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castiel_789
Adventuring Hero
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posted November 26, 2014 05:50 AM |
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Skeleton Small, Melee, Undead, Skeletal, Dark servitude (If attack would kill more than 50% of the stack the damage become 15% 1st attack - 25% 2nd - 3rd normal dmg / can only activate 2 time in one combat)
Mummy Small, Melee, Undead, Aging (Lower max hp cap and defense on attack)
Wraith Small, Flyer, Undead, incorporeal, Anguish (Inflict sorrow on attack)
Vampire Small, Teleport, Undead, no enemy retaliation, Life drain, Fade
Lich Small, Shooter, Undead, Dark calling (Creatures killed by lich become skeleton), Death dominion (Link to any undead stack each time it is raised the lich get empowered / activated)
Death knight Large, Melee, Undead, Demise (Deal damage based on moral & number of stack ; max bad moral = double damage) Not a centaur but the horseman should be on a horse and one sword (Death knight 2)
Bone dragon Large, Flyer, Skeletal, Undead, Scourge (inflict curse and weakness around it), Corrosive breath (activated deal damage over time to a stack depending on the number of curse placed on it)
Fate spinner Large, Melee, Undead, like H6 or different not sure yet
Warfare
Returned ;
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castiel_789
Adventuring Hero
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posted November 26, 2014 09:27 AM |
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Here a thought I saw that on many forum the bone dragon is often kept out of the Necro line up
I wonder is it because it was considered weak in some game compared to other champion or is the creature has a concept not appealing ?
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Zombi_Wizzard
Famous Hero
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posted November 26, 2014 10:11 AM |
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i see s lot of people liking fate spinners ... idk - i never realy liked them that much ... sure they were not awfull but still - bone dragon and death knight seem better choices to me.
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Maurice
Hero of Order
Part of the furniture
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posted November 26, 2014 10:27 AM |
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castiel_789 said:
Here a thought I saw that on many forum the bone dragon is often kept out of the Necro line up
I wonder is it because it was considered weak in some game compared to other champion or is the creature has a concept not appealing ?
Bone Dragons have been in previous installments, but the concept never really worked well. They were underpowered, compared to other creatures of similar tier.
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kiryu133
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
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posted November 26, 2014 12:12 PM |
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Maurice said:
Bone Dragons have been in previous installments, but the concept never really worked well. They were underpowered, compared to other creatures of similar tier.
always made sense too me. If your armies are built out of dead remains wouldn't you find the biggest, baddest thing around and turn it into a warmachine? dragons are the biggest, baddest thing around, so naturally they get risen as soldiers! it just makes sense!
that said, they are a bit dull, which is why i'm still saying a big giant made from whatever remains are at hand is the best way to go, as it incorporates the "crazy-scientist" mood of putting something random together without turning it into something dull, a.k.a bone dragons. they still make complete sense, is just dragons are very burnt out after h5.
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Avirosb
Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
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posted November 26, 2014 03:43 PM |
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Edited by Avirosb at 16:12, 26 Nov 2014.
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But undead composite creatures are also done to - pardon me - death, albeit maybe not so much in Heroes.
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moonshade
Known Hero
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posted November 26, 2014 04:03 PM |
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To Castiel_789...
very good classical line-up!
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kiryu133
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
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posted November 26, 2014 05:15 PM |
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Avirosb said:
But undead composite creatures are also done to - pardon me - death, albeit maybe not so much in Heroes.
pretty much, though what dead creatures haven't been done to death? 
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Avonu
Responsible
Supreme Hero
Embracing light and darkness
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posted November 26, 2014 05:52 PM |
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A lot of not so known worldwide (ex. from regional mythologies) but these "common" ones (zombie, lich, vampire, etc.)? Well, you know the answer.
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"Details are everything."
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Zombi_Wizzard
Famous Hero
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posted November 26, 2014 06:10 PM |
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Here is my idea - some things must be new, but old classics must not be left out... so here i go (sorry for no pictures or stuff....)
core:
- skeleton: the ususal... what'd you expect?
- Phantom: like ghost but more ... basicaly like ghost - has ability to heal itself by draining mana.
- Zombie: yes zombie ! - strong but slow - more like in H3 in terms of looks than silly H5 - ability to feast on corpses to move faster, best core creature
Elite:
- Vampire: can transform into bat to fly, but otherwise he walks, drinks blood to heal, no enemy retaliation, petrifying attack. Yes he's op - but that's what vampire is ... have you read Dracula? - basicaly - it's the "champion" creature of elite tier (like Ubi said some creatures will be)
- Mummy: caster - shoots black clouds of badness to hurt multiple enemies - can cast curse or revives dead things (for the duration of battle) - replacement for lich if you will
- Skeletal unicorn: yes - long ago elves had it, now they have deer, and unicorns have been brought back to life by the good necromancers. decreases morale of adjected units - also blind.
Champion:
- Death Knight: inspires terror (chance that enemies flee), can kill any other undead to replenish his own numbers once per combat, any dark spell cast upon him has 100% chance to not effect him, but is reflected on random living enemy stack.
- Reaper - black robe, skeletal head, wields scyte (a terrible ineffective weapon btw.) - teleports freely on battlefield, maximum reach, steals souls - for every enemy he kills hero and mummy (if in army) gain mana. Marked for death (he selects enemy stack, that stack will lose some hp every time it moves, attacks or retaliates, last untill end of battle, or untill last reaper dies, cannot be dispelled or moved to other stack untill stack dies. If all units in effected stack are dead, he can choose another enemy living stack.
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Steyn
Supreme Hero
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posted November 26, 2014 07:56 PM |
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Zombi_Wizzard said:
- Skeletal unicorn
Lol
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Zombi_Wizzard
Famous Hero
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posted November 26, 2014 09:55 PM |
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Steyn said:
Zombi_Wizzard said:
- Skeletal unicorn
Lol
so you think it's ridiculous do you? idnk it sounds prety cool to me - it's good then that i didn't include upgraded version, which would be Shadow Unicorn - now that's ridiculous LOL! .... wait .... yes ... 
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Storm-Giant
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
On the Other Side!
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posted November 26, 2014 10:21 PM |
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Leave Unicorns to Sylvan, please...
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LizardWarrior
Honorable
Legendary Hero
the reckoning is at hand
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posted November 26, 2014 10:25 PM |
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Dark Unicorn - Dungeon
Skeletal Unicorn - Necropolis
Fire Unicorn - Inferno
Brutal Unicorn - Stronghold
Holy Unicorn - Haven
Magic Unicorn - Academy
Unicorn Unicorn(?) - Sylvan
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castiel_789
Adventuring Hero
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posted November 26, 2014 10:40 PM |
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I dunno I liked the idea of a creature weaving or spinning your fate, maybe just better executed however I would not bet against it's exclusion in the coming game
I'm not sure we want to discard & reinvent this faction so much. The classic line up for necro where very memorable to me personally
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castiel_789
Adventuring Hero
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posted November 26, 2014 10:43 PM |
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LizardWarrior said:
Dark Unicorn - Dungeon
Skeletal Unicorn - Necropolis
Fire Unicorn - Inferno
Brutal Unicorn - Stronghold
Holy Unicorn - Haven
Magic Unicorn - Academy
Unicorn Unicorn(?) - Sylvan
didn't expect that one  joyful tears
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Zombi_Wizzard
Famous Hero
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posted November 27, 2014 12:02 AM |
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Storm-Giant said:
Leave Unicorns to Sylvan, please...
No Sylvan has deer.
In H1 if i remember correctly (it's a long time ago since i played it so you must excuse me if im mistaken) Fortress had Griffin, Gargoyle and Centaur together ... so from my point of wiev - anything goes. Besided didn't Ubi itself suggest shadow unicorn for dungeon? and we also got nightmare in H5 wich looked a lot like .... yes unicorn on fire...
And to be hornest, im not to passionate about unicorns (ill much more miss griffins) - and i fully admit it was silly idea on my side to put unicorns in Necro (post was more of a joke) - but just think ... if you revive a dragon ... why not some other magical creature?
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cliff_nest
Hired Hero
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posted November 27, 2014 01:01 AM |
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Zombi_Wizzard said:
No Sylvan has deer.
Some of us are still licking their wound no need to throw pepper in there. plz it hurts
Zombi_Wizzard said:
so from my point of wiev - anything goes.
I don't see why every time we have a new heroes we need to reinvent the wheel some creature made the franchise for death's sake. Why would we change skeletal lich to mummy. I'm not close minded I like some of ure ability on ghoul, like ure reaper a little OP tough. On the other hand some thing just don't feel right has your next sentence suggest.
Zombi_Wizzard said:
and i fully admit it was silly idea on my side to put unicorns in Necro (post was more of a joke)
Skeletal unicorn seriously  .
Zombi_Wizzard said:
Here is my idea - some things must be new, but old classics must not be left out
I don't mind changing ghost, ghoul even if it hurts and we have extra champion spot (minor changes) but leaving lich and death knight thats a no go for me
If they introduce change in other faction like dungeon, haven, sylvan, academy to some point we die hard fans deserve at least one or two classical faction don't u think ?
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MattII
Legendary Hero
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posted November 27, 2014 01:15 AM |
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Edited by MattII at 02:39, 27 Nov 2014.
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Zombi_Wizzard said:
In H1 if i remember correctly (it's a long time ago since i played it so you must excuse me if im mistaken) Fortress had Griffin, Gargoyle and Centaur together
No, that was Dungeon
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GenyaArikado
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
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posted November 27, 2014 02:21 AM |
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Id rather have something like the Namtaru as a champion. If not a spoider lady some sort of woman representing the Hecate Sisters.
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