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Stevie
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Undefeatable Hero
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posted August 30, 2014 11:20 PM |
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A lore thread perhaps. Full of.. Ubi lore..
Nightmares. NIGHTMARES I TELL YOU!!
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lokdron
Famous Hero
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posted August 30, 2014 11:24 PM |
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Stevie said:
A lore thread perhaps. Full of.. Ubi lore..
Nightmares. NIGHTMARES I TELL YOU!!
I gotta say I personally find the whole lore discussion quite interesting.
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Dave_Jame
Promising
Legendary Hero
I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
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posted August 30, 2014 11:45 PM |
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I think most people just get lost in the Ubi Lore with all it's common features, that they can't see the interesting parts.
Like the Orc clans, Void Cult, Civil war in the Lotus Empire etc.
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I'm just a Mirror of your self.
We see, we look, we gather, we store, we teach.
We are many, and you can be one of us.
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Avonu
Responsible
Supreme Hero
Embracing light and darkness
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posted August 31, 2014 07:35 AM |
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Dave_Jame said:
Civil war in the Lotus Empire
In Lotus Empire? Well, there was one after H6 and before H5, but we don't know any details about it.
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"When someone desires information, they come to me."
"Details are everything."
Pipiru piru piru pipiru pi!
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ChrisD1
Supreme Hero
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posted August 31, 2014 01:10 PM |
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Avonu said:
Dave_Jame said:
Civil war in the Lotus Empire
In Lotus Empire? Well, there was one after H6 and before H5, but we don't know any details about it.
i'd buy an expansion featuring sanctuary and having the chance to learn more about their story. that way sanctuary would make its place in ashan more firm.
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Alex_Yakub
Famous Hero
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posted August 31, 2014 07:12 PM |
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ChrisD1 said:
Avonu said:
Dave_Jame said:
Civil war in the Lotus Empire
In Lotus Empire? Well, there was one after H6 and before H5, but we don't know any details about it.
i'd buy an expansion featuring sanctuary and having the chance to learn more about their story. that way sanctuary would make its place in ashan more firm.
+1000
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted August 31, 2014 07:16 PM |
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I also want to know more about the sovereign's rise to power and what became of the 6 overlords. Other than haven and a limited look at fortress and necro, we don't know much about the factions' internal affairs.
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H5 is still alive and kicking, join us in the Duel Map discord server!
Map also hosted on Moddb
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted August 31, 2014 07:24 PM |
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This might sound odd, but I'm already bored to tears by the campaign direction of Heroes 7 and the game's not even done yet. Just the fact that I know it revolves around Haven again... *yawn* makes me... sooo..... zZzZzZzZzZzZzZzZzZzZzZ.................
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted August 31, 2014 08:14 PM |
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Even if haven campaign is 1/6 of the missions? I see no difference compared to before except there is more freedom on the timeline of other factions. Which is a good thing in my eyes.
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H5 is still alive and kicking, join us in the Duel Map discord server!
Map also hosted on Moddb
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lokdron
Famous Hero
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posted August 31, 2014 08:17 PM |
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Elvin said:
I also want to know more about the sovereign's rise to power and what became of the 6 overlords. Other than haven and a limited look at fortress and necro, we don't know much about the factions' internal affairs.
Same here, I was kinda surprised in H6 after playing dark messiah and H5 that Kha Beleth is tears. Well considering how he turned inferno into a nation so to speak I am not surprised.
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Wellplay
Famous Hero
Poland Stronk
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posted August 31, 2014 08:28 PM |
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There is 7 campaigns for 6 factions and epilogue so haven is in 2/7 campaigns
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Storm-Giant
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
On the Other Side!
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posted August 31, 2014 08:47 PM |
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It's true the campaign is yet again around the Haven empire, it's getting nearly as repetitive as Eclipses  . But from how they spoke about the campaigns so far, it looks like the non-haven campaigns could be not related to Haven empire, so it won't be only about the Haven empire.
With that said, I really hope the expansion focus somwehere else (or they pull something like H3 AB, with many, non-related campaigns focused on several factions).
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted August 31, 2014 09:00 PM |
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Elvin said:
Even if haven campaign is 1/6 of the missions? I see no difference compared to before except there is more freedom on the timeline of other factions. Which is a good thing in my eyes.
Yea right. It's like a metaplot, Elvis. The story with all it's branches and everything. And this time we got Haven at its core. AGAIN! We didn't had enough with the 5 kids from hell, we needed a civil war too. And we have convenient advisors from almost each other factions, coming to tell Ivan tales about their lives. And I'm supposed to play that. ARE YOU JOKING ME. What happened to convincing individual storylines for each faction? Where did that go? I only get Haven this and Haven that? My God, the demons are coming - save Haven! Holy snow, Haven civil war! JUST GREAT! Other foreign interaction is impossible if there's no Haven. snow it.
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Danny
Famous Hero
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posted August 31, 2014 09:09 PM |
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Stevie said:
What happened to convincing individual storylines for each faction?
Not counting expansions, didn't that only happen in Heroes IV? And in that game basically all campaigns ended up in the exact same route as in the factions killing their own kind. Not exactly a perfect example for decent storytelling either. Heroes V had the "we have to involve every single faction in the storyline because Warcraft 3 did that" so hopefully Heroes VII won't be as forced.
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Avonu
Responsible
Supreme Hero
Embracing light and darkness
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posted August 31, 2014 09:10 PM |
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Edited by Avonu at 21:11, 31 Aug 2014.
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Stevie said:
What happened to convincing individual storylines for each faction? Where did that go
Stevie said:
And we have convenient advisors from almost each other factions, coming to tell Ivan tales about their lives.
You answered your own question.
And not story of their lives but story of their factions great heroes, so maybe you will get a story about for example Wizard vs Necro war. Who knows?
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"When someone desires information, they come to me."
"Details are everything."
Pipiru piru piru pipiru pi!
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Dave_Jame
Promising
Legendary Hero
I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
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posted August 31, 2014 09:11 PM |
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This is how how I imagine the Campaign:
The shadow council sit at their table, and one after another each member starts to speak:
Oh listen Ivan, I have this story of my people form times /not so far away/ancient/long gone/ that could be of some help to you. Cut, enter the first map of that particular campaign.
Orcs telling story of how strength can hold a nation together even in the hardest of times.
Mage speaking about rivalry and understanding, how different parts of a nation must co-exist in order for the nation to flourish.
Etc,
Then Ivan stands up "Thank you all for your motivating words, I shall use your wisdom in my battle", and the final campaign begins, as he faces his rival Seamus for the crown.
This would make me happy. More or less individual stories used as a framework for the final picture,rather then as individual colores of paint in it.
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I'm just a Mirror of your self.
We see, we look, we gather, we store, we teach.
We are many, and you can be one of us.
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted August 31, 2014 09:18 PM |
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@Avonu, I am talking about Metaplot. It's still "everything converges into saving Haven" scenario all over again.
@Dave, How would that make you happy?! It's the same old same old as in Heroes 6! Not to mention that you already seem to know the plot, and so does everyone else.
Oh dear.. God help Ubisoft..
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Wellplay
Famous Hero
Poland Stronk
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posted August 31, 2014 09:40 PM |
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Can't wait to see how Griffin Eternal! come to life boys & girls 
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ChrisD1
Supreme Hero
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posted August 31, 2014 10:18 PM |
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Edited by ChrisD1 at 22:23, 31 Aug 2014.
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Stevie said:
@Dave, How would that make you happy?! It's the same old same old as in Heroes 6! Not to mention that you already seem to know the plot, and so does everyone else.
Oh dear.. God help Ubisoft..
heroes 6 was not about that. heroes 6 was how each faction (with a griffin brat as a leader) fared until the big battle with the faceless or smth. if it wasn't for the haven family i would like it more.
h7 is going to be a story about a faction away from haven. of course in the end yes the haven guy is in the centre.
btw what's with the russian names and the whole eastern europe vibe about haven? since putin happened i don't think that's very wise to go "russian" and it kinda paints haven with a bad color in my eyes :/
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alex_yakub
Famous Hero
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posted August 31, 2014 10:22 PM |
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ChrisD1 said:
heroes 6 was not about that. heroes 6 was how each faction (with a griffin brat as a leader) fared until the big battle with the faceless or smth. if it wasn't for the haven family i would like it more.
h7 is going to be a story about a faction away from haven. of course in the end yes the haven guy is in the centre.
Exactly this.
ChrisD1 said:
btw what's with the russian names and the whole easter europe vibe about haven? since putin happened i don't think that's very wise to go "russian" and it kinda paints haven with a bad color in my eyes :/
+10000000 (I'm from Ukraine). Would like to keep a Ukrainian/Polish/Hungarian vibe though.
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