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War-overlord
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Undefeatable Hero
Presidente of Isla del Tropico
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posted February 14, 2015 11:54 AM |
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Galaad said:
I challenge anyone to gain a QP by defending the Spider-cult.
How can it be good for a City of Dead, how can such a concept be worth scrapping the pre-H6 Necropolis?
My way or the Highway?
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted February 14, 2015 11:55 AM |
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War-overlord said:
My way or the Highway?
What do you mean?
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted February 14, 2015 11:56 AM |
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Galaad said:
I challenge anyone to gain a QP by defending the Spider-cult.
How can it be good for a City of Dead, how can such a concept be worth scrapping the pre-H6 Necropolis?
I bet I could but I don't think I'd believe a word of it 
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted February 14, 2015 11:57 AM |
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Elvin said:
I bet I could but I don't think I'd believe a word of it
Oh, sophism is forbidden of course!
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War-overlord
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Presidente of Isla del Tropico
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posted February 14, 2015 12:02 PM |
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Galaad said:
War-overlord said:
My way or the Highway?
What do you mean?
Essentially: This, or no Necropolis for you, mister.
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kiryu133
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Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
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posted February 14, 2015 12:07 PM |
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Pawek_13 said:
Well, it seems that even after death the all-mighty power of erection can't be overcome...
i think the word you're looking for is "boners".
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted February 14, 2015 12:11 PM |
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War-overlord said:
Essentially: This, or no Necropolis for you, mister.
Do what you think is right is all I can say.
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War-overlord
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Presidente of Isla del Tropico
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posted February 14, 2015 12:13 PM |
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Galaad said:
Do what you think is right is all I can say.
If you don't want to learn to live with this and hate Necropolis for years to come, be my guest. But I'm not going to let this ruin my enjoyment.
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted February 14, 2015 12:21 PM |
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Edited by Galaad at 12:24, 14 Feb 2015.
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War-overlord said:
If you don't want to learn to live with this and hate Necropolis for years to come, be my guest. But I'm not going to let this ruin my enjoyment.
Marzhin said:
H7 takes place around the time when the Spider Cult was at its strongest, which explains why it's much less prominent in H6 (it was only beginning) and in H5 (after the War of the Broken Staff, the unity of the Spider Cult was broken and each Deathlord went to carve his/her own little dominion in Heresh). At least Spider haters can take comfort in the fact that after H7 we'll *probably* never see a Necropolis with such a strong spider theme ever again 
So I still believe after H7 there is hope for Necropolis (but maybe I am too naive).
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War-overlord
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Presidente of Isla del Tropico
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posted February 14, 2015 12:29 PM |
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Galaad said:
Marzhin said:
H7 takes place around the time when the Spider Cult was at its strongest, which explains why it's much less prominent in H6 (it was only beginning) and in H5 (after the War of the Broken Staff, the unity of the Spider Cult was broken and each Deathlord went to carve his/her own little dominion in Heresh). At least Spider haters can take comfort in the fact that after H7 we'll *probably* never see a Necropolis with such a strong spider theme ever again
So I still believe after H7 there is hope for Necropolis (but maybe I am too naive).
That may be the case and I am aware of this, but less Spider-themed, isn't Not Spider-themed. On top of that, when do you think we'll get a Heroes 8, Hmmm? 2018 perhaps? You'd still have 3 years of hating Necro ahead of you.
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Sandro400
Promising
Supreme Hero
Shadow of Death
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posted February 14, 2015 12:33 PM |
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Galaad said:
Oh, sophism is forbidden of course!
This is unfair...
Regarding Necropolis, just look at Al-Betyl. It is so much better than current Necro MOscreen for example, even if its just a huge pyramid. This combination of black stone, green mist and blood. And architectural style ofc. But those fanatics...
I bet the Holy Inquisition of Iseballa and Ferdinand weren't so fanatical as those cultists.
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted February 14, 2015 12:36 PM |
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Edited by Galaad at 12:39, 14 Feb 2015.
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War-overlord said:
You'd still have 3 years of hating Necro ahead of you.
I am very well aware of that, but as many knows, I consider pure heresy many things ever since Ubisoft rebooted the franchise. I am also convinced the Spider-cult cannot be genuinely defended. We are not speaking about one unit or two here (cf Unicorn, Manticore ie), but about a whole theme altering a whole Town.
Sandro400 said:
This is unfair...
Why would it be unfair? Do you really think what Ashan is doing to the HOMM universe is "fair"?
Also, I won't be convinced by story-telling alone.
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War-overlord
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Undefeatable Hero
Presidente of Isla del Tropico
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posted February 14, 2015 12:39 PM |
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Happy hating.
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Pawek_13
Supreme Hero
Maths, maths everywhere!
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posted February 14, 2015 12:40 PM |
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kiryu133 said:
Pawek_13 said:
Well, it seems that even after death the all-mighty power of erection can't be overcome...
i think the word you're looking for is "boners".
Hush... I wanted to sound more sophisticated. 
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Sandro400
Promising
Supreme Hero
Shadow of Death
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posted February 14, 2015 12:41 PM |
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Galaad said:
I am very well aware of that, but as many knows, I consider pure heresy many things ever since Ubisoft rebooted the franchise. I am also convinced the Spider-cult cannot be genuinely defended. We are not speaking about one unit or two here (cf Unicorn, Manticore ie), but about a whole theme altering a whole Town.
Hm, are you talking about Spider-theme itself or the way it was incorporated? If you complain about how overdecorative everything is, then I've nothing to say. Yes, that's usual for fanatics to carve their symbol everywhere, kinda realistic, but the way that's done with Necro is over the top.
But I'm not against the Spider-theme itself. Not a big fan as well, though.
P.S.: you challenge people to get a QP for defending SpiderTown, their personal opinion shouldn't matter Btw, happy hating ^^
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted February 14, 2015 12:45 PM |
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Sandro400 said:
Hm, are you talking about Spider-theme itself or the way it was incorporated?
Both. I am against the concept as a whole: first the only relevance I see with Undead is Walt Disney worthy, and second, I believe when one has a concept, all is tied, many elements will form a whole, and I see the visuals as a direct consequence of main conception. In brief, if something looks ridiculous, I think is because the reflexion behind it is just as much.
PS: I'm not looking for any hate here, I just want to hear arguments.
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Sandro400
Promising
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Shadow of Death
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posted February 14, 2015 12:50 PM |
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Galaad said:
and I see the visuals as a direct consequence of main conception.
Pardon me, but overdecorative visuals are not a result of main conception, Spider theme (any theme actually) can be done differently, we both know it
I won't debate about the concept though. It's your personal opinion that should be respected.
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Avirosb
Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
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posted February 14, 2015 12:52 PM |
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War-overlord said:
Thirdly, once they become Vampires, their eternal youth makes them vain. This could well be an expression of that vanity.
That would explain the lack of hair.
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted February 14, 2015 12:53 PM |
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Sandro400 said:
Spider theme (any theme actually) can be done differently, we both know it
Well this is true.
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Pawek_13
Supreme Hero
Maths, maths everywhere!
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posted February 14, 2015 01:03 PM |
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War-overlord said:
Pawek_13 said:
I do not question it. In fact, I have nothing against but aren't Necromancers (except Anastasya) against sexual relationships? This picture suggests something different.
It is generaly frowned upon by members of the Spidercult, yes.
No wonder why. They are still, after all, undead and sex with undead is, after all, a prime example of necrophilia and this is considered to be a mental disease. Just think about it. 
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