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Avonu
Avonu


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Embracing light and darkness
posted July 15, 2015 07:57 PM

Puzzle map is very nice... but this is not enough to save game, if game mechanic is broken (read: copied from previous title).
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alexine
alexine


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posted July 15, 2015 08:09 PM

Looks like this moondoe/sundeer is main celebrity of heroes 7, it even got the main spot on sylvan stained glass ! I wonder if it will be on the game cover ?

Other than that, I like it, the picture looks very nice I loved stained glasses in Heroes 5. One of those article that made me happy but yes, I agree the digging should return and not making it a spell
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posted July 15, 2015 08:11 PM

The game needs more spell casting because firstly, with 7 magic schools, you do want to get use of a larger spell pool (otherwise you'd pick just one school, which I imagine will be the case most of the time), and secondly as a measure to counterbalance Might which holds an advantage from passives.

They're restricting casting more.

I don't know what to say. I mean, it wasn't enough that they discarded the ATB system of Heroes 5 in favor of a fixed turn system which is way less flexible, but now they just have to come up with this convoluted snow to make Magic even worse.

I want to believe but it's pretty damn hard when you see these type of design decisions being made.
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alexine
alexine


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posted July 15, 2015 08:17 PM

Wait what will happen if I dont get this spell in my magic guild ? I cant find grail ?
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Gryphs
Gryphs


Supreme Hero
The Clever Title
posted July 15, 2015 08:19 PM

I imagine it is like the adventure map spells in H5 the same ones are present for everyone every time.
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Storm-Giant
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posted July 15, 2015 08:20 PM
Edited by Storm-Giant at 20:24, 15 Jul 2015.

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Upon visiting the first obelisk, the Hero will be granted a new Adventure map spell: Reveal Treasure.

So now heroes must visit Obelisks on their own before being able to dig. This looks like it will make very confusing to know which obelisk has been visited and which not, by your heroes

Edit: as it can be seen in the picture below, you are given the number of found obelisk and wether that hero has visited that obelisk or not.



So there's no need for keeping track of which hero visited each obelisk. Nevermind this comment.
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Dies_Irae
Dies_Irae


Supreme Hero
with fabulous eyes
posted July 15, 2015 08:29 PM

alexine said:
Wait what will happen if I dont get this spell in my magic guild ? I cant find grail ?


"Upon visiting the first obelisk, the Hero will be granted a new Adventure map spell: Reveal Treasure."

No need to worry about that .
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kiryu133
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Hero of Order
Highly illogical
posted July 15, 2015 08:42 PM

I don't have a problem with it being a spell. It doesn't really change anything other than what menu you find the button. I feel all heroes should be able to dig no matter if they've visited an obelisk or not however.
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TD
TD


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posted July 15, 2015 08:43 PM

Not really a fan of the "reveal treasure"-spell as it just seems change for sake of change(+ dig felt much more natural to me). Before you pressed adventure-maps "dig" or keyboard "D" to dig, now you gotta open spell-book and click it from there every time till you find the spot. It just seems extra hassle to me. I think you can add spells for quick-cast to the side though, but not 100% sure as I didn't try it on beta. Another smaller complaint is the name of the spell; casting "reveal treasure" would make me think it's spell to pinpoint the tear location on the screen rather than actually dig(the spell simply sounds stupid to me in my head for the action) so I'm hoping they will revert to simple "dig" or at least rename the spell to something more logical..

I wonder if there can be several different type/color of obelisks in h7?
Also for the puzzles, I really hope the puzzle doesn't always clear out in same order placing "x" to the middle. Might not even have same picture placement of the area for all players hopefully(by this I mean for player 1 Tear might be in NE corner while to player 2 picture it might be middle and for player 3 at East in middle, all having same location, but the screen being of different position/location, just having common area as the Tear location).
For the Tear of Asha; I hope it is or can be set to have random location instead of simply pre-set one(which you will know after the first time always)

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EnergyZ
EnergyZ


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President of MM Wiki
posted July 15, 2015 09:07 PM

Reveal Treasure... and the only treasure I have is a solid tear from a goddess.

Why not expanding this spell? I mean it is just limited to find the Grail *ahem* Tear of Asha, but there certainly could be other treasures. Reminding you of H4: artifacts, cash, resources, maybe even a long-forgotten scroll that gives you a few ten-thousand points of experience. That couldn't hurt to add to the gameplay.

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verriker
verriker


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Jonny Come Sometime
posted July 15, 2015 09:13 PM

EnergyZ said:
Why not expanding this spell? I mean it is just limited to find the Grail *ahem* Tear of Asha, but there certainly could be other treasures. Reminding you of H4: artifacts, cash, resources, maybe even a long-forgotten scroll that gives you a few ten-thousand points of experience. That couldn't hurt to add to the gameplay.


the vision of Heroes 7 is not to add anything to the gameplay, it's to try and be a greatest hits of Heroes and match Heroes 3 (which it won't lol)
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Wellplay
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Famous Hero
Poland Stronk
posted July 15, 2015 10:18 PM

verriker said:
EnergyZ said:
Why not expanding this spell? I mean it is just limited to find the Grail *ahem* Tear of Asha, but there certainly could be other treasures. Reminding you of H4: artifacts, cash, resources, maybe even a long-forgotten scroll that gives you a few ten-thousand points of experience. That couldn't hurt to add to the gameplay.


the vision of Heroes 7 is not to add anything to the gameplay, it's to try and be a greatest hits of Heroes and match Heroes 3 (which it won't lol)


Let's guess why that is...

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PROJ
PROJ


Known Hero
posted July 15, 2015 10:19 PM

aiming for homm 3 is about as low a bar as you can go

but seriously homm 7 basically can't be worse than homm 3 mechanics-wise.  you'd have to intentionally sabotage a game to make it that bad

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LizardWarrior
LizardWarrior


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Age of erwins is over
posted July 15, 2015 10:21 PM

PROJ said:
aiming for homm 3 is about as low a bar as you can go

but seriously homm 7 basically can't be worse than homm 3 mechanics-wise.  you'd have to intentionally sabotage a game to make it that bad



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Kimarous
Kimarous


Supreme Hero
posted July 15, 2015 10:42 PM

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The Tears of Asha are highly superior forms of Dragon Crystals. Ten times larger, and a hundred times more powerful than the dragonblood crystals, these extremely rare gems were shed by Asha to end the Wars of Creation and cleanse the corruption and devastation that the forces of Chaos had brought to her creation. Their powers are nothing short of miraculous, permanently affecting a whole city or region, and capable of bending the laws of Life, Death and Fate themselves.

Wait a sec... so the Tears of Asha aren't actually Asha's tears, but Asha's crystallized blood? Am I reading that right?

And if I am reading that right... does Urgash have a yet-unrevealed equivalent?

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frostymuaddib
frostymuaddib


Supreme Hero
By the power of Vivendi!
posted July 15, 2015 10:50 PM

PROJ said:
aiming for homm 3 is about as low a bar as you can go

but seriously homm 7 basically can't be worse than homm 3 mechanics-wise.  you'd have to intentionally sabotage a game to make it that bad


I guess they shoud've aimed at the best game of all time: Heroes 6.

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verriker
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Jonny Come Sometime
posted July 15, 2015 10:54 PM

Wellplay said:
Let's guess why that is...


probably because Heroes 6 salted the earth (and the budget) for this game, also obviously because Team Erwin lacks talent and vision lol
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LizardWarrior
LizardWarrior


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Age of erwins is over
posted July 15, 2015 10:55 PM

Kimarous said:

Wait a sec... so the Tears of Asha aren't actually Asha's tears, but Asha's crystallized blood? Am I reading that right?

And if I am reading that right... does Urgash have a yet-unrevealed equivalent?


People used Urgash's Brazier in faction contests for some time, but nothing at official level.

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Storm-Giant
Storm-Giant


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Undefeatable Hero
On the Other Side!
posted July 15, 2015 11:22 PM

PROJ said:
aiming for homm 3 is about as low a bar as you can go

but seriously homm 7 basically can't be worse than homm 3 mechanics-wise.  you'd have to intentionally sabotage a game to make it that bad

I like this one. Can we keep him?
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EnergyZ
EnergyZ


Legendary Hero
President of MM Wiki
posted July 15, 2015 11:24 PM

PROJ said:
aiming for homm 3 is about as low a bar as you can go

but seriously homm 7 basically can't be worse than homm 3 mechanics-wise.  you'd have to intentionally sabotage a game to make it that bad


What the hell is this guy even talking about? Point makes zero sense.

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