does y'know. Oh and making Thomas Wolf look a lot like Jon Snow actor too. I feel like he was supposed to be part of H6 xpacks going by his portrait style.
That and most of H6's characters and story. Erwin himself admitted in the fan interview that he will rip-off popular works to keep Ashan "current".
Yeah. I've googled it to no avail but yes, I also remember that the H6 producers explicitly stated that their story would be inspired by GoT.
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Ank's Old School (kinda) H8 proposal <- best thing evvah, trust me
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verriker
Honorable
Legendary Hero
We don't need another 'eroes
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posted July 28, 2016 09:59 PM |
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AnkVaati said:
Yeah. I've googled it to no avail but yes, I also remember that the H6 producers explicitly stated that their story would be inspired by GoT.
for sure man, you can check that out in Erwin's puffery pieces here and here lol
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AnkVaati
Famous Hero
Nighonese National Front
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posted July 28, 2016 10:05 PM |
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verriker said:
AnkVaati said:
Yeah. I've googled it to no avail but yes, I also remember that the H6 producers explicitly stated that their story would be inspired by GoT.
for sure man, you can check that out in Erwin's puffery pieces here and here lol
Thanks a lot! There it was:
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In treatment and tone, it is thus quite close to A Song of Ice & Fire (the Fantasy series by George RR Martin)
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Ubisoft representatives even went so far as to say that the game’s story would have more in common with something like the Song of Ice and Fire series of books.
You failed Erwin. Like always, you failed.
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Ank's Old School (kinda) H8 proposal <- best thing evvah, trust me
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted July 28, 2016 10:17 PM |
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Edited by Stevie at 22:18, 28 Jul 2016.
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GenyaArikado
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
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posted July 28, 2016 10:20 PM |
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AnkVaati said:
You failed Erwin. Like always, you failed.
well, no. The full quote is
Members of Ubisoft demoing the game said that the story won’t follow the typical fantasy outline of a young boy who sees his family killed and takes up arms against those responsible. Rather, Might & Magic VI’s story will be a bit more complex than that, revolving around five brothers and sisters who chose very different paths in life that will ultimately be reflected in how their individual campaigns pan out. Ubisoft representatives even went so far as to say that the game’s story would have more in common with something like the Song of Ice and Fire series of books.
In that they did succeed.
In treatment and tone, it is thus quite close to A Song of Ice & Fire (the Fantasy series by George RR Martin), Rome (the HBO series), The Tudors (the Showtime series), Dune (the Space Opera series by Frank Herbert), but also to the “classic” Shakespearean tragedies like Hamlet, King Lear, Macbeth.
this is also accurate (not as good as any of the examples above though ofc) So yeah, they're definitely inspired. Not a ripoff though. Like, GRRM drew heavily on the War of Roses, does that make his story a ripoff too?
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