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Sir_Godspeed
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posted January 26, 2015 11:31 PM |
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LizardWarrior said:
I will also keep my affirmations that the h6 concepts are bad. Also, could you answer me why did they chose to stick with them even tough most people criticized them (the h6 lich especially)?
I believe the official version is that aside from vocal online communities, most people liked those creatures. A statement that caused some friction in this thread.
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verriker
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posted January 26, 2015 11:32 PM |
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Edited by verriker at 23:32, 26 Jan 2015.
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Dave_Jame said:
they just copied everything else. Including stats, abilities and costs of units; spell and hero icons; and most core mechanics except the magic system...
guess you don't fix what's not broken
pity that pretty much everything in Heroes 6 was lol
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LizardWarrior
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posted January 26, 2015 11:32 PM |
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And who gives feedback on creatures design's except the online communities?
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Dave_Jame
Promising
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I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
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posted January 26, 2015 11:35 PM |
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LizardWarrior said:
I will also keep my affirmations that the h6 concepts are bad. Also, could you answer me why did they chose to stick with them even tough most people criticized them (the h6 lich especially)?
Lizard can you clarify to me if you dislike the H6 approach to design in general or is it the case of Necropolis only?
And if it is the former, Is there no exception? A unit, or design, that did appeal to you, not even a single one?
I just want to know to get a better idea about your opinions.
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verriker
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posted January 26, 2015 11:39 PM |
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Edited by verriker at 23:39, 26 Jan 2015.
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LizardWarrior said:
And who gives feedback on creatures design's except the online communities?
some say 95% of all feedback comes from shadow communities, mysterious surveys and dark planes of pure feedback whose contents you will never see, and that yours is but a meaningless drop in the Great Sea of Feedback
some also say 99% of all statistics are made up on the spot just to silence critics lol
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Stormcaller
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posted January 26, 2015 11:40 PM |
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Sea elf pirate huh..... Not sure what to think about it. I don't mind the fact she's showing her stuff. She's a pirate and they're quite a wild bunch. I'd say her appearance is fitting.
On the other hand, if she were a tad " uglier " she could almost fit in with the Orcs. Was somehow reminded of non-upgraded shaman unit when i saw her.
I hope we get mummies as neutrals, maybe sirens, basilisks ( if they're not in stronghold's line up )
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Dave_Jame
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posted January 26, 2015 11:40 PM |
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verriker said:
guess you don't fix what's not broken
pity that pretty much everything in Heroes 6 was lol
I wouldn't everything. Most of it yes, especially the core mechanics were!!! I myself blame them alone for the games ugly mark in history. but some unit designs and music was very nice.
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Stevie
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posted January 26, 2015 11:42 PM |
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted January 26, 2015 11:42 PM |
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I am sorry but officially stating these Lich and Vampire models are the one that always represented Necropolis is a lie.
It is like saying: “from now on, the Necropolis you all love is forever buried as the one from the last installment is now considered as the first one. And you have to give it a chance, look a few people like it.”
I truly am sorry if I hurted some of the developers feelings by taking part (and even added fuel to the fire) to the spamming fest in the comment sections but this is a reaction from someone so sad he totally looses control. I didn’t really encountered any disagreements though, a few people requested me to be banned, but I never gathered more upvotes on the website than by spamming this particular blog entry.
I have a hard time to understand the MMH7 Team position regarding Necropolis.
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Stormcaller
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posted January 26, 2015 11:44 PM |
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In my opinion, it's not worth losing it cause of a single faction. There are others, simply ignore Necropolis if it's not up to your taste ( I know I will ).
We are still yet to see Stronghold. And models for Sylvan and Dungeon.
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Sir_Godspeed
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posted January 26, 2015 11:44 PM |
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Stormcaller said:
Sea elf pirate huh..... Not sure what to think about it. I don't mind the fact she's showing her stuff. She's a pirate and they're quite a wild bunch. I'd say her appearance is fitting.
On the other hand, if she were a tad " uglier " she could almost fit in with the Orcs. Was somehow reminded of non-upgraded shaman unit when i saw her.
I hope we get mummies as neutrals, maybe sirens, basilisks ( if they're not in stronghold's line up )
The sexual dimorphism of orcs is a bit odd, or at least from the concept art I've seen. It's not that it's impossible, just that it reeks of pandering.
The Sea Elf looks all right. The exposed bellybutton and "shirt-bra" are a bit odd, but in the end, this is 1) an elf, and even their males can be quite fond of showing off their bodies 2) a sailor in what appears to be Caribbean-styled waters, and this in warmer water, and 3) a pirate and thus possibly someone who enjoys being ostentatious. When contrasted with the Haven females (the Justicar and Heroes), they both seem reasonably fitting for the context they're in.
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posted January 26, 2015 11:45 PM |
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What is so bad about Lamasu? People want new units and when they get one they want something old and familiar... dear lord
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verriker
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We don't need another 'eroes
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posted January 26, 2015 11:45 PM |
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Dave_Jame said:
and music was very nice.
I agree, the music reused from none other than Heroes 2 (among other games) certainly was good, lmao
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Zombi_Wizzard
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posted January 26, 2015 11:46 PM |
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Altho I disagree with Stevie on what is tasteless, I agree with him on that there's not much excuse on copy-pasting assests from previous game and sticking diferent number on it.
Here is what I wanna ask Marzhin:
Is budget for H7 realy this low?
When it was, that it became a commonly accepted business practice that developers just reuse things from previous game and then charge full price for it as if it were diferent title?
Don't anyone at the development consider that maybe ... when game is released and gets reviewed by popular gaming sites, it will recieve critics because of that, and people, even those that do not play HoMM will attack Ubi on basis of corporate greed (sorry by my lack of english prevents me from expresing this point gently)?
I mean what is the justification and reasoning behind this, because i do not see one.
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Gryphs
Supreme Hero
The Clever Title
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posted January 26, 2015 11:46 PM |
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Minion said:
What is so bad about Lamasu? People want new units and when they get one they want something old and familiar... dear lord
I believe what people want is balance inclusion of a new creature often involves throwing out an old favourite which causes this dilemma.
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Stormcaller
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posted January 26, 2015 11:47 PM |
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Lamasu is the worst unit I've seen in years. It's a manticore remodel with boring abilities. It doesn't really helps it's a sphynx either.
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LizardWarrior
Honorable
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the reckoning is at hand
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posted January 26, 2015 11:47 PM |
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Quote:
Lizard can you clarify to me if you dislike the H6 approach to design in general or is it the case of Necropolis only?
And if it is the former, Is there no exception? A unit, or design, that did appeal to you, not even a single one?
I just want to know to get a better idea about your opinions.
Sanctuary was rather cool, except the spirits were too similar and IMO the kappa design is exaggerated. The meso-american theme of the orcs wasn't bad either, but the units weren't that great, the Dungeon was nice, but the purple was over-done 
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cleglaw
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posted January 26, 2015 11:48 PM |
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@Marzhin
Ashan-liches, Ashan-vampires... why they cant change? i mean we are moving on to h5 timeline anyways, there was skeletal liches there. is it really impossible to fit skeletal lich in lore? or so to say, is it really difficult to fit lore with the lich-type we want?
also i wonder why its such a big deal to rework, even only reworking the head part(by Minastir) made some serious atmosphere change. it shouldnt be that much hard 
huh... weird. anyway...
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Zombi_Wizzard
Famous Hero
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posted January 26, 2015 11:49 PM |
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Stormcaller said:
Lamasu is the worst unit I've seen in years. It's a manticore remodel with boring abilities. It doesn't really helps it's a sphynx either.
It is not Manticore, nor is it a Sphynx ... It's Lamassu
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Stevie
Responsible
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posted January 26, 2015 11:50 PM |
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Zombi_Wizzard said:
Stormcaller said:
Lamasu is the worst unit I've seen in years. It's a manticore remodel with boring abilities. It doesn't really helps it's a sphynx either.
It is not Manticore, nor is it a Sphynx ... It's Lamassu
Do you know the lore behind them?
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