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Gnomes2169
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posted August 15, 2014 04:32 PM

I... I don't think it's a contest, unfortunately. I liked how Fortress played in heroes 5, but the lineup is just so... dwarf. It's too dwarf, really. And if there is one thing I've learned about Ubi, it's to never trust their ability to innovate. I would rather not have the same dwarf riding on a bear, or doubled in size, or what have you.

Though magma dragons were cool. And I definitely would not mind seeing them as a neutral unit.
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posted August 15, 2014 04:33 PM
Edited by War-overlord at 16:33, 15 Aug 2014.

Stevie said:
The only reason you're all so very compassionate with Fortress it's because the 1v1 vote is really emphasizing the faction. Imo, if it were a 2 out of 5 vote, no one would've even thought of Fortress as a real contestant. You might not agree with me but that's how I see it.

The only faction that'd stop me from voting for Fortress is Stronghold. I've said it many times already over the last few days, Fortress is my 2nd favorite.

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And let's be honest. They're doing the right thing. Giving the community the option to chose will very much boost the sales when the game's out. More people will just buy it for their favorite faction. And if this will get the enough funds, we'll see the other factions with expansions.

That would only be the case if the race wasn't effectively fixed from the start.
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posted August 15, 2014 04:34 PM

Stevie said:
The only reason you're all so very compassionate with Fortress it's because the 1v1 vote is really emphasizing the faction. Imo, if it were a 2 out of 5 vote, no one would've even thought of Fortress as a real contestant. You might not agree with me but that's how I see it.

I'd vote Fortress over Inferno, Dungeon and Sanctuary. I'm sick of Inferno, I don't want to know of the 50 shades of purple palette, and Sanctuary didn't look great in H6.
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posted August 15, 2014 04:35 PM
Edited by OmegaDestroyer at 16:39, 15 Aug 2014.

Stevie said:

And let's be honest. They're doing the right thing. Giving the community the option to chose will very much boost the sales when the game's out. More people will just buy it for their favorite faction. And if this will get the enough funds, we'll see the other factions with expansions.


This contest will not boost any sales.  All it does is give the community, which Ubisoft has done a great deal to alienate in the past, the illusion they are contributing to the development of the game.  I also highly doubt that anyone will buy the game for one faction.  Fans will buy the game regardless.  I'm sure there are a few people who may buy the game because they find a faction interesting, but I sincerely doubt the inclusion of the Slyvan or Fortress will have a significant impact on sales.
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posted August 15, 2014 04:35 PM
Edited by Stevie at 16:39, 15 Aug 2014.

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The only faction that'd stop me from voting for Fortress is Stronghold. I've said it many times already over the last few days, Fortress is my 2nd favorite.


You're in the minority. For me Fortress is like 7th or 8th from the 9 of em.

@OD: I'm pretty sure insiders don't consider it an illusion. It happened with MMX and it's happening now. And it WILL boost sales just because people feel involved and their opinions appreciated, if nothing else. If this is all an illusion, I don't really know, but I highly doubt it.

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Steyn
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posted August 15, 2014 04:40 PM

A more logical reason is that, if we complain afterwards about fortress and sanctuary/inferno/dungeon not being in the game, it would be our "fault" for not choosing those factions. I.e. it will lower the amount of negative feedback on release a bit.

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alcibiades
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posted August 15, 2014 04:46 PM

Jiriki9 said:
The problem (and meanness) of this vote was to put Fortress vs. Sylvan. The result was very predictable because evne if one likes fortress, it is really probable they like sylvan more for a whole bunch of reasons.

Yes, I agree, I would have liked to see Fortress pitched against Inferno because these factions are pretty similar (lots of fire etc.). Of course, the downside of that would have been that Sylvan might risk a loss against Dungeon if that was chosen of the other match-up, or alternatively I'd have to choose between Sylvan vs. Sanctuary which would be even worse as they are my top 2 choices (Fortress being #3).
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fuChris
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posted August 15, 2014 04:57 PM

Voted Fortress. Hate them. But they deserve another chance. Perhaps if they rethink the rune system and only have 3 dwarfs as creatures and NO IDIOTIC BEAR RIRER they might even be enjoyable. Hell I might even begin to like the Thane.

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Jiriki9
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posted August 15, 2014 04:59 PM

I think the thought behind it may be that Fortress/Sylvan is the faction that sits Ivans council and the next decision shall be between two evil factions.

I however do think they could have done more interesting votes, and still I appreciate that they at least make the community feel involved. I hope - but dare not expect - one will be able to vote for more things than just factions in future (why not units? why not gameplay aspects?)

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Elvin
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posted August 15, 2014 05:02 PM
Edited by Elvin at 17:02, 15 Aug 2014.

The thanes have been promoted to fire giants santas. Something about the souls of the departed dwarves being reborn as a giant through a volcano explosion, being the chosen or Arkath or some such.
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Kronos1000
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posted August 15, 2014 05:14 PM

I would have liked to see both. I'd put both of them ahead of Dungeon and Inferno (if Sanctuary were to be included the choice would be much harder for me). I ended up voting for Fortress in the end, simply because I think they deserve another shot, but it was a close call.

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fuChris
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posted August 15, 2014 05:16 PM

Elvin said:
The thanes have been promoted to fire giants santas. Something about the souls of the departed dwarves being reborn as a giant through a volcano explosion, being the chosen or Arkath or some such.

So scientology basically...

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OmegaDestroyer
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posted August 15, 2014 05:20 PM

Pretty much.
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RMZ1989
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posted August 15, 2014 05:25 PM

I voted for Fortress as I said in another thread because I like them more than Elves and I think that they deserve another chance and would really like to see how they are done with H6/H7 graphics.

But on the other hand, if Treants are going to be one of the champions(and they probably will be) I don't have the problems with Elves at all and would like to play with those champions.

Always liked Treants/Dendroids.
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posted August 15, 2014 05:38 PM

Maybe I would voted for Fortress, but not in a situation when Sylvan was absent from Heroes 6. I really miss this faction, even with it being so cliche. I just don't think a Heroes game is complete without Unicorns, Elven Archers and Gold Dragons

Besides the vote on the site shows that Sylvan will win for sure. I find it a bit strange that we will see no Inferno in the near future (cause I think Dungeon is a sure-win). I mean, an Ubi Heroes game without Demons?

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RMZ1989
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posted August 15, 2014 05:53 PM

blob2 said:
Maybe I would voted for Fortress, but not in a situation when Sylvan was absent from Heroes 6. I really miss this faction, even with it being so cliche. I just don't think a Heroes game is complete without Unicorns, Elven Archers and Gold Dragons

Besides the vote on the site shows that Sylvan will win for sure. I find it a bit strange that we will see no Inferno in the near future (cause I think Dungeon is a sure-win). I mean, an Ubi Heroes game without Demons?

Oh don't worry, I will make over 100 accounts just to make sure that Inferno will win. Just wait and see!

About Heroes game being complete, I don't think that you will see Gold Dragons in any heroes game in the future.

And what is not cliche in the Heroes games? ^^
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flonembourg
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posted August 15, 2014 05:53 PM

I vote Sylvan by default if you ask me.

Sylvan (nature) in Heroes 4 was my favourite faction, and yes i like zoo factions even more when there is mythicals creatures like griffins, phenix and fairie dragon.
On the other side i was not fond of sylvans in H5, why? i just don't know (may be too much wood needed to build anything).


But the real problem in that vote is that we all remember that Dwarves suck in H5 not because is a non-interesting factions but because this faction was just boring to SEE, the concept of rune is OK but the line up... Only the level 7 unit was not a dwarf... Why?

And the real problem in that vote is that we absolutely know nothing about sylvan and Dwarves line-up and gameplay.

If only they (UBI) shared with us their intended creatures and we saw cool-creatures like valkyries.....May be the Dwarwes could have a chance.

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Elvin
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posted August 15, 2014 05:57 PM

I'm sure they intend to tell you more in the near future. There is a reason this vote will take one month
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JeremiahEmo
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posted August 15, 2014 06:01 PM

No. Dungeon shouldn't have been included since they will win any faction pitted against them anyway. They are best an expansion faction.
Best matchup would have been:
Sylvan vs Inferno
Sanctuary vs Fortress



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kayna
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posted August 15, 2014 06:04 PM

Stevie said:
Already voted Sylvan. Having one more defensive faction at the expense of the only agile faction among the current so far makes no sense to me.


This. Haven, undead, both slow turtling factions, academy will probably be turtle oriented as well considering they are mostly magicians, stronghold is the only agile, offensive faction, and while they are fun, they lacked a certain something in heroes 6, they were just too straightfoward.

I hope sylvan and inferno will win votes, and in expansions, I'm hoping for dungeon and or sanctuary.

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