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LizardWarrior
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the reckoning is at hand
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posted February 05, 2015 04:26 PM |
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So... where are the spiders?
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Sandro400
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Shadow of Death
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posted February 05, 2015 05:04 PM |
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Stevie, Lizard... Galaad's response is missing I guess 
I would like to quote myself:
Sandro400 said:
Just a little piece of trivia.
No offence, but you overreacted guys. I just picked some facts regarding Ashan-Necro and Spider relationship, giving no personal opinions - pure facts. Now, Lizard, why you mentioned colors again? I said nothing about them Your argument just seems out of place. And yeah, spiders themselves even in Ashan vary in color, it's the venom of the namtarus that's greenish. And yeah x2, like it or not, "toxic green" became quite popular for illustrating Undead. Facts, nothing more.
Now, Stevie, I'm sure you know that loom itself is often associated with how spider weaves his web. Both spiders and loom "weave" things. That's where association lies, and for that spiders were associated with the Goddess. Associated, not linked, bonded etc.
Btw, if you're going to argue about spiders' association with loom, go read Arachne's myth.
And Lizard, her statue image doesn't prove anything, Zeus was not sculpted with eagle, Artemis - with deer etc 
Do I even need to say that you guys "jumped" on me with no real reason? 
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted February 05, 2015 05:06 PM |
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Sandro400 said:
Galaad's response is missing I guess
Yeah sorry I'm too busy trolling the official blog 
I'll get back to you eventually, I need to go trough some reading first.
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War-overlord
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Undefeatable Hero
Presidente of Isla del Tropico
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posted February 05, 2015 05:07 PM |
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Sandro400 said:
Do I even need to say that you guys "jumped" on me with no real reason?
They have reason enough. Not hating Necropolis is blasphemy, as you well know.
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LizardWarrior
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the reckoning is at hand
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posted February 05, 2015 05:17 PM |
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Sandro400 said:
And Lizard, her statue image doesn't prove anything, Zeus was not sculpted with eagle, Artemis - with deer etc
Well, I can find plenty of statues with Zeus and eagles, but no one of Neith and spiders 
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Sandro400
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Shadow of Death
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posted February 05, 2015 05:20 PM |
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Galaad said:
Yeah sorry I'm too busy trolling the official blog
I'll get back to you eventually, I need to go trough some reading first.
Oh please sorry for disturbing you, bon appetit!
Don't bother, there's even no point to argue
War-overlord said:
Sandro400 said:
Do I even need to say that you guys "jumped" on me with no real reason?
They have reason enough. Not hating Necropolis is blasphemy, as you well know.
My bad, I forgot that  Oh deae, what a blasphemer I am...
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Stevie
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posted February 05, 2015 05:26 PM |
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Edited by Stevie at 17:29, 05 Feb 2015.
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@Sandro400, Arachne is not an Egyptian myth. Endless associations between myths would eventually get you anywhere, including Aztec myth, with 0 relevance.
You said that spiders were associated with Neith in Ancient Egypt. Here's the direct quote:
Sandro400 said:
Last but not least, spiders were associated with Anicent Egypt goddess Neith in her aspect of weaver of destiny.
Prove it.
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Sandro400
Promising
Supreme Hero
Shadow of Death
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posted February 05, 2015 05:32 PM |
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LizardWarrior said:
Well, I can find plenty of statues with Zeus and eagles, but no one of Neith and spiders
You missed the point. It's spiders who are associated with her, not her being asscoiated with spiders. And spiders are associated with her because of weaving.
P.S.: on my behalf I apologize for not adding the word "always" - "Zeus is not always sculpted with eagle" etc.
@Stevie, huh, again... Even if Arachne's not an Egyptian myth, it still shows a connection is obvious. Btw, if you follow Ishtar's myths, you'll find pecilair name Namtar...
Oh, I forgot. Here we go.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_depictions_of_spiders
http://www.greenprophet.com/2014/01/ancient-egyptian-spider-art-king/
P.S.: I think you're not well-versed if mythology if you state "Endless associations between myths would eventually get you anywhere", because myth unusual similarities is the thing that troubles many mythologist minds
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LizardWarrior
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Legendary Hero
the reckoning is at hand
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posted February 05, 2015 05:42 PM |
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The human is 70% water.
Water forms lakes.
Lakes can be big.
Dead Sea is a big lake.
Dead Sea has a lot of salt.
Salt contains Chlor
Chlor is a main ingredient in bleach
Bleach is poisonous
Humans are poisonous 
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GenyaArikado
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
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posted February 05, 2015 05:49 PM |
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Stevie said:
Prove it.
According to Wikipedia (which according to you is a perfect source )
In Ancient Egypt, the spider was associated with the goddess Neith in her aspect as spinner and weaver of destiny, this link continuing later through the Babylonian Ishtar and the Greek Athena*
* Cooper, J. C. (1992). Symbolic and Mythological Animals. London: Aquarian Press. pp. 214–15. ISBN 1-85538-118-4.
Now Neith was only of the earliest egyptian gods and she became a goddess of a lot of things for that reason. IIRC she was even an hermaphrodite goddess in some deciptions so while there was an association with spiders, she wasnt actually depicted like one
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Zombi_Wizzard
Famous Hero
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posted February 05, 2015 06:21 PM |
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@Sandro
I'm not convinced. I belive Stevie is right on this one. And also, even if Neith could somehow be connected with spiders, and even if I used to play WoW myself, I still don't think of spider when I hear the word undead. Nor do I think Undead when I see spider.
Imo if I had any word in the lore, I would put spiders more into Dungeon or even Sylvan. When I think of classic Giant spider, I envision it in forest or cave enviorment.
And also poison ... so? Poison = Dracula? Mummy ... maybe? more disease or plague imo.
However I belive I figured it out.
Necropolis should be scary.
Erwan is afraid of spiders.
Which means, put them in
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Maurice
Hero of Order
Part of the furniture
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posted February 05, 2015 08:01 PM |
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LizardWarrior said:
The human is 70% water.
Water forms lakes.
Lakes can be big.
Dead Sea is a big lake.
Dead Sea has a lot of salt.
Salt contains Chlor
Chlor is a main ingredient in bleach
Bleach is poisonous
Humans are poisonous
Only for 70%
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Sandro400
Promising
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Shadow of Death
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posted February 05, 2015 08:24 PM |
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Zombi_Wizzard said:
I'm not convinced.
Oh please, not you too. I just pointed out at connections between Ashan-Necro and spiders. I wasn't convincing anybody - that's a waste of time nowadays 
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Zombi_Wizzard
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posted February 05, 2015 08:28 PM |
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@Sandro
Fair enough. But I still want my undead dolphins. 
Edit:
Humans are 65% water, which is awsome
Dolphins live in water
Dolphins are also awsome
Humans can die
Dolphins can die
Undead humans are awsome
Undead dolphins are double awsome!
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mvassilev
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posted February 05, 2015 10:09 PM |
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Call me crazy, but I think the town screen looks okay. Not great, but better than H4's or H5's.
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RMZ1989
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posted February 05, 2015 10:20 PM |
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mvassilev said:
Call me crazy, but I think the town screen looks okay. Not great, but better than H4's or H5's.
You are crazy and you should stop posting.
Now seriously, you can say better than H4 or H6, but H5 Necro town screen was awesome.
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Avirosb
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No longer on vacation
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posted February 05, 2015 10:22 PM |
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RMZ1989 said:
Now seriously, you can say better than H4 or H6, but H5 Necro town screen was awesome.
No it wasn't.
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Kimarous
Supreme Hero
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posted February 05, 2015 10:24 PM |
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RMZ1989 said:
mvassilev said:
Call me crazy, but I think the town screen looks okay. Not great, but better than H4's or H5's.
You are crazy and you should stop posting.
Now seriously, you can say better than H4 or H6, but H5 Necro town screen was awesome.
You are crazy and you should stop posting.
Now seriously, you can say the townscreens in H5 were awesome, but the Necro town looked like half of it was missing and the perspective was weird if you didn't look at it from the front or the fly-by camera.
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Minion
Legendary Hero
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posted February 05, 2015 10:30 PM |
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Spiders are great in fantasy game, I am starting to love them more the more obnoxious whine I hear about them
#lovemylife
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Salamandre
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Wog refugee
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posted February 05, 2015 11:04 PM |
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