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Storm-Giant
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
On the Other Side!
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posted May 28, 2015 07:12 PM |
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Dave_Jame said:
The lack of news is terible:
Don't tell me they don't have common trash to feed us with, that will be public with the beta.
Nice timing lol
Skills presentation: Fire & Prime Magic
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EnergyZ
Legendary Hero
President of MM Wiki
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posted May 28, 2015 07:12 PM |
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https://mmh7.ubi.com/en/blog/post/view/skills-fire-prime-magic
No lack of articles here.
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Steyn
Supreme Hero
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posted May 28, 2015 08:02 PM |
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 they combined haste and slow into one spell: time control.
I like the new effect of implosion. Don't like so much that it is now an expert spell. On top of that time stasis looks rather underwhelming for a master spell.
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted May 28, 2015 08:08 PM |
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LizardWarrior
Honorable
Legendary Hero
the reckoning is at hand
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posted May 28, 2015 08:08 PM |
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Wtf!? There's no Animate Dead? It wasn't in neither earth, dark or prime. Also is there any resurrection spell? Maybe they combined them
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Gryphs
Supreme Hero
The Clever Title
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posted May 28, 2015 08:12 PM |
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It might have something to do with necromancy.
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Dies_Irae
Supreme Hero
with the perfect plan
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posted May 28, 2015 08:38 PM |
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Stevie said:
Steyn said:
they combined haste and slow into one spell: time control.
Next thing they'll do is combine healing and damage spells.
Wait...
I must say, the fact that "Heal", be it from the spell or the Vestals in H6, could damage Demons, Inferno or Undead is something I quite enjoy. Light vs "the Dark" aka unholy beings if you will. One can decide to sacrifice a healing turn to damage the enemy instead of healing one's own troops. Of course, against large armies this won't really work, since the amount of deaths just won't tip the balance at that point.
I like Fire Magic as it is presented to us here. The icons need some work, the H6 ones were more appealing to me than the ones we see here. This goes especially for Fire Bolt/Ball/Wall and Armageddon. Compare them to H6's icons:
Firebolt, Fireball, Firestorm
Inferno, Armageddon.
And here's what I have to say about Fire Magic.
On to Prime, then. Haven't written down my thoughts about that yet.
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icefield
Adventuring Hero
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posted May 28, 2015 08:44 PM |
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Instant reinforcements: this was in H5, but I don't like this feature. Park the hero next to a mana well, no strategy needed. Troop transport should be part of strategy that has to be planned. And there are caravans and forts ... such a spell could fit as an expert summoning spell (for wizards and demons), but at novice level ...?
Time control: that's initiative, not speed. And, no mass haste/slow (just area effect). Good move.
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Dies_Irae
Supreme Hero
with the perfect plan
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posted May 28, 2015 08:57 PM |
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icefield said:
Instant reinforcements: this was in H5, but I don't like this feature. Park the hero next to a mana well, no strategy needed.
That's why it's better if the spell also reduces x% of the hero's movement points instead of just his/her mana.
Hello Prime, my old friend...
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Minastir
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted May 28, 2015 09:31 PM |
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Dies_Irae said:
I like Fire Magic as it is presented to us here. The icons need some work, the H6 ones were more appealing to me than the ones we see here. This goes especially for Fire Bolt/Ball/Wall and Armageddon. Compare them to H6's icons:
Honestly about 70% of spells icons look worse than in HVI which is shocking, and I don't understand why they changed spells icons from the alpha stage of the game development:
Now it doesn't look like spells icons more like skills icons, it's a spellbook it should be more majestic, now it looks like some iPhone interface
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alcibiades
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
of Gold Dragons
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posted May 28, 2015 09:35 PM |
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Is the grandmaster Prime Magic skill the worst skill in the entire game - of all skill levels - or do I miss something completely?
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What will happen now?
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted May 28, 2015 09:56 PM |
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Nope, it's as bad as it sounds.
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Steyn
Supreme Hero
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posted May 28, 2015 09:56 PM |
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Well, it allows for free summoning of your fresh troops on day one...
I guess it depends on the bonus in mana regeneration. If having this skill means you will effectively recharge all your mana every day it would be quite nice right?
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted May 28, 2015 10:14 PM |
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verriker
Honorable
Legendary Hero
We don't need another 'eroes
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posted May 28, 2015 10:33 PM |
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Elvin said:
Nope, it's as bad as it sounds.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted May 28, 2015 10:35 PM |
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I don't know how expensive high tier magic is going to be but chances are it will be useless in certain maps. I dislike ability effects that depend on map properties like mana locations/artifacts or amount of gold/resources.
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Micutz
Hired Hero
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posted May 29, 2015 12:39 AM |
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I do not see the fortes of the magic system, nor can I bring myself to like it for any other reason. It seems to me that it will end up being one of the major downsides of the game.
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The_Green_Drag
Supreme Hero
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posted May 29, 2015 12:50 AM |
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Can't wait to pick up that sweet prime magic ultimate with my crazy brutal might hero: the blademage. 
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Avonu
Responsible
Supreme Hero
Embracing light and darkness
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posted May 29, 2015 01:01 PM |
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Edited by Avonu at 13:06, 29 May 2015.
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Elvin said:
Nope, it's as bad as it sounds.
Actually Shadow of Dread is Dark Magic GM ability and its description is from Regeneration ability.
The real Prime Magic GM ability is New Moon - "Summons Bella and Edward". 
The_Green_Drag said:
Can't wait to pick up that sweet prime magic ultimate with my crazy brutal might hero: the blademage.
Magic heroes can't learn Warcries Master level (or skill at all?) and Might heroes can't learn Magic Schools Master level.
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Pipiru piru piru pipiru pi!
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted May 29, 2015 01:21 PM |
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This MEGA THREAD is pages long: 
